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America is not afraid to kick Russia out of Georgia

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posted on Aug, 16 2008 @ 01:55 AM
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xul

posted on Aug, 16 2008 @ 03:32 AM
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Go on.
Blow up the world, i don't give a damn, but stupidity should be painful.



posted on Aug, 16 2008 @ 04:21 AM
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Please read what Randy Echo said in his last post:



thankyou for your opinion I am american still american not crazy, and by the way since everyone is all over me I have calmed down alot alright since I posted im not postal anymore I truely have read every response and I understand alot more now than I did before here is where my head is right at the moment I know I have no control over what happens over there do any of us? I know people are dying, and I wish truely that would end I dont want the world to die I am sorry for posting this may you all forgive me



I think we should stop flaming him?!

He apologised,give him a break...



posted on Aug, 16 2008 @ 04:21 AM
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Yeah the US has some awesome weapons ,, and things we havent seen yet,,, Russia better step back


xul

posted on Aug, 16 2008 @ 04:39 AM
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Originally posted by Oceanborn
Please read what Randy Echo said in his last post:

I think we should stop flaming him?!

He apologised,give him a break...


Wops, somehow i've missed that post.
I'm glad someone learned something.



posted on Aug, 16 2008 @ 10:52 AM
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FYI, Iraq gets to keep all the profits from their oil. while we pay to rebuild their country.

stop with the ignorance... try to research before you speak.



posted on Aug, 16 2008 @ 11:48 AM
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I don't agree. I'm in the National Guard, and have been for a little over 2 years now. I haven't deployed yet, but I will when it's our next rotation, whenever that is (I'm in a non deployable Unit but we all still deploy, just not as a Unit since it's a Troop Command)

The Army is stretched to it's limits as it is. You have Active Army Soldiers that deploy for 15 months, and even when they get back from deployment they leave again in less than a year. I have a friend who is in Infantry and he was deployed, and extended, while he was in Iraq last year. He wasn't home for more than 3 months before he went over AGAIN.

National Guard and Reserve Troops, as far as I understand, deploy once every five years and that's only if the Unit deploys for 12 months. So if a Unit deploys for 10 months, then the eligibility is there to be redeployed w/o waiting five years. I know that this doesn't happen often that I've heard of, but it does happen.

So saying that and giving people a general understand of how that works...

I also don't believe that we're the World's rescuers. Yes it's a #ty situation what's going on over there, and I believe as a person first that everyone has the right to live their life to the fullest extent w/ the same rights us Americans take for granted. But we're already in a #ty predicament to begin with. We're fighting in Iraq, and Afghanistan. We have Soldiers who are also deployed to other stations around the World. The price of gas and the cost of living is up. We've spent billions of dollars in the hole, that the next President has to fix and not to mention that doesn't even include the cost of the War in the National Debt!

So whats the point in joining a NEW war w/ America involved in it? Thanks for being in the Army previously, but I'm not out there to risk my life to show we got guns.

-Lisa



posted on Aug, 16 2008 @ 12:52 PM
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i agree,the situation of having Russia or any issue of similar nature jumping up and down to agrivate the global stability is outrageouse.America has made correct decisions many times before and I trust her now Long Live America,I we in Australia are comforted to know that AMERICA is our ally and I know that if we were in trouble that America would be here to stop us being bullied so to speak.It is just games galore from Russia all the time and it was grossly unfair to pick the timing of the attack on georgia at the time of the Olympics Games in Begiene China.And it should be noted that they are not above the LAW. And I might add that even though American troops were in Georgia helping, the American troops were peace keepers remember that,Americans also had weapons for self defence if needed in case they needed them.It is terrorism to do what Russia did.I challenge Russia to become part of the civilised military world and act accordingly. Russia broke the NATO treaty to my way of thinking and to the best of my pblic domain knowledge.China is communist as well so I would not put callusion passed any one of them. Clockwork timing I feel. If the peace of the World means confronting the Devil, then confront it head on. I congratulate President George W Bush an Condalisa Rice for there forthright responce to this issue of intervention. If the world is willing to stand up for Georgia then whee were they huh.No where thats where,America is the mighty Nation of not only the world but the Universe except for GOD ALMIGHTY but just because some may be selfish and only think of themselves does not give Russia the right to impeach upon Americas allies.If the worl stood back there would be another Pearl harbour, and dont forget it. With the utmost Respect to the world,the armys will come and go ,Russia went but should be now held accountable for there terrible actins based on gred. AMERICA WILL NOT FALL,THE WORL WILL NOT FALL BECAUSE OF AMERICA, the interest of America is not to impeach upon anyones turf but to liberate anyones country from communism if they are called upon to help.I cannot think of an instance where America did not help whenever requested too.The Iraqies asked and they were given,Russia threatened America then,Russia threatens America all the time and nags to promp America to aak .It is called antagonism of America.If global conflict starts,then blame the country that started it, whom broke the International Law,in this case it was Russia.Let it ride the way it will go.I for one know it is in the interest of all to keep the devil of communism boxed up and if it acts up then get rid of it.If you stand by and let anyone take anyone without constraint then you may be next.What do you want,Russian communist rule or American rule.I am an Australian,and am loyal to God,and whomever is as well,whos side are u,whatever is not good enugh when it comes down to it.It is a free world to decide if you want whatever, BUT,Georgia has soverienty and that will be respeced.God bless America her Troops and everyone else whom helps her.You see America is doing her best to prevent the world takeover more often than you think, So Think a little better and have a more broader scope of sight.



posted on Aug, 16 2008 @ 01:01 PM
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What Business is it of the US to interfer with other countries affairs. The US are just a war mongering country and cant keep to their own borders without dragging others into what they seem to want. If you want a war Leave thr UK alone, we have our own idiots running the country without following other bombbastic clowns.

My message to you all is don't let the innocent people suffer for your mistakes.



posted on Aug, 16 2008 @ 01:07 PM
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I think you are under valuing Russia, too much propaganda. If the US were invincible as you say we would know about it. Military analysts around the world have said already a war between east and west would have no winners. If you think the US is immune to Russian bombs then I also think you are a victim of propaganda. I bet you also think muslims living in caves will take down your civilization but nuclear giant Russia can do you no harm... this is what is wrong with the US, you have lost all sense of reality and direction. Europe for one has no defenses and that is why Gordon handed 100 nukes back to the US, they were an Iranian target and if Iran can hit British nukes then imagine what Russia can do. The US and Israel started four major wars in the eight years of the Bush administration, mostly against peasant type countries, it lost all four because it grossly miscalculated its abilities...I rest my case. I bet that if the US and it's Zionist allies start a war with Russia the US will be no more, Britain will sink and Paris will become a nuclear waste land. The western media were betting that the Georgian conflict would turn into an Iraqui style quagmire for Russia, It lasted a week and Russia forced the US and Britain to shelve the gas pipeline through Georgia, the rest is hot air..Russia has won 110%, it's over. There is a saying in Italy that goes: dog that barks can do you no harm. The west is the dog, they bark, bark , bark and loose, loose loose. The West is dead and it's last card is to force the world to bail it out or they will start a nuclear war, it's a very desperate west that has been getting poorer and poorer over the last thirty years. Too much propaganda yankee boys. You only have to thank the Iranians that actually told the British that their 100 US nukes were an easy target, had Iran not told them Britain would have sunk within 10 minutes of any war against Iran, is that a strong country?



posted on Aug, 16 2008 @ 03:06 PM
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as I have said before my viewpoints have been altered by your
posts, I am smarter for it,
I have already apologized

i will again

i am sorry for posting
this

i was just very upset in the beginning
and have calmed down
and I apologize if i got under your skin

I realize there are far more things to consider
far more things to lose
and also that our country is overstepping now

we dropped off the supplies
we should leave

once again just in case you didn't notice
I am sorry



posted on Aug, 16 2008 @ 03:22 PM
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Originally posted by Randy Echo
as I have said before my viewpoints have been altered by your
posts, I am smarter for it,
I have already apologized

A rarity that is !!!




posted on Aug, 16 2008 @ 03:27 PM
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Bottom line: USA is the aggressor. Their foreign policy is the most brutal and wicked one imaginable. This will not change if you vote for obama, Clinton, Mccain or any of the gimps the talking heads present to you.
Ron Paul is the only one worth a DAMN in the US political system (ok there might be a few others, but they are less well known than him).

I’m sorry but you sound like a warmonger and if that’s your bag, you are in for a treat!
There will likely be plenty of war coming your way...and soon! Hold on to your belt and dig in, because its what you've been asking for.

Russia is NOT the guilty party in any of this mess in Georgia atm, this was USA/ISRAEL/UK backing Georgia all the way.
The USA wants to plant missile "cough cough" "Defense" around the globe! Missiles EVERYWHERE, so they can accurately police people as they see fit...for themselves, Israel and the UK... this and the Caspian oil pipeline for good measure…if it wasn't so disgusting, I'd laugh.

This western media nonsense is absolute propaganda...in the worst way.
People like you, always rushing into wars you don’t comprehend and that don't concern you is one of the biggest reasons why the world is as unstable as it is.

I know I'm not going to convince you of anything, because you don't care...otherwise you wouldn't be advising W-A-R, brutality and hatred.
How many more wars do we need to fight for Israel/Zionism I wonder? When will it be enough? I guarantee this, unless people turn off their idiot boxes and look for truths outside of the mouths of the talking-heads, war is coming and soon.
It appears that the USA couldn't even defeat Afghanistan or Iraq ; what on earth makes you think it would succeed against Russia? Because of your big toys? That is all you’ve got, big toys and limp wrists. Russia walked into Georgia and in two days could have had it completely owned if they wanted. Georgia was entirely disabled. No, if USA entered a war right now, they'd.....likely do the world a favor, because they would get stomped into submission and then Israel would have no big-brother-protector to stave off whirlwind of retaliation that is sure to come upon it.
Me old mum always told me "pick your friends wisely", its a shame USA never learned that. They pick Israel and its porn, homo, abortion, bolshevik, commie, fiat money, usury, debt, welfare, taxation, zionism, neo-con, illuminati, blood-sucking ways.
EVEN IF the USA could pull off some semblance of a victory against Russia, they’d owe the banks countless trillions MORE money and would only drive itself FURTHER into oblivion. No, either way, it’s a LOSE LOSE situation for the USA.

Wonder why your country is obese, lost in legal and illegal drugs, immoral, destitute, indebted, lacking credibility, uneducated, illiterate and loathed around the world? Wonder why the MASSES of people in all other countries look at USA with disdain, even though their leaders bow to it shamelessly?
Get a grip m’man. Either the USA should go back to its constitution and reform everything from its Federal reserve act to immigration, to its justice system, to its foreign policy or it should bend the knee and raise the fist in allegiance to its bolshevik illuminati-neo-con-zionist masters, lower its red white and blue and raise a star of david emblazoned on a crooked cross, way on high for all to see. That and publicly burn its constitution…because at least that would be a more honest approach!

Lets hope the people of the USA pick choice number one, arrest GWB, Cheney, Clinton, BO and everyone else bowing to AIPAC, JINSA, AEI, PNAC etc and get someone in there who gives a DAMN about real Americans and a real America! Those who don’t, should be tried for treason…in a REAL court of law, not Talmudic law, AMERICAN law.

911 was a fraud, Iraq a fraud, Afghanistan a fraud, and your idiotic Media told you what THEY (and you?) wanted to hear. Shame on you for backing them and not doing your homework.



posted on Aug, 16 2008 @ 03:47 PM
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Damn! I posted that and I didn't even realize you had appologized; now I must appologize (I don't read every comment, because its often too much to read).
My response was in response to your OP. That being said, find some of what has been said in there and do a little bit of research and see if what I wrote (though unpopular) is untrue.
Glad to see you are no longer of the mind to go to war and I hope you will always look the issue from all sides before wishing war...war sucks. Again, my apologies.



posted on Aug, 16 2008 @ 04:12 PM
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America doesn't need to meddle in Russian affairs.

The people of Georgia are thanking the Russian troops for protecting them from their own President:

www.youtube.com...

So stop listening to our media and officials who do nothing but lie to us.



posted on Aug, 16 2008 @ 04:14 PM
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Hey!

I read your comment just now.

That is a true rarity that someone would admit when they were wrong, but if you get the chance please watch the video I just posted.



posted on Aug, 16 2008 @ 07:12 PM
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Russia is more vulnerable than you know. I'm not saying Russia is weak, not at all. You can't compare the two based on nukes alone. What makes Russia formidable is they do still have an advanced military. Not only that, they are able to tread over international waters without much conflict, whereas other nations have this problem. You can't just sent your military by air and ocean and expect a free pass, this is what makes USA and Russia unique. They can dispatch their military anywhere in the world.

Now, why is Russia vulnerable? Russia is vulnerable due to NATO. If USA went to war with Russia, you can almost guarantee it would be NATO vs Russia. This means all those anti-missile defense systems spread throughout Europe, and most recently Poland, would be very effective against Russia. You can have nukes, but if you don't have anti-missile defense you are not a viable opponent. Russia DOES have anti-missile, some say it's better than the Patriot system. But Russia would have a very difficult time sending anything out of the country.

It's not all about USA and advanced military technology, which spends more money militarily than the rest of the top 5 countries in the world combined. The key component of a conflict with Russia is it would be USA, Britain, and France. Russia could _not_ win. I have deep respect for Russia, but there is no way they could win against Europe and America. Not saying that Europe and America would demolish Russia, if it would even go that far, but there's no real win scenario for anyone.



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posted on Aug, 16 2008 @ 09:47 PM
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Dude/Dudette, I'm trying to help you here.
Take a huge deep breath, then go back and edit you post. I know you have your reasons for your venting but all you're going to achieve is more warnings and eventually a ban.



posted on Aug, 16 2008 @ 10:13 PM
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