Between Asleep and Awake: Do you hear voices?, page 1


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Topic started on 16-8-2008 @ 04:52 AM by lee anoma
Hello,

There is a state between being asleep and being awake that when I enter into it I begin hearing a multitude of people talking to one another. I mean it is a lot of random pieces of conversation and I know they aren't coming from me. I stated trying to hold the moment to hear what was being said but it's not easy because in that state I am slipping off to being fully asleep. At this point also...there is a low pitch hum in my ears.

This has only been happening within the last six years.

The voices are not familiar. There are tons of them. Male and female. Layered on each other. It sounds like people having conversations with one another. Some of the voices are in other languages. Only a few times have one of the voices addressed me but it was amid the sea of voice. Once was a warning the other a verbal attack. Both were very quick, as if the speaker had little time to direct something at me. Once I was listening and I heard someone say "Pick another language" so that I couldn't understand what was being said. That surprised me.

The scarier part is hearing a language you didn't know existed. That language has a strange echo effect embedded in it.

When this happens it is almost as if I am tapping into a phone line, or some sort of vast stream of consciousness. Like logging onto the internet to get information. The thing is that I feel some of those talking are aware of me too.

There is a lot more to it than I am adding, but for now I just want to know if anyone else is going through this?

- Lee



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reply posted on 16-8-2008 @ 06:00 AM by v01i0
Hello,

To answer the question of the topic: Yes, I do and I also can produce images. Why? I am not sure, but I have a hunch.

I'll explain this best way I can, and I don't need you to accept it as a fact because I myself do not know whether it is fact or not; this is not my idea, but something that has been suggested to me when consulting the dead. This needs little bit background info however, so I'll begin:

In traditional alchemy, there exists a way to enter another realms, or planes of existence. Especially the Astral plane is now under our scrutiny. To enter these different planes of existence, one need to be silent, doing nothing and mediate oneself to be close of the dreamstate, between asleep and awake, so that you can hold on your consciousness, but yet access the unconsciousness. Then think how vivid are some dreams? You can actually smell and feel in dreams if they are lively enough! So it is not surprising, that when one is at this 'twilight zone', he'll begin to hear, feel and see things. Furthermore, if the consciousness can be preserved well enough (takes practice), one can create images and so on, just like one wants to. He then animates his own toughtforms in Astral Plane. It is no way reality - everything in Astral is false to some extent, but they may become reality if you master the magick well enough.

So the Astral Plane really is an imaginary place, where all kind of ideologies and ideas takes their pre-form. It is our imagination, animated by our parts of brain that can form images in dreamstate - but these parts are accessed and controlled consciously in meditative state.

But because there is something known as collective unconsciousness, one adept enough can learn how to access this part of this 'unreal' plane. Forgive me when I say 'unreal', for I don't mean that it does not exist. It does, but not in physical worlds before they get form in material (i.e mother). So the seed really is an imaginary thought in Astral plane, consciouss act or not. And when the father casts his seed into the mother, a form is starting to take place and it becomes 'real'. So, collective unconsciousness is in a way more objective than our personal one - it is shared by all the people, creatures and stuff alike. It withelds the archetypes of our global mind, and I think we are speaking of legendary Gaia when we talk about collective unconsciousness. There the forms that affect whole sphere of our existence takes place before they appear in the material level.

I feel like I should stop now, so I'll do that. Best regards,

PS. If you like read more about what I tried to explain above, please visit my thread:
Explaining the occult - the interconscious and astral.

[edit on 16-8-2008 by v01i0]


reply posted on 16-8-2008 @ 06:46 AM by Tapped In
reply to post by lee anoma



I have heard the same thing for years (on and off), but also see faces that go along with it. At first I tried my hardest to understand what they were saying, but now I just let them be. If they have a pertinent message they usually convey it in a dream.

My suggestion to you is to let it go. Accept it and let it move on to the next stage where you can interact. This is the fun part.


reply posted on 16-8-2008 @ 01:21 PM by v01i0
reply to post by star_gazer



I've had similar experiences. I even once asked the name of one whom I received answers from, first he told that it isn't important but after some persuasion he told me some odd name which I was not able to remember afterwards. Anyway, I once read from somewhere about these techniques, and that source mentioned that one method to get into this connection is by asking questions! I see it has worked for somebody else as well
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