Modern day militias would immediately be designated domestic terrorists and thrown in prison.

Think underground, and a little less public

Originally posted by Scorched Earth
Modern day militias would immediately be designated domestic terrorists and thrown in prison.

Think underground, and a little less public

I hear what your saying and share that concern, though I feel that a large standing Militia would basically be "immune" to such charges if it were large enough and contained enough citizens...

Assuming the Militia was large enough, it would be more powerful than any police force that could be sent after it. A large standing force would also prevent the Fed from taking over as many are concerned about...

just my 2 cents

I believe that most modern state militias are now refered to as the National Guard.

No, state militas would not be labeled as a terrorist organization.
I'm not sure where the other poster got that information, but it does get a chuckle for originality.

Many states have militia. Just look at the Minutemen who patrol the borders. They are a sort of militia, and are in no way, shape, or form a terrorist organization.

Remember, its your 2nd amendment rights to have a militia. It is also your right to defend that right with GUNS. I know many people that will not give up their guns or their right to militia without a fight. These I know as my "Good Ole Boys". Down here in Texas we got plenty of them.

The government never could take away all of our guns. If they tried, they would have alot of trouble on their hands.

And plus, any government that attempts to take all of our guns, needs to be overthrown anyways. That would be a pure violation of our Constitution, and it would be our duty to see that the tyranical government attempting to abridge those rights not be able to continue.

Remember, our country has always held the belief that it is the people that gives the government its power. We have always rebelled against governments that overstepped their bounds. We were the first colony to rebel and win independence.

I don't think we should follow blindly. We might have another rebellion looming in the future.

There's the New York Guard. I don't know much about it except that it can't be deployed and is independent from federal regulations.

Patriots have to live and operate underground these days, Just mention " Militia" to most anybody and they will relate that word to terrorism, because that is what the government has crafted it into. I am willing to bet that any and all militias in our country have government spies in them and or they are under close watch. A few years ago I looked up a militia where I live and although my state does have one it is almost non functional with only a handful of members. What I found is the best thing to do is locate and make contact with like minded people in your area and form an underground militia, with no paper trails and dont call yourselves a militia, and dont meet up for "training" meet up for "poker night"

To borrow from Anuubis' avatar: Patriotism, you're either with us or a terrorist.

With no insult intended toward anyone serving in the military or state militias, I don't trust Uncle Sam as far as I can throw him. It's probably my personal paranoia that lends itself to the idea that within regards to, say, martial law, anyone serving in a state guard outside of federal jurisdiction would be branded a traitor if they resisted disarmament or disbanding of their militia.

In conditions that martial law provides for, the Constitution would be made null and void. Kiss your rights--including your right to bear arms and your rights of free speech--goodbye. You would no longer be a citizen; you would be a prisoner in your own country.

For that reason, in regard to any declaration of martial law, it would be up to members of a community to declare independence from those over them. That is our given right via the Declaration of Independence, so I find it decidedly convenient for Uncle Sam to make such documents of no effect by law if and when it decides it must suppress coming insurrection.

In other words, according to Uncle Sam, we live in a great nation founded by traitors to the British crown and champions of personal freedom, but damn if people who believe in those ideals try to leave us as a nation.

The American Civil War is such an example. Without commenting on the "right or wrong" of it all, the Confederacy wanted to secede from the nation. They didn't just start out going to arms; they declared independence through diplomatic means. Uncle Sam didn't care for it too much, so they set out to suppress what they considered insurrection. In other words, it was the Confederacy who found it necessary to defend themselves against the Union.

I would not join any militia that was sponsored by any form of government within the United States. Let me say this: as an American citizen, I have no wish to harm or hinder my countrymen. I would never join an organization that attempted to overthrow reasonable government. I would never be party to any sort of operation wherein innocents losing their lives or property was an acceptable part of the plan. I hold no ill will toward anyone around me.

However, I firmly believe that enacting martial law on a group of citizens who did not ask for it is an act of war against the ideals of "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" for those people. If the decision to enact martial law is not put to a vote by the citizens, it is an act of war. Acts of war by my own country on its citizens will not be acceptable, and I will gladly meet that act of war with equal oppression.

That is, a declaration of martial law would be met with a declaration of independence. All I would want at that point is reasonable accomodation to pack up and bug out, peaceably. If, however, the government felt my declaration of independence was an attempt at insurrection or treason, and they chose to meet that with forcible oppression, I would match their force, bullet for bullet.

If I am guilty of breaking a law, I consider myself reasonable enough to be taken into custody without incident. Even if I am accused of breaking a law but I am comfortable that my rights to jury and fair trial will be honored, I will gladly go in--they wouldn't even need restraints. If, however, I feel that my own government is threatening me, I will match their action with my reaction. Martial law would not be initially met with chaos and gunfire, but if they attempted to put me down for what I believe, I would defend myself with equal force.

Sorry for the rant, but this is an issue I have mulled over for years.