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reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 07:01 AM by TKainZero

reply to post by jpm1602

Your Probaly on to something there... and just a quick tangent... Any reason you dropped a W into my name... Ill just take it as a accidental key-stroke...

War is not something a sane man seeks out...
But when it comes to him, a true man will face it...
And the coward will run away...

Now, however, is not that time...

If my worst fears come to pass, then we will have to face Russia in a large-scale-global-nonNuke-fight...

It will be a clash between 2 of the finest fighting forces this world has ever seen...

Off the top of my head, i cannot name a greater fight...

Not Hannibal and Carthage against Scipio and Rome...

Mabye Ceasar and Pompy...

But nothing like this...

The worlds biggest super-power vs the world last super-power... + machine guns...

When the USA and Russia throw down, it will be one of the greatest wars in the histroy of mankind... the possible pinicale of our technological prowness, i say possible pinicale, because there is a chance that if the conflict breaks into Nuclear war, the worl will be in a BAD BAD BAD place...

As soon as my country faces an enemy that can truely destroy us, i will do my part to serve... and hopefully, i won't have to tell my grandkids that i shoveled (blank) in Kentucky...

Thats all..

reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 07:09 AM by Anonymous ATS

reply to post by Randy Echo

in the case of Georgia and Russia conflict. The bully is the US who instigates a small kid to do his dirty work. Trains him and supplies him with weapons. Unfortunately the other bully ( Russia) is well prepared and waiting and ready. Now the small kid gets clobbered and cries back to the US.

reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 07:41 AM by Mdv2

Originally posted by Solarskye
reply to post by no name needed

Whatever!!

Why does it always have to be America? There are Europeans over there that can handle this if they wanted to. America isn't the only country available for this battle. It's time for all nations to stand up and do what's right.

And you two wonder why Europeans find Americans generally to be stupid?

We will deal with this yes, diplomatically. We'll leave the ignorant warfare to the Americans and Russians.

The OP is even more ignorant. What are you talking about? World opinion on your side? Have you been living under a stone the past couple of years?

I, for one, don't want to end up in World War III. After two world wars on European soil we know what to avoid. And Americans being able to fight a war? With this economy?

reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 07:47 AM by Nikolas

Everyone keeps saying nukes nukes nukes... Has everyone forgot about biological weapons, and the fact Russia and the U.S.A. are the two nation's that posses small pox... You think Russia or the U.S.A would go down without throwing everything they've got; nuclear, biological, chemical. Its war logic.

Many American's beleive the U.S.A. is shielded from nuclear attack because of missle defence program. How effective do you think that is going to be if Russian submarines surround the U.S.A and launch all their nuclear/biological weapon's as fast as possible?

If the U.S.A was stupid enough to engage the Georgian-Russian conflict with military force, I am sure the world will be complete #ed in the end. Think of how much radioactive fallout would surround the planet.

Many pro-American's need to stop letting the media control their emotions and showing so much hate towards the Russian's. Remember, it was Georgia who threw the first punch, not Russia.

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reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 07:52 AM by Lethil

Really....taking on russia in their own backyard?...sorry all Americans who think that is even slightly plausable are just idiotic or deluded...maybe both...America would be ripped apart if they even tried it...But anyway...i think this will settle down in the next few days...back to square one with S osettia practically in russian territory...thousands of lives lost....Pretty pointless from the georgians if you ask me.What the hell were they thinking!?

reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 08:14 AM by _Heretic

war will go on and on until there is only one man left

then there will be no more bullies

VICTORY!!!

reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 08:52 AM by mental modulator

Originally posted by mental modulator

Originally posted by Randy Echo
I was an american in the army back in the early eighties, and I can tell you we were ready to fight them hand to hand if we had to, because we were taught how and why we should do it, in vietnam we had our guys getting shot and killed by russians, and we killed some of them as well, I personally feel that we should push Russia out of georgia, a real war , not dealing with roadside bombs, but whatever measures we need to do it, I don't believe it will ever get nuclear in nature, but if it does we have the best nuclear program in the whole world, and pretty much the best navy, definetly the best airforce,

we are looking like complete wimps right now because we have the men, the tools, the reason, and world opinion on our side right now to do it, we pushed the iraqis out of kuwait and we could push the russians out of Georgia, I think now is the time we grow some resolve and get them invaders out of our allied country, sure they need medicine and tents and towels, which were supplying but what they really need is there big brother to do a little bully removal work, come on america , we need to fight for them as they have fought for us, side by side in iraq.

I am starting this thread because I feel It needs discussed and that I am not alone in this way of feeling, its time to fly that eagle, use some of that expensive secret reseach we have done out in the southwest, lets help our brothers who want to be free from these soldiers that just keep getting deeper and deeper into our brothers country.

SEMPER,,, YAH!!!

LETS KILL EM ALL. CHARBROIL THIER CHILDREN AND SKIN THE REST

AMERICA CAN DO IT!!!

PUSH THE BUTTON !!!

GOD BLESS AMERICA!

ORG!!!

WE WILL CRUSH THIER BONES!

STAB THIER EYEBALLS WITH RUSTY NAILS

GAS THIER SCHOOLS AND EAT THIER BABYS

Lay off the VIAGRA...

reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 09:37 AM by TheInfamousOne

First off, let me say I know our military is superior to Russia and I love our the men and women who serve. They deserve better and the best treatment for when they come home.

But, I personally think we should stay out of it since Georgia started the entire mess.

There are people who live there that went on live television that thanked the Russian Troops and explained that Georgia was the first ones that started bombing on their homes. The went on Fox and Fox tried to shut them up once they started speaking out. Fox went to a commercial break.

Who do we think we are to tell Russia they should back off? Hello?! Look at us and Iraq.

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I guess the Pentagon and the Leviathan Force of the US needed to create a new enemy once again so we can keep feeding them Trillions of dollars. So, they created an old enemy and made it new once again.

Another good job by the current administration. Gee, there's an oil pipeline that runs through there as well. Hmm......

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reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 09:52 AM by SaviorComplex

The United States is scared of a direct confrontation with Russia, just as Russia is scared of a direct confrontation with the United States. The estimated 21353 nuclear warheads between the two countries shows just how scared they are.

reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 09:52 AM by Randy Echo

Originally posted by kpoff
reply to post by Randy Echo

Well I'm just tickled s***less you lowered yourself to reply to a post by one of us scum ass former cops. Not all cops are ignorant and arrogant assholes. Kinda like soldiers. Some of each have enough common f*****g sense to know that starting WWIII ain't just the smartest thing you could do. A true patriot would use their head a bit instead and act according to what's best for their country instead of their ego and libido.

People following your trail are paper General Patton wannabes minus Patton's intelligence.

Nice the only comment you had on my post was about "true patriots" not liking cops. Screw everything else, huh? Man, I sincerely hope you're just a janitor somewhere with no real power...

I would call you a first class dumb-ass douchebag but I think personal attacks are against forum rules so I won't.

Enjoy your next toy soldier tournament.

kiss my american butt and quit policing your own people
id rather be a janitor than a cop
sorry charlie i sense in you a powerhungry bully of your own
you wouldnt want things to possibly change in this country
because you got it real good living off our taxes
and living the american dream, too bad all your friends
are cops too
if you have friends
before i went in the army i trained in law enforcement until I realized
i wasnt like the others around me, cocky, powerhungry, abusive
i wanted to help people, not write them tickets for speeding
which i might add as a patriot we dont believe
in,
no blood , no foul
so please just dont try selling anyone your crap
cause i think we all know cops hardly ever save anyone from anything
they just arrest people who do bad things
and show up after its too late to write a report about how some
poor slob got shot because he thought you guys would be there to save
them
so he didnt buy that gun

reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 09:58 AM by Sandia-1985

Anti-war people are soooo naive ... they think there's still a way to use diplomacy , they want to prevent war as much as possible but as an european I can tell you , Russia doesn't know diplomacy , it knows mafia-like deals , corruption and violence , as a french I think Europe should join the U.s and annihilate all the destruction capacities of Russia , before Russia start to be a REAL problem for all of us . Anti-war people should check the content of their underwear , if it's empty i'll make no comment .

Last year during winter , Russia cut off several lines of gas going to ukraine and europe , even France had problems ... we can't stay dependants of people like that ...
What will anti-war do when Russia will cut off gas lines for a longer period , in winter , just because IT WANTS ? will they open their mouth to make useless diplomacy again ?
Should I remind you what happened 3 or 4 days ago when and WHILE peace talks were made ? Russia continued his attacks and his invasion . Yeah now you know Russia loves diplomacy ...

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reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 10:09 AM by Randy Echo

whatever I say on here isn't going to start a war
it isn't a fart in the wind
I cannot change anything
you have heard my inner anger of years and years
of watching the Russians prance around threatening us
if you think that they are benevolent
your out of your mind
as far as having europe handling this
fine then they need to get off there ass
I am beginning to change my view only in one corridor
and that is that Georgia may of overstepped itself
in what events would take place
so as I gather your input i realize it is ok to allie yourselves
with countries who fight weaker adversarys
not stronger ones,
yes im talking about georgians in iraq fighting terror
and not us in georgia against russia

what is right here people, its ok for us to use up there soldiers
but not ours for them
which actually means then that the USA are liars
we never really intended to back them up
just wanted them to send us some bodies to fight our senseless
unprovoked war in Iraq

and you say IM crazy and brainwashed

reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 10:21 AM by kindred

Bush along with some American's are truly arrogant. Who the hell do you think you are. This is our backyard you're messing with. So take your lies, propaganda and meddling and shove them somewhere else. Preferably in your own backyard.

Just typical of the Bush admin to support a psychotic dictator.

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reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 10:24 AM by Sandia-1985

we let people like you (...) express themselves , let people different from you express too , stupid dork

I went on the profile of that guy , and all the threads he participated to are related to anti-Bush and anti-America stuff , we have an english commie in the place

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reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 10:26 AM by fleabit

Well, I've known many folks like the OP in my years in the Army. Rest assured, thankfully, they are the ones who go do what they're told, and are NOT making the important decision. The world would be in ruins, and we'd be living like cavemen once again, if folks like this ran the world.

One of my friends was an 11B that would open beer bottle tops on his arm. He'd twist them off with this own skin, causing himself quite a bit of pain. Why? Because he was tough! Hooah!

But sadly not too bright. He was of a similar mind. Kill 'em all, let God sort 'em out! I liked the guy, but I was happy he was an NCO, and would never be in a real position of power. His mentality is one that would cost lives. Just like the OP. Who cares if we spend billions, putting us into a recession, causing our own here in the States to suffer? Who cares if more soliders die? We could save some POWs!!! OMG it's SO WORTH IT! Then they can't say "Man, you guys are such wussies!" Yea.. we'll show 'em!

Some folks don't realize there is a much bigger picture to look at, that involves politics, innocent lives, money, etc. You pick your battles carefully when you are a Super Power for a reason.

reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 10:44 AM by heady89

reply to post by Randy Echo

Since when did tech matter if you have enough manpower.
Even if you were to start a war with Russia it wouldn't be a walk in the park. Manpower might have mattered more before but, it still does today, especially China which is growing stronger and stronger.

Jeeze you guys think your invinsible... freaking redicilous

Why a`lot of european countries don't interfer is because we don't play "world police" like America does every now and then.

Try solve som # without guns... no wonder you get hated so much.

reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 10:56 AM by ugie1028

well if georgia punched fisrt, they should be held accountable for this WAR. we need to stop poking russia, just look at the issues, the evidence, deal with this situation diplomatically! we dont need to start WW3 cuz a bunch of children wanted to throw a rock at a bear.

(georgia throws rock at russia, russia throws bigger rock back at them)

they had to be retarted to think they could actualy start a resistance against russia!

"sigh" i really hope the USA doesnt step in... were up SH!TS creek as it is... we dont need anymore problems.

reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 11:05 AM by twistingtree

reply to post by oldcop911

we have been arming georgia they wear our old US surplous stuff before the uniforms went digital you can see USA on their equip. in the some of the pictures during this ordeal. Also our US special forces were there and trained there military or how ever many units. So my question is why did we arm them, then we train their units and then ironicly this happens not to long after hmmmmmmmm

Georgia is just a pawn for the USA

Part of the US-Georgia deal was a $64m plan to equip the Georgian army - The Georgia Train and Equip Program (GTEP). Two hundreds US special forces troops were sent to Georgia to train the Georgian army.

US military help continued with the Georgia Sustainment and Stability Operations Program. Part of this program helped prepare Georgian troops for operations with the US led forces in Iraq.

theorangepartyblog.blogspot.com...

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reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 11:06 AM by Anonymous ATS

reply to post by Sandia-1985

And how exactly full scale war with Russia will help to deliver russian gas to Europe?

Right now Europe needs Russia more than Russia needs Europe, just because there are others in need of reassures, China for example. Or are you suggesting to try and occupy all Siberia?

reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 11:06 AM by heady89

Originally posted by ugie1028
well if georgia punched fisrt, they should be held accountable for this WAR. we need to stop poking russia, just look at the issues, the evidence, deal with this situation diplomatically! we dont need to start WW3 cuz a bunch of children wanted to throw a rock at a bear. (georgia throws rock at russia, russia throws bigger rock back at them)

they had to be retarted to think they could actualy start a resistance against russia!

"sigh" i really hope the USA doesnt step in... were up SH!TS creek as it is... we dont need anymore problems.