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Michael Phelps is cheating.

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posted on Aug, 16 2008 @ 02:53 AM
Ah. And the mystery conspiracy is solved:,101129

Friday, Aug 15, 2008 1:32 pm EDT

The mystery of Michael Phelps' iPod playlist

In nearly every camera shot of Michael Phelps on dry land, he can be seen with iPod headphones dangling from his ears. The earbuds are a ubiquitous presence in the ready room and on the starting block; they're just as much a part of Phelps' 'uniform' as goggles and a swim cap. About two minutes prior to the start of a race, Phelps sheds the iPod along with his warm-ups. So, what is he listening to?

Podcasts of NPR's This American Life and Dylan live at The Supper Club. No wait, that's my iPod. Phelps listens to hip-hop music on his. He says it helps motivate him before a race.

While his pre-race tracklist varies, Phelps has said that "I'm Me" by Lil' Wayne has been on his playlist in Beijing. The track, off Weezy's EP "The Leak" features the line:

Yes I am the best/and no I ain't positive I'm definite/I know the game like I'm reffing it
That's about the only lyric that's printable on a family blog.

Other artists that populate Phelps' iPod include: Jay-Z, Young Jeezy, Eminem and Outkast. (What, no 'Pac?) Occasionally, he'll throw some techno into the mix, but usually keeps things rap-centric. Phelps doesn't speak much about the specific songs he's listening to, but he did tell NBC in 2004 that Eminem's "'Til I Collapse" was on his most-played list at Athens. In 2005, he created a playlist for the website Rhapsody that included the songs "Roses" by Outkast, "Burn" by Usher, "Overnight Celebrity" by Twista and "Smile" by G-Unit.

Mystery: solved.

posted on Aug, 16 2008 @ 02:54 AM
I think what he's done is great! He wins because he was born with more physical talent and trains hard and long. Go Michael!

posted on Aug, 16 2008 @ 05:18 AM
I didn't have time to read the whole thread so I don't know if this has been posted before, but that IDoser does not work very well at all, at least for me. *snip*


Mod note: Please review: UPDATE: The Discussion Of "Illegal Activity" On The Above Network Sites .

[edit on 8/17/2008 by JacKatMtn]

posted on Aug, 16 2008 @ 06:53 AM
you should read up more on idoser before you jump to conclusions.

I myself have tried idoser, and it works from time to time. What you need though is a quiet place, and i believe an olympic pool doesnt mee the requirements.

Phelps has other disorders which make him quite the athlete.

"The most decorated Olympian of all time is not only one of the tallest swimmers in the pool at 6 feet 4 inches but also has an even bigger arm span at 6 feet 7 inches. His disproportionately long torso allows him to generate force from his body's core, allowing him to shunt great volumes of water behind him."

"His unique physiological build also attests to his amazing stamina as he produces far less lactic acid than other athletes under aerobic strain, so he recovers faster."

i got that from

posted on Aug, 16 2008 @ 07:37 PM
well congrads ITYL,

You have officially gone off the deep end!!!

posted on Aug, 16 2008 @ 11:26 PM
this thread is both pathetic & hilarious,but regardless it's in the history books now folks,MP has made Olympic history,WTG Mr. P
and ya know what they say about men with *big feet*

[edit on 16-8-2008 by ibelievewearenotalone]

posted on Aug, 16 2008 @ 11:41 PM
reply to post by BASSPLYR

Phelps is obviously mentally deranged in some way, it is apparent from his psychedelic outbursts and his overall appearance. The problem with such an athlete is; humanity tends to view great athletes not just being successful in their particular sports, but being overall perfect or within normal parameters of their overall lives, which he does not seem to be, thus he should not be represented as an Olympic champion since he embarrass U.S. and its overall athleticism. Furthermore, with all the modern inventions in nano/bio technology and even implants, undetected cheating is more possible then ever.

posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 01:43 AM
Floyd Landis and Marion Jones are confirmed US drug cheats despite both claiming they weren't cheats. Perhaps Phelps isn't, perhaps he is. Time may tell. However wouldn't you think that with so much money and expertise behind the guy that his team could have figured out how to cheat the system? Marion Jones did and only admitted it years afterwards.
The temptation to cheat for athletes at this level is enormous. For a shot at going down in history as the best ever athlete the 'carrot' must be incredibly hard to resist.

posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 03:15 AM
so now Mr. Phelps is not only a cheater but mentally deranged?

i was half-way joking with my previous reply,but this thread is becoming a bit ridiculous now
give credit where credit is due,the man set Olympic History,accept it

posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 10:37 AM
reply to post by synyster.

I was wondering myself about the feast that scientist will have in with his genetic make over to figure out what makes him such and unique individual and perfect swimmer.

He is also at his peak and that helped his overall readiness for what he has done.

But is very unsure if he will be able to perform the same amount of routine swimming for the next Olympics with the same results.

posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 10:52 AM
Here's a little story for you nay sayers.

Angel Heredia

I won't say that the states are the only ones to cheat. What pisses me off is so many people saying with certainty that the states are not cheating...

Recently a new article came out in Danish papers, where Heredia said that he would be surprised if a single person in the 100m dash finals was clean. Why? Because he himself was part of designing untracable doping. "Crai crai, you can't make untraceble doping!!" How do you ATS fellar know that?

I must admit, I'm very very impressed if Michael Phelps is completely clean. Look back at all those incredible wins in sport. I'm pretty sure I don't have to mention the words "Tour de F...". Soccer.... well 100m Dash.
I think he managed to have the perfect drug designed for his purpose and now it's paying off...

Having said that, I think drugs should be allowed in sports. If everyone is doing it then they are back to square one. Then we can sit back and judge them and go "oh... wow... the drugs that guy uses are good" instead of "wow.... nice accomplishment from that athlete!!".
They will be reduced to glorified addicts with little or no selfrespect but at least we would know. I really don't care if they want to ruin their life or career with drugs, as long as they have the courtesy to do it in the open. I'll still be entertained.

[edit on 17/8/08 by flice]

posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 11:55 AM
reply to post by elevatedone

He has said all he listens to is Rap Rap and more Rap music.


posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 12:04 PM
Congratulations to Michael Phelps!

and a big "In your face" to America haters and Communist sympathizers!

posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 12:09 PM
reply to post by RRconservative

Haha... now I hope even more that they catch him. It took some time before all the Tour De France crap became public, so we still have time.

posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 04:51 PM
The only "cheating" Phelps does is that he is physically superior to the other swimmers, works harder than they do, and prepares better.

Too bad the person that started this thread is so ignorant and jealous.

I guess he never heard of Mark Spits either?

posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 05:00 PM
Phelps has achieved what nobody else has ever done, and deserves praise for his feats. He deserves a lot of recognition in the US especially, because without his 8 gold medals, the USA would be waaay down in the medal rankings, scrabbling with countries 1/10th their size.

posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 07:23 PM

Originally posted by italkyoulisten
In response to the China is cheating thread:

Oh yeah? Well Michael Phelps cheats. you can't possibly be in that many events one after another and win.

Have you ever noticed that he listens to his ipod before every race?

Did you notice that Michael Phelps wears earphones and is listening music just before his every Olympic start, at Beijing's Olympiad Water Cube pool deck, be it finals or semifinals? I first noticed that before his first gold swim on August 10: Phelps removed earphones 2 minutes before the start, and he was the only swimmer who worn earphones at the pool deck.

And you know what else? It is known that sounds at certain frequencies can produce effects on the body and brain. This principle is demonstrated in the program idoser.

On their website, they sell a number of products, known as "doses", one of which is:

Crack / Recreational (Very Strong) / 30 Minutes / It’s a purified form of coc aine. Are you ready for the next level? The effects are produced in minutes, are intensely euphoric, and last between 20 and 30 minutes upon completion of the dose. The intense, short high is followed by a rapid and intense high that lasts about 5 to 7 minutes. There will first be euphoria with delusions and possible hallucinations. Get through the bump, though, and fall into bliss, with some jarring revelations, and a sometimes harsh comedown over the 30 minutes past mark. Not for the inexperienced.

Victory / Steroid (VERY STRONG) / 30 Minutes / Our JuiceIT dose will get your body ready, now get your mind ready! Our victory dose was designed to work with JuiceIT to put your mind in a state like you've "already won." It gives you a huge mental advantage in any game of sports, but don't think it's just for sports: great for workouts, public speaking, or anything where you need to "win" in any sense of the word! Guarentee a victory by putting your mind in a state where it already feels like you've won! Victorious!

ipod and idoser share the letters I O and D. What letter is missing? P, for Phelps. Phelps listens to his ipod before every race. Coincidence?

What are you smoking?

posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 08:18 PM
I've been wondering about the swimming competitions - not just Phelps.

Even if you remove Phelps from the pool, you still have a few world records, and numerous national records being broken. Canadian swimmers broke at least 16 national records (and were still largely absent from the podium).

The two possible explanations I've heard are that the venue's conditions are just about the best in the world - perfect air and water temperature, perfect depth to absorb turbulence, and so forth. The second is the suits - which are a debate unto themselves.

The third thing I've been hearing for a few years is the presence of performance enhancing substances which are not tested for - and are (at this point) legal. For example, amino acid chains that allow you to burn fat reserves from the start of a race/workout, as opposed to relying on glycogen reserves exclusively.

Not to turn this into a testimonial, but I tried one of these supplements (marketed here as Vaam 3000) on a run last night, and was pretty stunned by the results. I usually do 5km, and wound up doing 7. I'm pretty sure I could have gone another km. What really shocked me was that I still had energy to kick for the last 300m - despite adding an extra 2km to the run. (I'll be buying a case of it later today)

This stuff is perfectly legal -- and pretty widely available. I know that it's very common with distance runners (marathon/distance chat boards are full of info on the stuff). Several Olympic marathon runners, past and present, have talked about using these supplements for training and competition. I'd be shocked to find that it (or similar products) were not being used in other events.

The question is: Is it cheating to use it? It's certainly a performance enhancer - but it's in a different class. It's not a drug, per se. And it's not tested for (yet). Does that make it ok?

There was a time when steroid use was not tested for...


posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 08:24 PM
His greatness may be due to "bad" genes not cheating in anyway. He definatley has some sort of Marfans like disorder.

Phelps attended a training session and felt his heart accelerate at an alarming pace. Bob Bowman, his coach, immediately consulted Phelps's mother, Debbie, and suggested he undergo tests.

His fear: Marfan syndrome, a disease which can lead to defects of the heart valve and aorta, and substantially reduce the life expectancy of those it afflicts.

"If you reach out your arms and form a T and your wingspan is longer than your height, you can be at risk," Phelps wrote.

Phelps, indeed, displays the classic symptoms of the disease. His elongated frame is now 193cm - about six feet and four inches on the old scale. But his arm span is considerably more at 208cm.

"In my case, those measurements have always been very close," he wrote. "I didn't know at the time why the doctor decided to look into this. My mom and Bob didn't want me to freak out, so they told me that it was simply a good idea for young athletes to have an EKG [electrocardiogram] test in order to look at the heart."

Phelps's measurements have prompted some to speculate that the very physical factors that have formed the fastest swimming stroke in history could be 23-year-old's fatal flaw.

"He grew unevenly," his mother once said. "It was his ears, then he had very long arms, then he would catch up somewhere else."

Tests cleared Phelps of Marfan syndrome at the time, but doctors have urged vigilance and the American star still undergoes annual check-ups for the disease.

"Fortunately, everything was and still is okay," he wrote, in the chapter titled, 'Now for the long haul'. "I have been tested once a year ever since at [Baltimore hospital] Johns Hopkins under the direction of Dr Peter Roe and the tissues are strong, the aortic route is clear and my heart is in good shape - as long as my Baltimore Ravens are winning."


[edit on 17-8-2008 by KTK]

posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 08:26 PM
Is anyone else still trying to figure out what a "psychedelic outburst" is?

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