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Vote For McCain Who Lied About Being Tortured Or Vote For Obama Who Lies About Everything?

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posted on Aug, 12 2008 @ 04:15 PM
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What a choice we have in this election.

Shall we vote for the warmongering candidate who lied about being tortured?

The Top Vietnamese Officer In The Prison Where John McCain Was Held As A POW: "I Can Confirm To You That We Never Tortured Him":

thepoliticaljungle.blogspot.com...

Or shall we vote for the Communist candidate who lies about EVERYTHING?

The Top 10 Most Shocking Obama Pictures Of All Time Show Obama's Parade Of Lies:

thepoliticaljungle.blogspot.com...



posted on Aug, 12 2008 @ 04:27 PM
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I'll go for the "gook" hater over the America hater anyday.

Obama is just surrounded by too many people that has a hatred for America, and it's only natural for it to rub off on him.



posted on Aug, 12 2008 @ 04:56 PM
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Love those obama pics. Incidentally his cousins attempt to overthrow the govt there and install muslim law failed no matter how much obama wanted to help. They are both just a guilty on that one. Surprised they have not both been to the Hague over it.

Over and Over and Over again he is seen in the company of terrorists. More pics will surface closer to election time.

[edit on 12-8-2008 by Illahee]



posted on Aug, 12 2008 @ 05:08 PM
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I think my favorite are the photoshopped pictures! Those are great!


Here are a few more for your collection! They're a hoot!









posted on Aug, 12 2008 @ 05:09 PM
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Sorry im voting 3rd party Libertarian.
I cant see waisting my vote on crap 1 and crap 2



posted on Aug, 12 2008 @ 05:28 PM
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lol

you give real reasons not to vote for mccain

but you give photoshopped images not to vote for obama?

Is that the best you can force your brain to come up with?



posted on Aug, 12 2008 @ 07:39 PM
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Originally posted by MandM
What a choice we have in this election.

Shall we vote for the warmongering candidate who lied about being tortured?

The Top Vietnamese Officer In The Prison Where John McCain Was Held As A POW: "I Can Confirm To You That We Never Tortured Him":

thepoliticaljungle.blogspot.com...

Or shall we vote for the Communist candidate who lies about EVERYTHING?

The Top 10 Most Shocking Obama Pictures Of All Time Show Obama's Parade Of Lies:

thepoliticaljungle.blogspot.com...


Are you kidding me? These are suppose to be lies from Obama??

Here let me list the supposed lies you fellas claim to be from Obama:

1:LIE: Obama lied about being a muslim

TRUTH: Religion is a matter of choice, Obama says his christian, that makes him a christian. Now I am yet to see any evidence from any of you fellas here as to where Obama either says his muslim or at any time where Obama prayed at a an islamic mosk. Seriously either back these little stories of your with evidence or stop spreading lies about the man.

And by the way that picture was Obamas visit to Somalia, it is traditional and a sign of respect for all visitors to wear it.

2:LIE: Obama is a communist.

TRUTH: this "his a commie your a commie" attitude coming from the righties here is just an prime example of old politics many anti-obamanians wish to continue. It does matter the the president outright lies about a war, some americans prefer to keep the old politics, it doesnt matter how hypocritical this may seem. Where on earth is the evidence as to whether Obama is a communist?? His policies are over 90% in line with Hillary's. As for Obamas supposed cousin, show me a picture of Obama with his cousin, this whole guilt by association BS is getting old, if you want to accuse Obama of anything, accuse OBAMA.

3:LIE: Obama is not an american citizen

TRUTH: That is a LIE, Obamas birth certificate has been confirmed by the proper authorities from the state of Hawaii. Until you fellas can provide evidence where it says Obama was born in Kenya, when a the proper federal official says Obamas birth certificate is fake, you have no case. Obama did not lie, this is yet another rumor coming out from righties mouth because they cant debate the issues.

4:LIE: Obama is a muslim

TRUTH: Why is this list repeating itself? A picture of Obama among a crowd is not evidence that obama is muslim, I mean seriously now.

5:LIE: Obama is muslim and unpatriotic

TRUTH: Yes again you fellas repeat yourselves and how convenient, a photoshopped picture of Obama, yes this really raises the credibility of the source you provided.

6:LIE: Obama is unpatriotic

TRUTH: Now we see another accusation repeated through this list, and yet I see no evidnece as to whether Obama is unpatriotic. This is the land of the free, you dont have to wear a flagpin to show that your a patriot, you do not have to carry an american flag everywhere to prove your a patriot. Back in 2003 those who opposed the Iraq war were called unpatriotic including myself. Cut out the BS.

7:LIE: Obama is a racist christian.

TRUTH: So now Obama is a racist christian instead of a muslim and unpatriotic again. Yet I am yet to see anybody provide a video of rev wright making these same comments BEFORE March 2008. And again I dont see any lies coming from obamas mouth, just another rightie rumor.

8:LIE: Hindu goodluck charms means Obama is a anti-christian.

TRUTH: first off this does not prove anything about Obama other than him accepting a gift from indian nationals. A mere photo is not evidence neither does it prove that Obama lied about anything.

9:LIE:Obama accepted another Hindu gift from India which further proves that his anti-american and christian.

TRUTH: Yet again you fellas repeat yourselves, again this is not evidence of anything neither does it prove Obama lied about anything.

This isnt evidence of whether Obama lied or not, this is a neocon propaganda blog, one of many that anti-obamanians here reference their sources from. More so this blog seems to repeat itself all the time on the rumors it lists and has not provided any evidence to back up their claims, JUST LIKE THE OP.

Now let me list you the TRUTH about McSame:

-McCain admits he cant use a computer
-McCain admits his no economist
-McCain does not have a reason for why we are in Iraq, only that this "surge" is working.
-McCain votes 90% inline with Bush
-McCain flip flops so many times Im not going to both to list it here because A) its way too long of a list, B) there are numerous threads and videos that can prove this.
-McCain and his wife Cindy sold their beer shares for $1million and in turn took 1000s of jobs away from americans to overseas. Oh yes and the Cuban regime will benefit from the sales of McCains shares, a marxist regime. Oh the hypocrisy.

McCain is a maverick no more, his thrown his true values away and he will continue the Bush administrations failed policies.

Now, see the list of mine above compared to your typical rightie list which will include "Obamas a muslim, a marxist" etc. The difference is that the above I just posted on McCain are facts, so true that nearly all McCain supporters know this to be true. The others on Obama are either speculation or lies, none of which the OP's have provided any evidence for.

DENY IGNORANCE

[edit on 12-8-2008 by southern_Guardian]



posted on Aug, 13 2008 @ 05:23 PM
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Well said SG. I see the same crap coming from the right and its disgusting and anyone should be ahsamed to call themselves a Republican. All the 'negative' things out there about Obama are mostly lies and photos taken out of context. Yet many on this forum are posting actual facts about McCain that are backed up by actual documents and quotes or video from him stating the claim.

The right is scared of losing power and they are pulling out all the stops to create a campaign based on fear. They things up that are proven over and over to be false, in the hope that one lie will stick. The false attacks that have been made against Obama are disturbing. If you want to attack Obama on policy or actual evidence of wrong doing, go ahead, more power. I'm all for exposing a politician for wrong doing no matter what side of the isle he/she is on.

Just look at the titles of the threads by the right against Obama and compare it to the headlines against McCain. They are not even close.



posted on Aug, 13 2008 @ 05:39 PM
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Yep we have two great choices this year...

The fascist warmonger...conspirator.

Vietnamese tell international press that POW McCain was "singled out for softer treatment" A former Vietnamese Communist Party official is claiming Sen. John McCain was "quickly singled out for softer treatment" as a POW because "he was the son of an American admiral. Phung Van Chung, 70, who was a Communist Party official at the time McCain was captured said "top" Vietnamese leaders wanted to use McCain "for negotiations." Chung also said McCain is refusing "to acknowledge" the heroism of Mai Van On, a Vietnamese peasant who the Vietnamese say swam out during the bombing raid and rescued McCain from drowning. McCain's refusal to publicly recognize Mai Van On for saving "his life" has some in the media speculating that McCain is afraid that to do so would "fuel other, more damaging allegations that McCain exaggerated elements of his PoW ordeal in Hoa Lo prison. Click here for the full story :www.dailymail.co.... uk/news/article-542277/How-war-hero-John-McCain-betrayed-Vietnamese-peasant-saved-life.html


Or the Commie...



posted on Aug, 13 2008 @ 05:44 PM
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Originally posted by MandM
What a choice we have in this election.

Shall we vote for the warmongering candidate who lied about being tortured?

The Top Vietnamese Officer In The Prison Where John McCain Was Held As A POW: "I Can Confirm To You That We Never Tortured Him":

thepoliticaljungle.blogspot.com...


This is a quote from that source:

"But I can confirm to you that we never tortured him. We never tortured any prisoners."

Never tortured any prisoners. Guess every POW that was captured by the NVA during the war was lying, and they were all doing it to back up McCain for president 40+ years later.



posted on Aug, 13 2008 @ 05:48 PM
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Why would you believe the word of some communist Vietnamese official who waged war against this country and surely would want America to elect a fellow anti-American commie in Obama?



posted on Aug, 13 2008 @ 05:51 PM
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Here's a website for you fascist Mcain lovers...

So proud of his war record you are...

www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com...

And don't think YOU Demcrats are any better...in fact you maybe worse...



posted on Aug, 13 2008 @ 06:11 PM
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Originally posted by Gateway
Here's a website for you fascist Mcain lovers...

So proud of his war record you are...

www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com...

And don't think YOU Demcrats are any better...in fact you maybe worse...


Hmmm...I've seen that site before, and I think a lot of people shot it full of holes here on ATS. I especially like how they try to pin his aircraft losses on his performance.


How about one that's not quite so "skewed"?

[edit on 13-8-2008 by jerico65]



posted on Aug, 13 2008 @ 06:16 PM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.


It's quite amazing how the general public will take a bunch of casual factoids (many of which are false) and actually use those to form an opinion on someone. To think that people actually vote that way borders on gross negligence.


As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Aug, 13 2008 @ 07:27 PM
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Im going to speak out here.

Gateway you seem to preach constantly how bad the two party system is yet you are a prime example of the members here who will use this to proclaim some sort of "impartiality". First off for the most part all I see coming from yourside is 90% anti-Obama talk and I feel you add mccain every once in a while to sound legit. Secondly just because you and afew others here are disgruntled about your candidates loosing out the nomination doesnt mean everybody else has to be so calling the other candidates "names" aint ganna make you any different from the OPs posting this kind of garbage.

Ron Paul may be a saint to you but his not to me and many other members . And further more I dont see anything wrong with third party/ previous candidate supporters choosing either McCain or Obama if their upfront about it and not hiding behind the "independent" or "third party" name, I dont think it proves your arguement anything to hear you constantly mocking the two party system.

[edit on 13-8-2008 by southern_Guardian]



posted on Aug, 13 2008 @ 09:30 PM
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Do you know what a socialist and its twin brother communist is? And then after that, would you like me to show you exactly how Obama fits right in that category, based on his political rhetoric?

Or do you know what a fascist is? And then after that, would you like me to show you exactly how Mcain fits right in that category, based on his rhetoric?

By the way, both Fascism and Socialism are leftist philosophical views. If you sense that I "pick" on your Obama more its because I have a particular distaste for leftist ideologues since both schools of thought are perverse twisted versions of each other, and have driven this country into the toilet where we ALL currently reside, waiting for the inevitable flush of oblivion.



[edit on 13-8-2008 by Gateway]




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