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Topic started on 14-8-2008 @ 06:33 PM by AgentScully
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I just saw this on youtube and I think its new so I had to share. What do you guys think is this fake? This is the best evidence of ghosts I’ve
seen so far. It looks to me that they are sailors from around 1900s dressed in white with caps on. Soo creepy.
Queen Mary Ghosts on Youtube
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reply posted on 14-8-2008 @ 06:44 PM by BASSPLYR
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It's very interesting.
There is a lot of activity in this video. Could be faked, could be real.
I grew up in a haunted house and the shadows aren't that consistent and the ghost isn't that active usually. it looked like there was a shadow man
waking around the same corridor area and a vaporous semi complete apparition going up the stairs.
Could be a hologram on a loop during halloween week over at the queen mary. could be real. the shadow like thing moving around in the foreground
looks like it would be difficult but possible to fake.
either way an interesting video.
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reply posted on 14-8-2008 @ 06:46 PM by BASSPLYR
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now that I look at the video again the shadows I was talking about in the foreground could be artifacts of the camera and pixelation, but they are
worth looking into.
As for the white apparitions. they look a little too fake. If it's too good to be true it probably is.
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reply posted on 14-8-2008 @ 06:46 PM by TheEnlightenedOne
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It does look interesting but from the link on youtube the uploader says he just placed the camera there and went for a smoke?
Isn't Queen Mary a tourist attraction now? Wouldn't you think there would be more people wandering around?
Not saying it isn't true but a better explanation as to why the camera was just sitting there would be nice. (So, he leaves the camera there goes
for a smoke and doesn't care if the camera gets stolen?)
I am not an expert in Ghosts but, do they create a reflection of themselves in walls? Take a look at the first dude that comes out of a room on the
right hand side...at about, 16 seconds...see the reflection of the 'ghost' on the left wall?
Is this normal for a ghost? Don't you have to have some type of mass in order for the object to be reflected? Can you reflect transparency?
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reply posted on 14-8-2008 @ 07:09 PM by BASSPLYR
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no it's not normal for ghosts to have reflections, seems like this vids a hoax. Like I said a hologram maybe from halloween week at the queen mary,
part of the ghost tour?
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reply posted on 14-8-2008 @ 07:09 PM by BASSPLYR
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no it's not normal for ghosts to have reflections, seems like this vids a hoax. Like I said a hologram maybe from halloween week at the queen mary,
part of the ghost tour?
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reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 12:07 PM by AgentScully
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I did a quick search for the Queen Mary’s Terrorfest and didn’t find anything like this, can someone post up a link of what a hologram would look
like? I was wondering if there is glass in front of the camera that is reflecting people who are walking behind it? I don’t see any evidence of
that though.
Terrorfest
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reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 12:47 PM by Oldtimer2
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I grew up in Long Beach I remember when the Queen Mary first came,knew a lot of people who worked on it when it was being prepared as a tourist
attraction,lot's of people quit because of goings on there,I went on it before renovations,I never saw nor felt anything
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reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 12:52 PM by bamaoutlaw
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didn't taps(ghost hunters) do a show there and find people on the ship planting fake evidence making the place look haunted? seems they got pretty
mad also unless it was another ship.
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reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 04:30 PM by AgentScully
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I just wrote to the photographer on his youtube. Here is his reply.
hi I just saw your thread! that's cool! I was surprised to see so many responses. I wish the video was longer but the batteries died. I had just
charged it too. I had some friends in town and we went to the bar there right down the hall in the video. The wierd thing is I was standing right
there looking out on the harbor. I didn't hear anything strange or feel anything weird. But then I did have a few drinks in me.  When we got home I
thought there was something wrong with the camera because it shouldn't have died on me. So I plugged it in and saw this video. crazy eh?
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reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 05:32 PM by 1Veritas
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This one, while granted it could be real but we will never know for sure because we would have needed to be there for the event, because it can be
easily faked. As noted above this effect is very easy to recreate by putting a peice of glass in front of the camera. And also as noted above The
Queen Mary was covered in an episode of ghost hunters. In it they get footage that would be amazing if it were real but on closer inspection they see
the camera was tampered with and it looks like the hoaxing had to be done by the people who worked at the queen mary trying to build in the mystery to
drum up business or whatever. I have watched that episode, well a lot of times, and I am someone how reads people very well and I personally believe
that little host girl was one of the poeple involed. To all who have seen it I am sure you probably know what I am talking about. But then again what
do I know.
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reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 06:41 PM by AgentScully
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reply to post by 1Veritas
Humm, you might be on to something. I went and checked out that episode you were talking about.
Ghost Hunters
I think it probably was the staff of the Queen Mary that did that stunt, only they would know about the secret door and they are probably quite
familiar with how to pull off such a camera trick.
I have looked at a lot of youtube channels and I feel that the poster of my first video is honest, he has a legitimate channel, he was the actual
person who shot the video and he doesn’t have a bunch of similar “ghost” clips on there. If he knew how to do such a stunt he would have done
it several times.
My guess is that he stepped away from his camera and someone on the staff pulled a prank on him.
Here’s another youtube of Queen Mary staff people setting someone up.
Haunting?
Case solved, or is it?
I would still like to see an example of how this might have been done to know for sure.
Considering all the other “ghosts” I have looked at on youtube this is still one of my favorites.
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reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 07:01 PM by 1Veritas
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I recently saw that effect recreated on something I was watching on tv. I'll try to remember what it is and find it. If I remember correctly I plane
of glass needs to be in front of the camera at I believe a 45 degree angle. Then if light is shined on a moving object it reflects ghostlike in the
glass. I believe it is how they think the apparition images my have been faked, if they were, in the ghost adventurers special, where the two guys
investigate areas in Goldfield Nevada. Heres a link I found that sort of shows what I am talking about. If you stop at 2.25ish on the video you will
see the same affect but it is highly distorted thanks to youtube. Link
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reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 07:41 PM by Lecter
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I spent a night on that ship. Walked around at night, didnt see or hear anything that might have been a ghost. I think people wish too hard to
experience something.
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reply posted on 16-8-2008 @ 12:43 PM by fishneedh2o
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reply to post by TheEnlightenedOne
Exactly. Doesn't California have strict public smoking laws?
On ghost hunters they film for hours and hours with tons of equipment and just get a tiny bit of stuff.
This guy puts his camera down for a minute and gets ghost after ghost walking by within a minute.
Something is fishy.
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reply posted on 29-8-2008 @ 04:17 PM by Heike
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I just discovered this video today from a link to a blog.
I agree that the bit about going out for a smoke and leaving the camera recording is a bit .. well .. fishy .. but I still think it's a great
video.
I don't suppose there will be any way to tell for sure if it's "real" unless someone admits to the hoax, but I still like it.
Thanks for posting it and I'm sorry I didn't notice it before or I would have commented sooner.
And .. if it's NOT a hoax.. all I can say is .. WOW!!!
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reply posted on 29-8-2008 @ 10:50 PM by Tuebor
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I was on a business trip many years ago and spent the weekend on the Queen Mary.
I knew nothing about the ship or the haunting of it until after my trip when I told some coworkers about my experience. That's when I was told that
it had a history of ghosts.
After dinner one night I came back to my cabin and all the lights were on. I'm sure I turned them off before leaving that evening. Also when I
returned the mirror in the bathroom was smoky. Not mist, but like there was smoke behind it. I couldn't rub it off. It had been perfectly clear
earlier.
It has a lot of character and has a creepy feeling. There is something going on on that ship
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reply posted on 3-9-2008 @ 02:38 PM by AgentScully
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reply to post by Heike
Oh thanks  cause I’m new and this was the first thing I posted. It’s kinda cool how skeptical some people are though. I’m sure this site is
good at getting to the bottom of things. But it's kinda fun to leave things open ended too.
[edit on 3-9-2008 by AgentScully]
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reply posted on 3-9-2008 @ 02:56 PM by dave420
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The video could be anything. Absolutely anything. Assuming it is ghosts isn't exactly logical, when there are plenty of rational explanations that
adequately cover what we can see on the footage.
I love the Queen Mary. I met my folks there for cocktails back in '99. I love how you can't see the end of the long corridors due to the shape of
the boat. It does feel creepy, but then any large metal object will have that impression on people, due to the low-frequency sounds (infrasound) that
carry very well through the spaces inside. These inaudible frequencies cause feelings of terrific fear and anxiety in many people, which can make
them expect to see ghosts, and make them feel the place is haunted. That doesn't sound like much, but if someone is in that state, almost everything
out-of-the-ordinary (which when you're on an ex-ocean-liner in Long Beach, being out-of-the-ordinary for most people, is pretty much everything) is
attributed to ghosts.
It's a great video, but it's not evidence of anything other than someone made a creepy video on the QM.
Thanks for the vid, though! Keep up the research - deny ignorance
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reply posted on 3-9-2008 @ 02:58 PM by dave420
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reply to post by AgentScully
Oh, and please don't think I'm dismissing the video out-of-hand. I'm no knee-jerk skeptic. If ghosts could be demonstrated tomorrow, I'd be
their loudest supporter. I just need to get some hard evidence first
It is fun to leave things open-ended, and that's exactly what having no evidence is - the phenomenon might be very real, just unproven. It's a
win-win situation - we either know for certain, or we have the tantalising possibility of it being real.
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