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Billy Meier The Liar

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posted on Aug, 14 2008 @ 11:17 AM
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How can anyone believe that Billy Meiers stuff is genuine? Is he part of the greatest UFO case ever, or simply a hoaxer


I found this interesting weblink from a film company that visited Meier, that helped to confirm he is a liar. Originally the film crew was there to support Billy Meiers case, but after discovering models and evidence of deceptive hoaxing methods, the fil, crew quickly changed its mind. To add insult to the film makers, it was revealed that the "experts" used to support Meier, turned out to not be experts at all.

www.geocities.com...

And then there is the wedding cake craft


forgetomori.com...

Anyone have anything to add on the Billy Meier hoax? Feel free to add all his ridulous photos and debunked eveidence here, or evidence to support him if need be




posted on Aug, 14 2008 @ 11:23 AM
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I feel he may have had some type of ET contact in his life, but he still used fake UFO models regardless to prove his point.



posted on Aug, 14 2008 @ 11:32 AM
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I personally believe that the Billy Meier thing has run it's course on ATS - don't you?

I mean, how many times does it take to discredit one lonely man?

I have nothing further to add to this one.

Good luck.

Breifne



posted on Aug, 14 2008 @ 11:41 AM
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Originally posted by Breifne
reply to post by OzWeatherman
 


I personally believe that the Billy Meier thing has run it's course on ATS - don't you?


I thought this sorry matter was dealt its death blow a while ago in this Thread

I still enjoy looking at the "Ray Gun". It gives me a chuckle every time. And as for the recent Billy Meir apologist I guess they were not aware of these pics or else they may have reconsidered their story.

The all to convenient "the devil made me do it" defense is wearing a little thin with me these days...

[edit on 14/8/08 by WatchNLearn]

[edit on 14/8/08 by WatchNLearn]



posted on Aug, 14 2008 @ 12:42 PM
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Originally posted by OzWeatherman
How can anyone believe that Billy Meiers stuff is genuine? Is he part of the greatest UFO case ever, or simply a hoaxer


I found this interesting weblink from a film company that visited Meier, that helped to confirm he is a liar. Originally the film crew was there to support Billy Meiers case, but after discovering models and evidence of deceptive hoaxing methods, the fil, crew quickly changed its mind. To add insult to the film makers, it was revealed that the "experts" used to support Meier, turned out to not be experts at all.

www.geocities.com...

And then there is the wedding cake craft


forgetomori.com...

Anyone have anything to add on the Billy Meier hoax? Feel free to add all his ridulous photos and debunked eveidence here, or evidence to support him if need be




Unfortunately your links are highly contaminated and definitely not trustable. By
quoting Kal Korff and Kentaro Mori you just lost credibility ( if any ) to your post.
Korff is a sinister individual with a hidden agenda well known and despised in
Ufology, a clown. Kentaro Mori is just a 100% skeptic individual from CSICOP
who denies everything and everybody related with ufos, aliens etc. but in
reality the guy is just a poor ignorant living in a cave away of the UFO reality.

By consequence since your Billy Meier post is based in these two individuals then
it's clear you must be also a member of CSICOP trying to promote these two
guys. So far your thread has'nt tell anything new on the countrary you are again
repeating the same old vinyl record from the past so why don't you go back to
your CSICOP paradise and update yourself on this case to present a decent post.



posted on Aug, 14 2008 @ 12:47 PM
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Originally posted by free_spirit
it's clear you must be also a member of CSICOP trying to promote these two
guys. So far your thread has'nt tell anything new on the countrary you are again
repeating the same old vinyl record from the past so why don't you go back to
your CSICOP paradise and update yourself on this case to present a decent post.


Oh boy, this is a new one, Ive been accused of working for the US government as a disinfo agent but never this. What is CSICOP by the way?


Perhaps you are part of Billy Meiers cult, on ATS to attack anything bad said against him?



posted on Aug, 14 2008 @ 12:49 PM
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Originally posted by Breifne
reply to post by OzWeatherman
 


I personally believe that the Billy Meier thing has run it's course on ATS - don't you?

I mean, how many times does it take to discredit one lonely man?

I have nothing further to add to this one.

Good luck.

Breifne


Yes, perhaps I may have been a bit too hasty on creating another Meier thread, but there does seem to be many a thread trying to support him


Will just have to see how this one pans out anyway



posted on Aug, 14 2008 @ 12:57 PM
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Originally posted by OzWeatherman

Originally posted by free_spirit
it's clear you must be also a member of CSICOP trying to promote these two
guys. So far your thread has'nt tell anything new on the countrary you are again
repeating the same old vinyl record from the past so why don't you go back to
your CSICOP paradise and update yourself on this case to present a decent post.


Oh boy, this is a new one, Ive been accused of working for the US government as a disinfo agent but never this. What is CSICOP by the way?


Perhaps you are part of Billy Meiers cult, on ATS to attack anything bad said against him?


On the countrary Oz Wweatherman. Just read what I have posted in the Billy Meier
threads, use the search function. I sustain what I said about your post and these
two individuals Korff and Kentaro Mori, you know very well who they are so don't
pretend to ignore the facts. If you want to debunk Billy Meier go ahead and be my
guest but use at least reliable sources and evidences. And don't pretend to ignore
who CSICOP is just to justify yourself. Regards.



posted on Aug, 14 2008 @ 01:02 PM
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Originally posted by OzWeatherman
What is CSICOP by the way?


CSICOP stands for the Committee for Scientific Investigation into Claims Of the Paranormal. It was re-branded last year as CSI (Committee for Skeptical Inquiry). The organization is part of the Center For Inquiry and publishes the magazine "Skeptical Inquirer".

Here is their website: www.csicop.org...



posted on Aug, 14 2008 @ 01:03 PM
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Originally posted by free_spirit
[On the countrary Oz Wweatherman. Just read what I have posted in the Billy Meier
threads, use the search function. I sustain what I said about your post and these
two individuals Korff and Kentaro Mori, you know very well who they are so don't
pretend to ignore the facts. If you want to debunk Billy Meier go ahead and be my
guest but use at least reliable sources and evidences. And don't pretend to ignore
who CSICOP is just to justify yourself. Regards.


Ooooook then

If I was really working for CSICOP or whatever it is, do you really think I wouldve wasted an entire year here and 36 posts on other topics that have nothing to do with Billy Meier?

Maybe the evidence was flawed and biased, but at least it provides an alternative to Meier's own fraudlent and biased evidence

Edit- Thanks derekcbart for letting me know




[edit on 14/8/2008 by OzWeatherman]



posted on Aug, 14 2008 @ 02:25 PM
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Billy Meier is a contactee. While most of them have run their courses in the 1950s and early 1960s, Mr Meier still has followers. I do not believe a word of it, but if some people do, what is the harm? Most researchers ignore him and let him live his life.

The articles brought up are old news. I wish nothing but the best for Mr Meier and his followers.



posted on Aug, 14 2008 @ 02:30 PM
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Sorry for the old news....my bad

I believe he and other serial hoaxers do some serious damage to the credibility of the UFO/alien topic. How can people believe if most of the evidence they are presented with is complete BS

Thats the harm he does and I wish these people would just stop it



posted on Aug, 14 2008 @ 02:37 PM
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Meier, Meier pants on fire! Who can forget that classic ray gun? There was a post here where somebody showed the toy gun that was made from.



posted on Aug, 14 2008 @ 02:38 PM
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There are many more who are doing far worse than claiming to be a contactee.

There are those who state there is an atmosphere on the moon (Mr Lear)
The royal family of Britain are Reptilians (Mr Icke)
There are many secret military bases in Dulce (NM) and Camp Hero (NY) (many different authors)
There are bases and life on Mars, not to mention ancient cities on Mars.
There are many bases on the planets Jupiter and Saturn (later changed to the moons of Jupiter and Saturn when information about the gas giants became more clear)
Millions of people are abducted through their roof (many authors)
People who "channel" aliens and other beings
The planet Nibiru, Annunaki, and 2012 (I'm looking at you, Mr Sitchin!)

One can see there are numerous out there theories that are more damaging than an old contactee from the 1960s.



posted on Aug, 14 2008 @ 02:43 PM
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Don't want to stir any hornets nest here, but let's suppose for argument's sake, there was a current contactee who the 'authorities' really knew was the real deal, and that the person was widely promulgating photo's and anti-establishment 'literature'.

If he was by then too public to 'just kill' and wasn't for sale, wouldn't the secret state send out 'film crews' that 'discredit' them? Wouldn't they 'find' artifacts or models to 'prove' they were hoaxers?

what I mean is, if Meier or someone else is 'proven' to be a scammer -who are you trusting as your information that this is so? Even low-level operatives like the police can create fake life histories and birth records for important protected and relocated witnesses (and some criminals released with new ID's) -so imagine the reach and resources of groups tasked to keep UFO disclosure buried.



posted on Aug, 14 2008 @ 02:59 PM
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who is billy meier? there are l,ots of threads about him. I look at them but they dont tell me who he is.

besides opinions are like aholes and every1 has one. so i dont see why one guy warrants so much attention.



posted on Aug, 14 2008 @ 03:06 PM
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Originally posted by tigpoppa
who is billy meier? there are l,ots of threads about him. I look at them but they dont tell me who he is.

besides opinions are like aholes and every1 has one. so i dont see why one guy warrants so much attention.


Here you go, have a read of this


en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Aug, 14 2008 @ 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by tigpoppa
so i dont see why one guy warrants so much attention.


For a one-armed man, some of his films and images are pretty eye popping.

fwiw I am on the fence still with Meier, if only because i am aware of the destructive power of state-organised character assassination.

You know, Adamski, who I also think was similarly targetted, claimed to have had his 'Silver Springs' UFO footage also doctored by our blessed 'authorities' to make it look amateurish (and fake). I recall clearly seeing private cine film of a good copy of this footage when I was younger, and the craft didn't just 'warp' shape but changed colors too. Something the debunkers with their 'proof' this was a cut-in-half 3D model cannot duplicate.

So much lost to time though, especially when they die...

[edit on 14-8-2008 by LynUK]



posted on Aug, 14 2008 @ 03:58 PM
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Hello.

Your avatar is actually based on a photo of one of Meier's UFO "beamships".

-Derek



posted on Aug, 14 2008 @ 04:49 PM
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i personally dont think he was lying you could give me all the proof in the world that he was lying and it still wouldnt change my mind, with such clear photos and footage the government will go to all lengths to debunker it and thats of course what they did



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