Georgia*Russia*Poland Missile Defense Shield ATS Thread!

Oh My

"Today the situation is much more serious than before August 2008....[A] possible recurrence of war will not be limited to the Caucasus.

"The new President of the United States did not bring about any crucial changes in relation to Georgia, but having a dominant role in NATO he still insists on Georgia's soonest joining of
the Alliance. If it happens, the world would face a more serious threat than the crises of the Cold War.

"Under the new realities, Georgia's war against South Ossetia may easily turn into NATO's war against Russia. This would be a third world war." (Irina Kadzhaev, South Ossetia political scientist, South Ossetia Information Agency, April 2009

Global Research



Just across the Caspian Sea high strangeness and diplomatic unusual contact and courting is taking place over the last couple of months to:
Kazakhstan - The Most Important Country on Earth?

Edit to add ATs thread Pentagon Preparing for War with Russia

Not good, not good at all.

Elf

[edit on 17-5-2009 by MischeviousElf]

Oh and here we go...

TBILISI, Georgia (AP) — NATO said Monday that Georgia will eventually become a member — reaffirming its support for the country with which it is hosting joint military exercises, to Russia's dismay.

During Monday's training, American, Spanish, Italian and Greek soldiers walked Georgian military through various battlefield attack techniques. The Georgian soldiers trained with Russian-made weapons and fired at silhouette targets dotted around the field as NATO troops observed, occasionally intervening.

A helicopter landed just yards (meters) from the field in which the live-fire exercise was being conducted, drawing gasps from British personnel. The helicopter later whisked Saakashvili away.

AP

Well it seems his pilots need some more training!

If Georgia was to become a full NATO member not only would Russia's borders, and the black sea be be compromised from their point of view, with the enclave within Ossetia etc, a dangerous situation could develop where NATO troops were enclosing Russian troops.

This obviously is a real cause for concern for accidents and anything staged, or just bad command.

Kind Regards,

Elf

Even though just two days ago or so NATO and Russian Miliatry co - operation resumed after the ending of the NATO exercises in Georgia, Russia has now responded in Kind with the following:

Russia Begins War Games Near Georgia ATS

As all praying it is not a Pretext for any intervention in the Georgian Crisis that still carries on at present with the political situation internally.

Kind Regards,

Elf

I don;t think i will post anything about the missle defence sheild on this web site.I have posted statements about that in other web sites under another profile name and it got wiped straight away.I guess some one in the goverment did not like what a had to say.

reply to post by GORGANTHIUM


Please do, if you have links to MSM, or credible sources or ATS Threads on This it would be very welcome, and as long as it does not circumvent the ATS terms and conditions, as above from a source that is at least not a Blog, and presented with your own thoughts in a civil way IT WILL NOT BE deleted.

Kind Regards,

Elf

Well an statement today from Russian President Dmitry Medvedev shows that in fact that Russia is taking steps to be ready for both defensive and offensive actions, to protect themselves from the shield:

"First, I am instructing the Defense Ministry to immediately put the missile attack early warning radar station in Kaliningrad on combat alert.

Second, protective cover of Russia's strategic nuclear weapons, will be reinforced as a priority measure under the programme to develop out air and space defenses.

Third, the new strategic ballistic missiles commissioned by the Strategic Missile Forces and the Navy will be equipped with advanced missile defense penetration systems and new highly-effective warheads.

Fourth, I have instructed the Armed Forces to draw up measures for disabling missile defense system data and guidance systems if need be...

Fifth, if the above measures prove insufficient, the Russian Federation will deploy modern offensive weapon systems in the west and south of the country, ensuring our ability to take out any part of the US missile defense system, in Europe.

One step in this process will be to deploy Iskander missiles in Kaliningrad Region. Other measures to counter the European missile defense system will be drawn up and implemented as necessary.

Furthermore, if the situation continues to develop not in Russia's favor we reserve the right to discontinue further disarmament and arms control measures. Besides, given the intrinsic link between strategic offensive and defensive arms, conditions for our withdrawal from the New START Treaty could also arise."

Zero Hedge

At the same time NATO KFOR troops are having real issues in the Serbian Area, traditionally an strong Russian stronghold:

KFOR troops withdrew yesterday after coming under attack from Serbian Nationalists who wont accept the Kosovan Border and territory, this is escalating and todays incident comes after a series of deaths, bombings and such like in the area.

21 Nato Soldiers Injured

This ties in strongly with the Missile defense shield, as having NATO troops in one of the old satellite states of USSR (Yugoslavia) on their border, also the same in Georgia and in the west the shield and armanents in Poland et el.

The first statement made by the Russian leader leaves no doubt how Russia as I always stated view this move, it is seen as an direct and outright enclosure and circling of Russia, Post 9/11 and Iraq Afghanistan who can blame them for taking steps to ensure their own protection?

Kind Regards,

Elf

Russian NATO envoy is going on tour soon to discuss their reponce to the shield with allies:

Russian envoy to NATO Dmitry Rogozin will visit China and Iran in mid-January to discuss a U.S.-backed global missile defense network.

“We are planning to visit both Beijing and Tehran soon under the Russian president’s directive, to discuss the planned deployment of a global missile defense network,” Rogozin said during a roundtable meeting at the lower house of the Russian parliament.

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Also Iran has threatened the shield in Turkey:

Iran will target elements of NATO missile defense network in Turkey if attacked, Iran’s Mehr News agency said citing a senior military commander.

"If we are threatened, initially we are prepared to target the NATO missile shields in Turkey and then we will target other places,” Amir Ali Hajizadeh, commander of Iranian Revolutionary Guards’ Aerospace Force, said on Saturday.

Turkey agreed in September to host a U.S. early warning radar in the southeast of the country as part of NATO's missile defense network. The radar is aimed at countering ballistic missile threats from Iran.

RIA


If anyone has any other developments on this please add to this thread.

Kind Regards,

Elf