I can confirm that he says these things happened (although not during a service, simply in a church building).

I am so shocked I can't comment further at the moment. The priest appears traumatized, and expresses anger and disbelief that such things could happen in an ostensibly Christian nation.




[edit to add:]

The alleged shooting/raping did not take place in his church, but in another area. He does say a number of church buildings have been destroyed in this way.

[edit on 16/8/08 by pause4thought]

Wonder how hard it would've been for Putin to put in his own ex-KGB men dressed as Georgians to do this?

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Part of me says that is not totally impossible. On the other hand if they used a man of the cloth, or someone simply dressed as a priest, and it was discovered to be a hoax it would considerably compound the target audience's anger at having been deceived. Also, it is probably quite easy for Georgians to confirm or deny whether this man is who he says he is, as he names specific churches in specific places, making a hoax unlikely.

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Not talking about Putin's ex-KGB impersonating the priest, but the supposed child rapists.

Reeks of propaganda... Next they will claim they are actually eating babies.

Allegations like these should require some level of journalistic investigation before it is published.

At least when the US was accused of Iraqi prisoner abuse there was evidence to back it up.

If this is actually happening, there is no worse atrocity. If not then it is about as low as the propagandists can possibly go.

Even if this happened, it's obviously the work of 1 or 2 crazy/sick Russian soldiers who happen to be pedophiles who are taking advantage of their situation. They are sickos but it's obviously not an order they are carrying out from the Kremlin. I'm pretty sure if their fellow soldiers caught them they'd be shot on site, just on general priciple.

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Originally posted by harrytuttle
Even if this happened, it's obviously the work of 1 or 2 crazy/sick Russian soldiers who happen to be pedophiles who are taking advantage of their situation...

It is? I think you mean Georgian soldiers there...I hope. Because that's what we're talking about here, NOT Russian soldiers. Just wanna be clear on that.

Whether this report is true, I don't know. But the raping of small children does happen in war zones. If the reports of Georgian troops engaging in ethnic cleansing are true, why wouldn't some of them do this as well?

Originally posted by TrueAmerican

Originally posted by harrytuttle
Even if this happened, it's obviously the work of 1 or 2 crazy/sick Russian soldiers who happen to be pedophiles who are taking advantage of their situation...

It is? I think you mean Georgian soldiers there...I hope. Because that's what we're talking about here, NOT Russian soldiers. Just wanna be clear on that.

Yes, I meant the soldiers accused of rape - which I should have said Georgian soldiers, not Russian. But the point remains - I seriously doubt they are ordering their soldiers to rape 3 year olds - it's probably just a couple sicko pedophiles taking advantage of the war situation. They should be shot on sight.

To anyone who supports war in any way, shape, or form (supporting troops, supporting the Iraq/Afghanistan invasions, supporting the Iran sanctions, etc.) I hope you all read this and understand what happens in war. This is not an isolated incident, despicable acts like this run rampant in any war zone (and around the world for that matter), and you cannot blame any GROUP for this (Before anyone drops anything race related). This is the act of individuals. Those rapists, those FREAKS, are someone's brother, father, husband, or son.

By allowing a war to take place in the first place you allow chaos to ensue and invite these possibilities. With all the confusion and mess who notices one soldier duck into a building with a little girl under his arm? Even if they did how many people have the guts to go in after an armed soldier who hates you for your race and would not hesitate to shoot you?

The military should exist only so far as to arrest, castrate, torture, and shoot these perverts. I would be glad to see such scum removed from the planet.

How disturbing is the thought that most of us are still thinking in terms of boundaries and races rather than as human beings? How disgusting is it that an individual would subject another human being to this?
These are the questions we need to be asking; NOT "Did it really happen?" I have news for you. YES IT HAPPENS EVERY DAY ALL AROUND THE GLOBE! This one incident is a drop in the ocean my friends.

EDITTED TO ADD: I apologize for my rant. I will not remove it though as it does express how I feel about this. Rape makes me quiver with anger, with disgust, and with hatred. Well most violent acts do.

[edit on 19/8/2008 by Scurvy]