The Quadrennial Exploitation Of The Moronic Masses, page 4

It is so difficult to rise above the propaganda today. There is right and there is wrong and there seems to be no gray areas. Liberal or Conservative and nothing else matters.

This is a pure form of conditioning for all that participate in our media today, tv news, cable news, radio, now the internet. It would be interesting to get the view of world events from some one not influenced by all of this mess. Personally I have had almost 40 years worth of conditioning, I attempt to see beyond it but it so much easier to just go alone with the other sheep of sort of the same color.

Personally I find it hard to believe that Obama and McCain are the best two options we have come up with. This is part of the problem, we need more real choices. When Abraham Lincoln won the presidency there were 5 people running for that office, he only got like 35% of the vote and won, but I would feel more comfortable with more options other than blue or red.

Now if you don't mind I posted this thread and got no responses, Am I just as guilty or am I apart of The Quadrennial Exploitation Of The Moronic Masses.

The failure of imperial presidency and the one-party government that would rule for generations. Spin is spin yes? is this just liberal spin? or propaganda? Not about the election BTW.

This is a good thread

All Hail our Fearless Leader SO

reply to post by Andrew E. Wiggin

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All of that is correct to a great degree. And it will be correct until after the elections.
We can only hope.

Originally posted by schrodingers dog
reply to post by Andrew E. Wiggin

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The OP appealed to:

-*- mindless repetition of divisive spoon-fed political talking points

-*- patently false information about candidates presented as truth

-*- exaggerated disaster scenarios if one or the other is elected

-*- shameful racism

-*- shameful bastardization of candidate names

-*- shameful focus on personalities instead of issues

-*- pathetic fear mongering

-*- embarrassingly little focus on real, important, vital issues

I know there are good threads, I participate in many of them.

All I am saying that the hateful ones are as frequent as ever. And long term they will not, try as they might, taint ATS.

If ATS members did en masse abandon pathetic fear mongering and exaggerated disaster scenarios, posting numbers would fall faster than Heather Mills in a room full of hungry termites. I guess it all comes down to the question of quality vs quantity. Do we want ATS filled with 99 threads about how GWB is preparing a cybernetic body to have his brain implanted in to assure he's the president forever and one thread about actual conspiracies, or do we want 10 threads about actual conspiracies and a lot less fluff posted? Personally, the anti-conservative crap doesn't bother me half as much as the incessant "the sky is falling!" propaganda does. I'm resolute in my political identity so I could care less what the pleebs think about it, but it would be sort of nice to be able to see some legitimate alternative news posted and not have to spend hours running down a huge agenda checklist to make sure the entire things isn't just typical baseless fear mongering. It's cliche but accurate to say that if I read on ATS that the sky was blue, I'd be doubtfull of the statement until I had verified through numerous sources that the sky really was blue.

reply to post by burdman30ott6

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posting numbers would fall faster than Heather Mills in a room full of hungry termites

Thats hilarious!

As the rest of your post pertains:

I totally agree with you!
Thank you for having that approach with ATS.

It is very refreshing.

reply to post by SkepticOverlord

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You know what? I'm gonna have to take one for the team.

SDog is going to change his Avatar to turn all this negative energy into fluffy bunnies.

I'll be back in a jiffy.

There We Go, this better work!

[edit on 8/13/2008 by schrodingers dog]

I don't mean to be a fatalist here but if you could just shift yourselves from the so called "Norm" whatever that may be to a more Schizotypal mindframe.. I think you will be well on your way to conquest of what you have identified thus far. The fact that every single micron of what we call reality and what we have been taught is reality is a true sham and has been that way for a very very long time.
Schizotypal personality disorder

I know..it sounds lonely doesnt it? Ya get use to it

reply to post by Andrew E. Wiggin

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Termites eat modern thermoplastics?

No, I get the joke, even if it is more of a Pirate reference.

There is an old joke about the two wallflower misfits, embarrassed about their disabilities....the girl has a wooden eye (she's too poor to afford a good glass eye) and the boy has a wooden leg....at the school Sadie Hawkins Dance. They were constantly taunted, and were quite sensitive about it. Well, everyone's certainly heard this one, it's quite old....

Guess it's best to just avoid these political forae....at least until we get closer!!!!

Just in case....the rest of the story...

The boy, sitting dejected....she, also spurned by everyone....finally gathers the courage to go over and ask the boy to dance, thinking he'd certainly not resort to taunting. Relieved, he blurts, "Oh, wouldn't I !!" And, insulted, she points and shouts, "Peg Leg! Peg Leg!"

(this works best, verbally....hopefully...)

reply to post by SkepticOverlord

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Thank you!!

One thing I've noticed and what all but proves people are just voting for the "lesser evil" is that they don't focus on what their candidate has to offer. Pretty much all you get is why the other guy sucks so bad.

Neither candidate has come out with a really sound, strong plan for our country during their term. All I've heard from Obama is, "I'm gonna change America" pandering to those who are very p.o.'ed at what Bush did to this country but not saying exactly what it is he plans on doing.

All McCain ever tells us is that the war in Iraq must continue pandering to those who are consumed with some type of America's-the-world's-hero complex.

Neither of them has said what they will do to restore our rights. Neither has said what they are going to do to make sure our kids aren't going to be stuck with the bill (money wise and social wise) that we have run up in this country and the Earth. Neither has said what they are going to do to make sure we don't continue to destroy our Earth making it increasingly difficult to maintain a life sustaining planet.

I don't care whether you believe climate change is caused by humans or not. That's completely beside the point and it is exactly what they want you to focus on in order to make it a political issue. What we need to focus on is the undeniable facts that we are polluting our earth, skies, waters, and bodies and in addition to all that we have to worry about our ecosystem becoming increasingly unbalanced. But neither candidate has even remotely addressed the issue.

It's amazing how something such as our entire world showing very clear signs of distress has turned into a gawd darn political issue. It's not! It's a human issue.

everyone is also under the impression that we only have two choices so you have to vote for one or the other. Vote for your dang neighbor if you believe he can do a better job than either of these two yokes. You vote for who you think is best fit to run this country and lead our people. You don't vote for who you think would be better than the other guy even if he's not exactly what you want. You vote for exactly what you want!

Out of the ballpark SO you nailed it... i have little to add to because you adressed it so thuroghly.... thanks for being a voice of reason in these troubled times.... i havent been on ats for a long time but i understand its purpose and many many threads since ive joined have taken away from the true purpose of the site (i to am guilty of indulging these threads) I will try not to any more

Vote Skeptic Overlord in '08 sorry i had to

here is my thread adressing the devisive rhetoric in ats and in the much broader world i probably titled it wrong but the message remains the same lets stop fighting eachother and fix this

www.abovetopsecret.com...'

[edit on 14-8-2008 by constantwonder]

reply to post by weedwhacker

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Who wa the comedian, on his death bed, who was asked what he was thinking, as his life was nearing an end???

Anyway, the lline goes....."Dying is easy.....comedy? That's hard!"

OK folks that's it, only two shows per night!

Thank you very much!!

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