Originally posted by justamomma
Originally posted by Scorched EarthFeminism is just another way of neutering males.
True. It also has taken away alot of the pleasure that some of us women would have liked to experience in its fullness.
Uhm, it was the feminists (of the early 1900's), you know, who first focused on the idea that women were sensual and sexual creatures and who spoke
out against rape and the "lie there and take it" mentality of the Victorian era. I don't know if you read up on the history of women's rights
movements and what life was like for women (in the 1970's it was still hard for me as a divorced woman to get a credit card and to open a bank
account without my father's co-signature. I have had car dealers refuse to sell me a car without a man's approval... and this is within the past 50
And it was much worse in the 1900's. If you haven't read up on what life was like for the non-wealthy woman (particularly a divorcee) or a
non-white woman, you might like to take a read about it sometime. Read up on what happened to American Indian girls (like my grandmother) and
schooling... or the women who were nurses and doctors during the Civil War.
I am feminine, but I am not feminist and just wanna say thanks *very* sarcastically to all those before me and here now that continue to push
this idiotic view that women can do whatever a man can do.
You're quite welcome. The next time you see bestseller book by a woman, realize that before the 1970's, most books written by women were rejected
simply because they were written by women (many romance novels were written by men using pseudonyms.) If you vote (I do, regularly) then you can
thank the early feminists.
If you have a credit card, you can thank the feminists of the 1960s (I've been through the "you can't have a credit card because you're a woman"
You can have your own IRA. Blame us feminists for that (because early in my work career it wasn't possible.)
If you see a woman who's a gynecologist who delivers babies and does family practice -- again, blame the feminists (the first women who tried to
practice as doctors had rocks thrown at them and went through many other unpleasantries.)
Women who are dentists or dental assistants or who work as opticians -- blame feminists.
Women who are lawyers -- blame feminists.
Women who are astronauts... blame the feminists and you can blame us for still trying to force NASA and other agencies to give women equal
opportunities as pilots and astronauts.
Whenver you see women of mixed races together, working as equals -- yeah, we did that. Heap the blame on me, too, because (truly) I was there and I
was one of the ones working to bring it about.
That and widespread birth control for women (I worked in family planning clinics, helping get info about condoms and birth control pills and syphillis
Even if I could (which I can't), I wouldn't want to.. I like being a woman, being the nurturer, and the support system for those I love. I
don't have any desire to lead and make the tough decisions that concern my family's future... I just am not emotionally tough enough to not second
guess myself (I have no choice but to do so though at the moment... but it does come with negative effects)
Which is fine by the feminists (in case you didn't know.) My dear daughter-in-law is a homemaker and homeschooler and I do love her to pieces.
That's what she wants to do, and I'm for it 100%. No feminist would think of forcing such a dear woman into a role she hated.
On the other hand, I would never want to see her living under the same restrictions as the women did in the 1950's, when it was fairly common for men
to "smack around" a woman if she didn't mind (watch some of the old comedies and old movies and you'll see that theme of "it's funny when the
uppity woman gets out of hand and the man punches her to show her who's boss.") I wouldn't like to see you living that way, either.
But that's because I'm a feminist. You might be appalled at how many women of the 1950's thought it was okay for the guy to slap them around if he
felt like it.