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reply posted on 16-8-2008 @ 05:36 PM by Essan
reply to post by mopusvindictus



Because only now are there humans capable of making fame and money from promoting such ideas - and a lot more humans stupid enough to fall for such stories. Obvious, innit


reply posted on 16-8-2008 @ 05:49 PM by mystiq
Why it might explode and why it could kill everything on the surface of the earth? Hmmm lets see:
www.rinf.com...

NASA has crashed a plutonium-carrying RTG into a similar atmosphere before which may have resulted in an explosion the size of Earth's diameter near the equator of Jupiter as observed by many and imaged by Olivier Meeckers of Belgium on October 19, 2003. Space.com carried the story “Mystery Spot on Jupiter Baffles Astronomers.”5 The craft, Galileo, entered into Jupiter near its equator very close to where the “mystery spot” later developed (Diagram A). It is possible that if the explosion were larger or deeper, Jupiter could have reached ignition. The fact remains that a very suspicious bruise appeared on Jupiter 28 days after Galileo made its plunge there. It is important to mention that it is rare for a comet or meteor to impact Jupiter at the equator so it is unlikely this was the cause....

It has already been well demonstrated that a fission reaction can be sufficient to ignite a fusion reaction (i.e. the Hydrogen Bomb). A fission reaction generates high enough temperatures (high enough equals about 35 million degrees Kelvin) to reach the critical point required for a fusion reaction. This, however, does not necessarily mean a fusion reaction will occur. The right elements (various isotopes of hydrogen) must be present or created, so it is assumed. We do know Saturn is mostly composed of the same elements as the Sun, hydrogen and helium, but we are unsure if fusion and fission reactions would work exactly the same on Saturn as on Earth. However, conventional belief says Deuterium and Tritium (isotopes of Hydrogen) are necessary to accomplish fusion. Both are likely present deeper into Saturn. What is important to remember is the tremendous pressures inside Saturn are the key here when talking about implosion.

We do know that implosion is what will occur to the fuel cylinders at some point in the impact. If the final implosion collapse of a cylinder happens suddenly enough, it could simulate an explosive-initiated implosion, the method normally used in a plutonium nuclear bomb. As mentioned earlier there is prior imaged evidence of an explosion from Galileo's plutonium on Jupiter. An analysis by Richard C. Hoagland “Did NASA Accidentally ‘Nuke' Jupiter?” states the same concerning a nuclear reaction on Jupiter: “It is this unique, dark ‘carbon' signature – appearing as a dark black ‘splotch' in the highest levels of the Jovian cloud belts which has given this entire, incredible scenario away ….”


and

arcticbeacon.com...

This is a documentation and study of the feasibility of creating a sustainable fusion reaction
from an initial fission reaction on Saturn caused by a significant quantity of Plutonium-238 being
inserted deep into the atmosphere. A fusion-ignited Saturn-sun would be the key to creating a
human-habitable area on Titan. This report is the result of my intensive research on this subject
since late 2002. I could not be so confident in my assertions if it were not for the additional key
research of Jacco van der Worp, a Netherlands physicist, and former NASA Consultant, Richard
C. Hoagland....

I first stumbled onto the reality of this project while reading a famous
conspiracy book entitled “Behold A Pale Horse” by William Cooper, former U.S. Naval Security
Briefing Team member....

It was stated by William Cooper, (former United States Naval Intelligence
briefing member in the early 70's) that an elite group known as the “JASON Group”, or certain members
of, had been hired full time to work on turning Jupiter into a small star. The “JASON Group” is
comprised of the greatest science minds in the world.
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The Richard L. Garwin reports mentioned
earlier further prove that the JASON Group does indeed exist...

Saturn is much like Jupiter in composition and is actually a safer and more realistic target. Titan may be
the big the big prize, being one of the few bodies in the solar system to potentially contain a significant
amount of water and an atmosphere that could be very terraformable. Titan could be thawed out
substantially with Saturn as its sun...

More importantly though, Earth could receive a nasty shower
of hot hydrogen a few weeks later, the real reason for concern. ...

After a few weeks of 24/7 talk of the implications, causes, effects, etc. of the new
star, Earth begins to get showered with the ejecta from Saturn. The shower lasts 2 to 3 weeks and
includes some heavier elements towards the end. This directly or indirectly kills millions of people and
animals on Earth - a great boost for population control. Those “in the know” hide out in underground
cities and bunkers for several weeks to several months until Earth's ozone shell has recovered


Hey thats just for Saturn. Their first attempt may be working after all, and Jupiter is by far considered the most dangerous.


reply posted on 16-8-2008 @ 05:57 PM by dampnickers
reply to post by mystiq



My word!

Are you bereft of comon sense?

Jupiter is far too small to produce the energies required ignite and become a star.

The planet produces its own internal heat, as does the earth. If we take your 'theory' as correct that would suggest that the Earth will explode any day now, as we see 'signs' of the pending explosion all around us...

Earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, and weather storms are all signs that the Earth is under great pressures internally and is about to explode.

Jupiter, if it were to suddenly become a star, producing both light and heat energy in all wavelengths of the EM spectrum (like our sun), would need to be thousands of times more massive.

Therefore, unless Jupiter is about to be supplied with trillions of tonnes of hydrogen and helium, there will be no second sun in our solar system.

Unless Jupiter is about to crash into a brown dwarf star that we don't know about, there will be no second sun....

Do not even dare to go on with the Nibiru nonesense either. That is a waste of time too...

This is a simple matter of "case closed".

It is bunkum.


reply posted on 16-8-2008 @ 06:00 PM by dampnickers
reply to post by Peepers



The secret underground bunkers have been built because when the sun stops its 'quiet phase' it will re-enter a particularyl violent phase.

This is when life on Earth may well be affected, although hopefully not severely.

The other reason that the bunkers have been built is just in case the proxy war in Georgia gets out of hand and some fool launches nuclear weapons... the 'leaders' need somewhere to hide.



reply posted on 16-8-2008 @ 08:19 PM by ngchunter
Originally posted by mystiq
Why it might explode and why it could kill everything on the surface of the earth? Hmmm lets see:
www.rinf.com...

NASA has crashed a plutonium-carrying RTG into a similar atmosphere before which may have resulted in an explosion the size of Earth's diameter


I'm sorry, I stopped reading here. It's wrong, completely wrong. The RTGs on galileo could not have created an explosion the size of Earth's diameter. The plutonium 239 on board was nowhere near critical mass, let alone enough total mass to create that kind of explosion.

[edit on 16-8-2008 by ngchunter]


reply posted on 16-8-2008 @ 08:40 PM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by poet1b



poet1b,,,,your memory must not be very good because Earth is around 93 million miles from the sun and Jupiter is around 483 million miles from the sun. I think you said Earth is about 93,000 ,,,remember that the moon is 250,000,,,,,,,,,,,



reply posted on 17-8-2008 @ 02:04 AM by Skipper1975
reply to post by mystiq



dont worry brother.....there are higher powers that will not let TPTW try some BS move like blowing up the planet.


were heading to 5d...TPTW are/were trying to stop this....that is not possible..

spread love/light & truth for the win!

it's all good in the hood
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