Between Asleep and Awake: Do you hear voices?, page 3


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reply posted on 16-8-2008 @ 11:39 PM by mr-lizard
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I've started a thread discussing sleep paralysis and how quite possibly the emotional state can affect the 'feeling' of the lucid event.

I've mentioned my experience of hearing speed up voices, almost like i'm listening to a conversation on a slightly untuned radio. Also the awareness of the amount of static and electricity in a room and sometimes it's like i can hear conversations from other times and places...

I too was worried that i'm going crazy, but then you mentioned '___' and its release during dream states.... Is that true? I had no real idea that '___' was the chemical responsible, although i was aware that it was hormonal/biological...

Although I have read quite a lot about it, something to do with pineal gland which is your forehead or third eye. Apparantly when that is 'awakened' people can start affecting reality in some form or other...

So maybe it's the same things that mystics and seers and enlightened folk used to talk about, when they were in tune with nature..

Maybe another term for being awakened is 'consciously activating the '___' gland', altering our perception of reality, therefore seeing the manifestations of thought and electrostatic energy.

Maybe that's what all this talk of aura's consist of. The aura is essentially the electrostatic field, a different 'shade' or 'tuning' can be noticed. We as people all emit and receive energy, in the form of vibrations and without sounding all pseudo-spiritual here, let me be the first to say i'm an atheist, who strongly believes the universe consists of harmonic patterns, represented in many forms....

With the aid of a natural yet complex chemical build up, our patterns of perception change, possibly (and i'm speaking on pure speculation based on personal research and experience) enhancing our ability to receive the invisible signals...

An example being sound frequencies, with the human range of hearing ranging 22hz to 22khz, with the lower end being bass frequencies (harder to diffuse, these frequencies can pass through walls and solid items as they have a slower, deeper vibration), whilst the higher end is the sharper, higher frequencies which dissipate faster as they consist of faster, condensed waves.
What my point is, even below 22hz even though we cannot physically 'hear' the lower end frequencies we can still feel them (just go to any psytrance party and you'll see what i mean - lol) and above our range of hearing, such as dog whistles, they still have obvious effects...

Then with the effects of tones and timbre, the physical and mental effects of sounds in certain keys and harmony, how a tune can make you feel nostalgic or melancholic or happy or angry etc...

Now imagine those frequencies just out of ear shot and audible range, playing certain tones (again affecting our mood) but we are totally unaware of, essentialy unconsciously changing to those secret tones and frequencies...

Maybe, just maybe our natural aura's and electostatic fields are the things that respond to those inaudible tones, and maybe just maybe its the unconscious power of the mind that creates those changes.

The more people are depressed and unarmed and scared and trapped in the 'flock like' tone, then they are easier to control, such is the power of psychological warfare, and any individuals acting on their own thoughts or creative tones are punished by the forces that be, effectively stopping the creative being from altering the mood and also strengthening the horrible overtones of control, by setting an example to any other would be free thinkers / free souls.

Hence why we have fashion, hence why individuality in a western sense is often frowned upon....

Hence the reason this naturally occuring chemical is illegal.

Also I believe dark things are created through the power of mass consciousness, such as the media and television programming and the like.

Like i mentioned in my thread, with my first real experience of Sleep paralysis, i believe i enhanced the negativity of the first experience by feeding it with my scared vibes...

This is my theory, I think about it a lot....

* - On a side note, does anyone know if schizophrenia can possibly be caused by either A) a lack of '___' or B) An overdose of '___'.... It would be interesting to find out i think.

Peace

MR - L



reply posted on 17-8-2008 @ 12:55 AM by Anonymous ATS
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this also happens to me regularly, also during the initial hours prior to awaking properly in the morning. Whilst it is occuring I feel like I am comprehending the information, however during waking moments I can never recall the content, other times it seems like some stream of conciousness or at times I get the impression I am being "read" large tracts of information from other sources, almost like a radio report. These "radio" episodes always give me the lasting impression I am being fed information that seems to have a context I am not aware of, as if it is part of a greater whole that I am not privy to. Strange - I'm glad its not just me then!


reply posted on 17-8-2008 @ 02:58 AM by lee anoma
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Can you go into more detail about what comes AFTER the voices?
I'm curious because sometimes there is a bit more to it.

- Lee


reply posted on 17-8-2008 @ 04:33 AM by Anonymous ATS
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i do the exact same thing all my life along with some other strange things that cannot be explained with words, but yes, thousands of conversations and can sometimes hit a sentance that i can understand, but i can do it all the time as long as there is complete silence and i just concentrate on it.


reply posted on 17-8-2008 @ 05:04 AM by lee anoma
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Thanks for the response and for bringing up the valid point of Hypnagogic Imagery. I have heard of this and I suppose it could be simply written off as being Hypnagogic Imagery but there are times when some of the voices are speaking an entirely different language from my own that I do not know how to speak yet seem real. For example, I've heard Spanish and even what sounded like Japanese being spoken fluently.

That is what is strange to me. I couldn't pretend to speak either of those languages on my best day.

- Lee


reply posted on 17-8-2008 @ 05:49 AM by rikgrimsby
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this is what is happening.i have had this and once when i was about 8ish i saw a evil looking person(like a messed up clown) in my room.and i also hear voices shouting and phones ringing.


reply posted on 17-8-2008 @ 05:58 AM by JPhish
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use to happen to me all the time when i was a kid . . . it hasn't happened to me for a very long time though. Perhaps i was sick when i was a little boy, or maybe i've just learned to subconsciously suppress whatever it was i was hearing. I think i know what you're talking about.


reply posted on 17-8-2008 @ 05:59 AM by misswanderer31
Perhaps what you are hearing are voices from the spirit world. For some that believe in life after death, the spirit world is near to us, though we cannot see it.
Perhaps sometimes we can "tune into" the spirit realm and hear those that have passed on. Sometimes they can be random people you hear, that speak different languages, and sometimes you will hear people you know. Sometimes you may even have your own personal revelation about your future, or something that could happen to you and is shown to you as a warning. Perhaps you may even have a guide helping you along the way.

Once I heard my grandfather speaking, and he has been dead now for many years. I could not see him but I heard him speak, but could not clearly make out what he said, it was like he was speaking to someone else that was with him. I was fully awake when this happened.

Another time I heard a male voice speaking in Russian. I have been learning russian for the past year, but I heard him clearly though I could not understand what he said (damn it!) . I was also fully awake when this happened.

I have seen spirit's too. But very rarely as I think they know it scares the crap outta me. Once I saw a woman walk into my kitchen, and I was so shocked I ran out of the house with my bag. I left my keys to the house in my bedroom and I had locked myself outside... I had to walk to a friends place so they could take me to work.

I also have had "visions" or what menguard calls holodeck projections where you see and hear people depending on the situation, its like when your vision goes hazy white and in the middle you see people, and are shown things, I won't go into it but it's like your brain is being plugged into some other realm. (It's pretty trippy)
I am fully awake when this happens and am not in any dream like state. It starts with a sensation that travels up from your waist to your neck, like a wave of shivers. I don't have them often, and they are quite difficult to understand but I am now going to write down all that I see and hear, so maybe one day I can make some sort of sense out of it all.

As for my sanity. I am the most down to earth, sanest person I know. I don't do drugs and had not had alcohol before hand. Why does it happen? I don't have a clue. Perhaps for some it is a gift, and for others a curse.

You might even want to check out menguards post... ""Higher light answers for questions" I found it quite interesting.
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