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reply posted on 16-8-2008 @ 05:32 PM by Phage
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Originally posted by raoulduke666
Sounds highly unlikely but doesn't this sounds like almost exactly what happens in the movie "2010: The Year We Make Contact"?
Not almost...exactly.
The problem is that Jupiter is not even close to massive enough to "ignite" on its own.
In 2010 there were a gazillion monoliths doing something (importing material? increasing density) to increase the mass to the point where fusion could
begin.
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reply posted on 16-8-2008 @ 05:36 PM by Essan
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Because only now are there humans capable of making fame and money from promoting such ideas - and a lot more humans stupid enough to fall for such
stories. Obvious, innit
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reply posted on 16-8-2008 @ 05:47 PM by dampnickers
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Originally posted by poet1b
Being that we are around 93,000 miles from the sun, and 390,000 miles from Jupiter,
According to your figures that means that the sun orbits the Earth INSIDE the orbit of the moon, which is roughly 250,000 miles away from Earth...
It also means that Jupiter would only take three weeks to reach if we were to send a manned team up there!
I knew all along that NASA were talking out of their arses by suggesting that the Earth is a 'tiny sphere in a vast universe'.... I knew all along
that the Earth is the centre of the universe. I just knew it!
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reply posted on 16-8-2008 @ 05:49 PM by mystiq
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Why it might explode and why it could kill everything on the surface of the earth? Hmmm lets see:
www.rinf.com...
NASA has crashed a plutonium-carrying RTG into a similar atmosphere before which may have resulted in an explosion the size of Earth's diameter near
the equator of Jupiter as observed by many and imaged by Olivier Meeckers of Belgium on October 19, 2003. Space.com carried the story “Mystery
Spot on Jupiter Baffles Astronomers.”5 The craft, Galileo, entered into Jupiter near its equator very close to where the “mystery spot” later
developed (Diagram A). It is possible that if the explosion were larger or deeper, Jupiter could have reached ignition. The fact remains that a very
suspicious bruise appeared on Jupiter 28 days after Galileo made its plunge there. It is important to mention that it is rare for a comet or meteor
to impact Jupiter at the equator so it is unlikely this was the cause....
It has already been well demonstrated that a fission reaction can be sufficient to ignite a fusion reaction (i.e. the Hydrogen Bomb). A fission
reaction generates high enough temperatures (high enough equals about 35 million degrees Kelvin) to reach the critical point required for a fusion
reaction. This, however, does not necessarily mean a fusion reaction will occur. The right elements (various isotopes of hydrogen) must be present or
created, so it is assumed. We do know Saturn is mostly composed of the same elements as the Sun, hydrogen and helium, but we are unsure if fusion and
fission reactions would work exactly the same on Saturn as on Earth. However, conventional belief says Deuterium and Tritium (isotopes of Hydrogen)
are necessary to accomplish fusion. Both are likely present deeper into Saturn. What is important to remember is the tremendous pressures inside
Saturn are the key here when talking about implosion.
We do know that implosion is what will occur to the fuel cylinders at some point in the impact. If the final implosion collapse of a cylinder
happens suddenly enough, it could simulate an explosive-initiated implosion, the method normally used in a plutonium nuclear bomb. As mentioned
earlier there is prior imaged evidence of an explosion from Galileo's plutonium on Jupiter. An analysis by Richard C. Hoagland “Did NASA
Accidentally ‘Nuke' Jupiter?” states the same concerning a nuclear reaction on Jupiter: “It is this unique, dark ‘carbon' signature –
appearing as a dark black ‘splotch' in the highest levels of the Jovian cloud belts which has given this entire, incredible scenario away
….”
and
arcticbeacon.com...
This is a documentation and study of the feasibility of creating a sustainable fusion reaction
from an initial fission reaction on Saturn caused by a significant quantity of Plutonium-238 being
inserted deep into the atmosphere. A fusion-ignited Saturn-sun would be the key to creating a
human-habitable area on Titan. This report is the result of my intensive research on this subject
since late 2002. I could not be so confident in my assertions if it were not for the additional key
research of Jacco van der Worp, a Netherlands physicist, and former NASA Consultant, Richard
C. Hoagland....
I first stumbled onto the reality of this project while reading a famous
conspiracy book entitled “Behold A Pale Horse” by William Cooper, former U.S. Naval Security
Briefing Team member....
It was stated by William Cooper, (former United States Naval Intelligence
briefing member in the early 70's) that an elite group known as the “JASON Group”, or certain members
of, had been hired full time to work on turning Jupiter into a small star. The “JASON Group” is
comprised of the greatest science minds in the world.
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The Richard L. Garwin reports mentioned
earlier further prove that the JASON Group does indeed exist...
Saturn is much like Jupiter in composition and is actually a safer and more realistic target. Titan may be
the big the big prize, being one of the few bodies in the solar system to potentially contain a significant
amount of water and an atmosphere that could be very terraformable. Titan could be thawed out
substantially with Saturn as its sun...
More importantly though, Earth could receive a nasty shower
of hot hydrogen a few weeks later, the real reason for concern. ...
After a few weeks of 24/7 talk of the implications, causes, effects, etc. of the new
star, Earth begins to get showered with the ejecta from Saturn. The shower lasts 2 to 3 weeks and
includes some heavier elements towards the end. This directly or indirectly kills millions of people and
animals on Earth - a great boost for population control. Those “in the know” hide out in underground
cities and bunkers for several weeks to several months until Earth's ozone shell has recovered
Hey thats just for Saturn. Their first attempt may be working after all, and Jupiter is by far considered the most dangerous.
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reply posted on 16-8-2008 @ 05:55 PM by Peepers
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I wonder if this is why secret underground containments have been built for survivalist in the know. The rest of us have to take it on our own and
maybe get fried.
Of course we could get lucky and the fragmentation of the exploding protostar debry would occur when the earth is behind the sun when the debry wave
is blocked.
Oh well, if cassini detonates saturn in august/september and we see a bright light followed by a debry shock wave, its been nice knowing ya's.
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reply posted on 16-8-2008 @ 05:57 PM by mystiq
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The most important thing is now its time to seriously locate and publish the entrance, exit, and shafts connected to every single underground
facility, because if and when this sh**t goes down, there is no way any righteous person is going to allow the worst murderers and traitors imaginable
to survive their own manmind catastrophe, while we all go down. No, if it happens, they get to share the happy happy joy joy moment with us all!
I'm going to start researching everything I can now. I know about Cold Lake, Alberta for one in Canada.
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reply posted on 16-8-2008 @ 05:57 PM by dampnickers
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My word!
Are you bereft of comon sense?
Jupiter is far too small to produce the energies required ignite and become a star.
The planet produces its own internal heat, as does the earth. If we take your 'theory' as correct that would suggest that the Earth will explode any
day now, as we see 'signs' of the pending explosion all around us...
Earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, and weather storms are all signs that the Earth is under great pressures internally and is about to explode.
Jupiter, if it were to suddenly become a star, producing both light and heat energy in all wavelengths of the EM spectrum (like our sun), would need
to be thousands of times more massive.
Therefore, unless Jupiter is about to be supplied with trillions of tonnes of hydrogen and helium, there will be no second sun in our solar system.
Unless Jupiter is about to crash into a brown dwarf star that we don't know about, there will be no second sun....
Do not even dare to go on with the Nibiru nonesense either. That is a waste of time too...
This is a simple matter of "case closed".
It is bunkum.
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reply posted on 16-8-2008 @ 06:00 PM by dampnickers
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The secret underground bunkers have been built because when the sun stops its 'quiet phase' it will re-enter a particularyl violent phase.
This is when life on Earth may well be affected, although hopefully not severely.
The other reason that the bunkers have been built is just in case the proxy war in Georgia gets out of hand and some fool launches nuclear weapons...
the 'leaders' need somewhere to hide.
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reply posted on 16-8-2008 @ 06:08 PM by mystiq
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I'm not bereft. There is evidence that a whole lot of cabal are. Too small? For what? To become their Luciferic Star? Maybe, perhaps Saturn too.
But when they crashed all that platonium into Jupiter a huge red spot appeared. And now after all these years, and with a second attempt at their
stupidity in the plan with Saturn, with incredibly more platonium, someone thinks Jupiter is reaching a critical state? Call me crazy if you wish,
should anything happen to either Jupiter or Saturn and send death and destruction towards earth, which will take a couple weeks to arrive or less,
there deluxe underground cities will not be safe for them any longer. 6 billion people had better be pledged enough to their children to ensure
that.
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reply posted on 16-8-2008 @ 07:38 PM by Skipper1975
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Hi all..
Our brothers & sisters from the cosmos did plan to ignite Jupiter the next time it moves behind the sun..i'm not sure if it's still on
it depends on the controllers of this planet aka.NWO,illuma-naughty,etc.
if they decide to care about humanity or step down..then things will go a different way.
here's some info on the subject
nesara.insights2.org...
Stasis
luisprada.com...
there are many reasons to want NESARA...
i wish more people would help push it....life would be much better for Humanity.
www.nesara.us...
www.white-knights911.net...
much love to you all
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reply posted on 16-8-2008 @ 08:06 PM by Entreri
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reply posted on 16-8-2008 @ 08:19 PM by ngchunter
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Originally posted by mystiq
Why it might explode and why it could kill everything on the surface of the earth? Hmmm lets see:
www.rinf.com...
NASA has crashed a plutonium-carrying RTG into a similar atmosphere before which may have resulted in an explosion the size of Earth's diameter
I'm sorry, I stopped reading here. It's wrong, completely wrong. The RTGs on galileo could not have created an explosion the size of Earth's
diameter. The plutonium 239 on board was nowhere near critical mass, let alone enough total mass to create that kind of explosion.
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reply posted on 16-8-2008 @ 08:22 PM by ngchunter
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Originally posted by mystiq
But when they crashed all that platonium into Jupiter a huge red spot appeared.
YEARS later. YEARS! Nothing happened because of the RTGs, the little red spots aren't even in the same cloud band as where galileo crashed, so I
fail to see a connection, either temporally or locally. Shoemaker-levy 9 made huge explosions when it impacted jupiter and even left marks for weeks
afterwards, yet jupiter STILL didn't ignite into a star; it doesn't have enough mass to sustain fusion.
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reply posted on 16-8-2008 @ 08:40 PM by Anonymous ATS
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poet1b,,,,your memory must not be very good because Earth is around 93 million miles from the sun and Jupiter is around 483 million miles from the
sun. I think you said Earth is about 93,000 ,,,remember that the moon is 250,000,,,,,,,,,,, 
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reply posted on 16-8-2008 @ 09:34 PM by Anonymous ATS
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reply posted on 16-8-2008 @ 09:42 PM by wolf241e
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Just lie the rest of you, I'm not putting any faith in that article.
Interesting concept though.
It makes me wonder what the gravitational forces would do the Earth. Gotta be huge and devestating.
Remember that wacky thred about the alien attack fleet hanging around Saturn. Maybr they shot something into Jupiter to make it unstable to wipe us
out.
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reply posted on 16-8-2008 @ 11:41 PM by mystiq
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I think you are misunderstanding my whole point here. Project Lucifer is a concept floating around for quite some time now. William Cooper, the
author of "Behold A Pale Horse" predicted his murder within a short while of its publication. And indeed he died in mysterious circumstances. So,
I believe it, obviously. What I am saying however is this: if Juptier suddenly blows up, please don't sit around wondering why! The reason why is
clear. And the murderers are going underground. So I really hope you intend to insure they don't survive this any more any one else. Thats the
point. If it does explode and all that debris and gas is heading our way, its time to storm their underground facilities in huge numbers.
As for positive nordic or pleiadian help, or the GFL. Well, it is possible I believe. Also, Alex Collier says we have the dna of 22 different off
planet races, so I'm actually wondering, since we have so many bloodlines and parent races, what kind of intergalactic laws exist in 22 different
groups, including their confederations could that protect us from MC, lies and manipulation, depopulation attempts, including now project lucifer
rearing its ugly head once more, and in enslavement of our planet. There must be in existence laws that we should be privy to understanding, and
applying for their remedy.
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reply posted on 17-8-2008 @ 02:04 AM by Skipper1975
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dont worry brother.....there are higher powers that will not let TPTW try some BS move like blowing up the planet.
were heading to 5d...TPTW are/were trying to stop this....that is not possible..
spread love/light & truth for the win!
it's all good in the hood
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reply posted on 17-8-2008 @ 02:23 AM by altered_states
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Originally posted by MatrixBaller04
Meh...I still read about it before, and it wasn't from a tabloid site. There's a real possibility of something like that happening though
yep anything is possible in our universe but I still thought the title should of been :IS JUPITER GOING TO EXPOLDE because there is no real evidence
from a credible source indicating that there are possibilities that jupiter could explode
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