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Killer taped boys torture prosecuter says

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posted on Aug, 16 2008 @ 01:42 PM
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Thanks, I was having a hard time finding the info on what she was required to do in court. I knew he was defending himself but I thought the court had ordered him to have a real lawyer present as advisor.

Zindo




posted on Aug, 16 2008 @ 05:19 PM
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I lived close to where this happened. they found the boy in a campground close to town here in Montana. everyone was on the lookout for these kids. was a horrific horrific turn of events.



posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 01:06 PM
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posted on Aug, 17 2008 @ 08:45 PM
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This is why we have capital punishment. This is a crime that deserves death; he'll be lucky it will be applied in such a sterile environment unlike the terror and horror he forced upon his victims.



posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 03:16 AM
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No...I was thinking of beheading the lousy jerk, just like they do in the middle east. Seems to work well over there.



posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 03:55 AM
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This is truly a tragedy, but the fact that Shasta lived and was saved because of media reports and people who recognized her picture, and the man's is in jail and will never harm anyone again is a victory.

I don't even want to speculate what I would do to this man - cause I'd probably get sent to hell myself for thinking about it.

That said I just did a search and found this guy had a blog on the internet.

Idaho suspect's blog details 'demons'
Journal: 'My intent is to harm society as much as I can, then die'

Monday, July 4, 2005; Posted: 8:44 p.m. EDT (00:44 GMT)

(CNN) -- "Right now the only thing I'm sure about is that I'm sure about nothing. It is not a good position to be in considering my circumstances (being a felony fugitive and all)."

Those are the last words Joe Duncan wrote on his Web log, or blog, posted late in the afternoon on May 13.

That was three days before a triple homicide in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, and seven weeks before Duncan was charged with kidnapping 8-year-old Shasta Groene, who along with her 9-year-old brother, Dylan, had vanished by the time authorities arrived at the scene May 16.



That's about 1/3 of it - follow the link for the rest of this demented story.

CNN.Com Duncan Blog

Curious - I don't know if this is the right place for this, but do you think people become this way from bad life experiences or were they just born evil? I think some people are born evil and trouble makers, while others are created as such from their environment. How much are we a product of training and environment and how much is hardwired?

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posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 12:28 PM
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posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 11:33 AM
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Very tragic, indeed, and should be treated that way by all decent people revulsed by his actions.

I feel confident that once the ACLU and the benevolent left-wing of the liberal democrat party review this case and offer their recommendations, he'll get all that they feel he so richly deserves, sentenced to time already served and a resounding slap on the wrist.



posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 12:01 PM
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This story really makes my heart ache for humanity. This sicko is not a human being he is a demon from hell walking among us. He does not deserve to be treated like a human being. He should be executed and sent back to hell where his soul came from.



posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 12:05 PM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

Demonic is as good a way to describe this monster as any...

Deserve humane treatment? Perhaps not, however, we as humans need to do so to preserve our own humanity. Execution? Oh, yes indeed. But no need to make it a cruel one...MHO.




As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 12:21 PM
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Simple question I have:

What is the use of making him suffer as much as anybody can make him suffer?

From a ''it ends with death'' view it seems useless and a waste of time, as his memory will fade after death.


It seems like people here want to do this more for self gratification rather than giving him a fitting punishment.

Either that or everyone believes that there is an afterlife in which you will remember the pain you suffered before you died and will remain affected by it regardless of what happens, without having a God along to punish you (Why punish him now if he will get sent to hell by God afterwards?)

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posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 12:29 PM
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Originally posted by hikix
What makes humans act this way? I really want to know, considering GOD made all men in his own image... how does a human do this? What is the religous or scientific explanation for something like this?


Many experts agree that pornography is the reason behind the large number of perverts out there now. There are some people who are just not all there to begin with, society-misfit-types, then they get curious or bored maybe and find child pornography and it just continues from there.



posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 12:56 PM
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Just to let everyone know the judge ruled that Shasta would not have to testify in court where she would have to look at Duncan. The evidence collected by the police in the form of video and audio was sufficient for the courts.



posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 01:27 PM
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Originally posted by -0mega-
Simple question I have:

What is the use of making him suffer as much as anybody can make him suffer?

From a ''it ends with death'' view it seems useless and a waste of time, as his memory will fade after death.


It seems like people here want to do this more for self gratification rather than giving him a fitting punishment.

Either that or everyone believes that there is an afterlife in which you will remember the pain you suffered before you died and will remain affected by it regardless of what happens, without having a God along to punish you (Why punish him now if he will get sent to hell by God afterwards?)

[edit on 19/8/08 by -0mega-]


I don't know if it is self-gratification, but there is just something about a child being so unimaginably tormented that brings the animal out in us; the perpetrator is like something that our instincts tells us needs to be hunted down and killed quickly.



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