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Christian Prophesy: Olymics, WW3, Obama, China and more


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reply posted on 12-8-2008 @ 09:48 PM by For(Home)Country


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Hey, I kind of denied the fact that I thought obama was the antichrist. I clearly stated that I didn't think he was.

Like other people, I am not quite sure what to think about Jesus' second return time-wise. People could of easily thought Hittler was the anti-christ during that time period because of what he did, but we're still here right now. There has always been earthquakes and economical troubles everywhere, since the begining of time, since the invention of economics, and since the invention of plate tectonics. I think that because of our technological capabilities, we are now more exposed to troubles all over the world, making it seem as if the earth is at it's climatic point, economically, and mother-nature wise (sorry, I didn't know what else to call it)
We can not pinpoint his return, but we have to be prepared at all times. We will know when the anti-christ is here, and so far, he hasn't made himself known yet, so we've got some time IMO.



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reply posted on 12-8-2008 @ 09:56 PM by NOTurTypical


Originally posted by For(Home)Country
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12 months? Really? That seems a bit soon IMO, but then again, I do not know as much as you. However, I don't quite get all of the different scenarios where Christians get taken up to heaven. I'm not quite sure about the timeline. Does Jesus come to take Christians to heaven and then the antichrist comes to save the world so to speak, or do we know who the anti christ is and then we go to heaven, or what? I need clarification. I've read Revelations many times, but it seems to have slipped my mind. Maybe I'll google it.


Well, if one can put the pieces together Revelation says then you can determine his identity. But he cannot be revealed until the "restrainer" is removed. That is Christians. Even the other side says this too, that he cannot be ushered in until the "people who will never believe" are taken to "another dimension".

Once the rapture happens then he will be revealed. Almost everyone will think he is God and will welcome him and his ideas with open arms, he will promise peace to the world, it will be a false peace, destruction and death are to follow. There will be people who will come to Christ during the tribulation, they will never take the chip and will be murdered for that and not worshipping him. Basically the tribulation is when God will pour out his wrath on wicked mankind. Much like Soddom and Gomorrah and Noah's flood. Remember, God always drew out his righteous before exacting his judgements.



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reply posted on 12-8-2008 @ 09:59 PM by NOTurTypical


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Some thoughts and I dare say my honest opinions. I find it so difficult to understand how people quote the bible scripture word for word. It has been plagurised and re-written for politcal reasons down the ages and for sure, bares no resemblance to the original writings, having been manipulated by the Romans, Greeks and more importantly the Egyptians through time, to fit their own political and religious views.



The only official English version is the 1611 King James Version, other translations are full of deliberate contradictions. But, there are Hebrew and greek concordances for people who want to examine what the earliest originals state themselves.

For me, it's easy to trust them. I believe God is an omnipotent God, he can easily preserve his word and warms against adding or subtracting anything from it.



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reply posted on 12-8-2008 @ 10:03 PM by NOTurTypical


Originally posted by For(Home)Country
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Maybe I haven't grow up yet, but I still see that there is hope for the world. I've got alot of stuff to experience yet, and I want to make a change. I fully believe in the bible just because it specifically says that it IS God's word, and I am putting my full faith in him because that is what I must do, but part of me hopes the world is around for a while longer.
Don't get me wrong, there is alot of crap in the world, but I believe that some of can still be cleaned up. People are seeing the crooked media, selfish elitists, not to mention a lot of defiled culture comes from Hollywood, not going to lie. Maybe I'm too optimistic, but I see hope, and wonder if Jesus is just a few years away, or a hundred.
With the conflict in Georgia winding down, it seems as if WW3 won't be starting this week, so that is good news.

Wow, this is the first time one of my threads have made it to the front page.
It's winding down yes, but remember Albert Pike's letter, the Illuminati will created the 3rd World War between "Zionism" and "Muslims" so that they will wipe eachother out. Be weary of Iran/Israel, that will trigger the big war. This small scuffle in Russia and Georiga is just getting the west and Russia angry with eachother, Russia will back the Islamic states, and NATO will back the Israelis.

Most likely the Israelis will attack before Obama is elected, they do not trust that he will be supportive of destroying Irans nuclear ambitions. They feel their window is rapidly closing to ensure Iran never gets their nuke.



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reply posted on 12-8-2008 @ 10:08 PM by NOTurTypical


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You're correct, "the" antichrist will proclaim to be God. And since he is empowered by Satan himself he will do many many miraculous signs and wonders to convince the world as such.

The antichrist is "Lord Maitreya":



He has been expected for generations by all of the major religions. Christians know Him as the Christ, and expect His imminent return. Jews await Him as the Messiah; Hindus look for the coming of Krishna; Buddhists expect Him as Maitreya Buddha; and Muslims anticipate the Imam Mahdi or Messiah.



A MUST read:



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reply posted on 12-8-2008 @ 10:16 PM by merky


"I got an email forward from a friend who is "deep" into prophecy, and gets emails from several pastors each day, and forwards the ones she thinks are important. Now, I don't usually read them, but this one caught my attention."

I'm afraid your friend is deep into something, but it's not true prophecy. First it comes from...several pastors to your friend then to you. So that's third hand information on pure speculation.

No human knows when and IF this is or near the "end of the age". Your depending on the frame of mind of all these people your taking there word
as fact........Oh boy!! It's just coincidental information....only.

Do your own research and no matter how hard you try you won't find those kinds of facts leading to the true end.

May I interest you in a crystal ball?



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reply posted on 12-8-2008 @ 10:19 PM by NOTurTypical


Originally posted by Mudanglee
Buddha Maitreya is and will be the next buddha on Earth - long after any remnants of Buddhism remain. He will do what the last buddha did, as well as the infinite number of Buddhas before him - teach humanity the "way". I am definately not afraid of him - why should I be? If you research Buddhism you won't be afraid either.


Because he doesn't just claim to be the next Buddha. If he did then he couldn't be considered "The" antichrist. This one is different, he also claims to be Jesus Christ, the Imam Mahdi, he is claiming to be the "messiah" all religions are looking for to return. This man is the antichrist, he is also scheduled to do a grand miracle on his "Day of Declaration" Read:



The Tara Center, on April 25, 1982, ran a full-page ad in twenty major newspapers around the world, which included New York City, Washington, D.C. London, and Paris. The full page ad boldly proclaimed that the New Age Messiah, identified as the Lord Maitreya, was now alive and ready to assume his rightful place on the throne of world power. The ad bluntly admitted that this goal was at the very essence of The Plan: What is The Plan? It includes the installation of a new world government and new world religion under Maitreya.

Nearly five years later, on January 12, 1987, the Tara Center published a similar full-page ad in USA Today; promoting the lie that "THE CHRIST IS IN THE WORLD." The ad described the Lord Maitreya as "A great World Teacher for people of every religion and no religion."





THE DAY OF DECLARATION

We are told, At the earliest possible moment, Maitreya will demonstrate His true identity. On the Day of Declaration, the international television networks will be linked together, and Maitreya will be invited to speak to the world.

We will see His face on television, but each of us will hear His words telepathically in our own language as Maitreya simultaneously impresses the minds of all humanity. Even those who are not watching Him on television will have this experience. On this Day, humanity's shared experience of His profound love will cause hundreds of thousands of spontaneous healings to take place throughout the world.

"He has been invited by one of the major networks in this country, one of the big 4 and he will appear they have an arrangement that when he gives the time he can appear within a few days. And he has simply been waiting for an even the predicted in 1988 with a whole series of predictions one by one which have come true and this one is of a world stock market crash which he said would begin in Japan. "

"He is waiting for that same collapse in the east takes place in the west and when it obvious that its going to do so he will take the invitation to speak on this nature. (so he is involved in finances and commerce) Then first in this country then in Japan to come forward to help to mitigate the effects of this crises." (Art Bell July 10, 1998).

A major American television network has requested an interview with Maitreya, and He has accepted the offer. The interview will take place a time of Maitreya's choosing, as yet unannounced. Its time to be prepared, for anything can occur as we are now deep in the time of deception. He’s at the door, look up our redemption is coming, the tribulation comes for those who reject the Christian message of Christ, but the hope of the true Jesus is there for the Christian.



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2 Thess.2:3 "let no one deceive you by any means, for that day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition," THE MAN OF SIN.



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reply posted on 12-8-2008 @ 10:22 PM by NOTurTypical


Originally posted by SUMDUMONKEY
reply to post by TH3ON3



but we have been waiting for the end of times or for jesus for 2 000 years the bible written and read in hitlers time could well have been speaking about hitler and world war 2 why all of a sudden would it just be talking of ww3 the thing is this has all happened before..we could have even said it refers to iraq and usa or whatever..how long must we wait ??? a christian view is always like that SOON MY FRIENDS WILL BE THE DOOM AND THE END OF TIMES..doesnt it say that in revelations when was that written?? aand in revelations it said SOON but also that was like 2000 years ago ...so soon , i doubt it


That was impossible, Israel wasn't a state at that time, that is a precursor. In fact Jesus says himself that the "generation that witnesses Israel become a nation will be the generation that will see the end of days."

That happened in 1967 when Israel captured Jerusalem. Yes, Hitler was "an" antichrist, there have been many. But the one Revelation speaks of is "the" antichrist, this one will be possessed by Satan himself.



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reply posted on 12-8-2008 @ 10:26 PM by NOTurTypical


Originally posted by infolurker
hehe... I think all of the Fear & Doom is based on all of the "prophecy" stories we have heard.... pretty much all I have heard (from those that mention wars) is 3... anyone know a prophecy that talks about the 4th or 5th World War?

Most of the Bible prophecy is because many of the end times "pre-requisites" are now met.

Israel becoming a nation again (1948)

The rebuilding of the temple (3rd temple) - may be happening soon as it has been mentioned that the mosque that is currently on the temple mount may not be where the Jewish temple once stood (gentiles sector if I am not mistaken) and they may rebuild the temple on the mount away from the mosque.

The "technology" to reach a world audience (modern telecommunications / TV)

The technology needed to bring about a "mark of the beast" where nobody can buy or sell without it (some kind of implant and no hard currency).

The persecution of Christianity (hell, who would have believed 30 years ago that this could happen in the US? It is mind boggling to see how society has changed and how Christianity is scorned.

Sodom & Gomorrah - Wow, watch TV. I cannot believe how much our society has degraded. Some of the reality stuff on MTV prime time would be on HBO after dark 25 years ago. Our children are bombarded with sex, group sex, wife swapping, torture, S&M as common behavior now. I won't even go into depth with the increase in violence. Yeah, we had scary movies in the 80's but what is up with all of this "torture murder" crap that is going into movies now? (End rant on violence as that could take hours)

What was moral is now wrong and ridiculed, what was wrong is now OK and promoted.

Am I the only one who has noticed?

OK - back to the original topic - There are a ton of other "prophecies" that have or can be fulfilled in the near future and beyond that are the other sources we see on the Discovery Channel and the like on 2012, Other prophets, etc. and it gets people a bit jumpy.




Actually the Bible speaks of 4 world wars. The 3rd during the 7 year Great Tribulation and the 4th when Satan is loosed for a short period of time at the end of the 1,000 year reign of Christ on Earth, at that was he will be resoundingly defeated and thrown into the lake of fire for good.



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reply posted on 12-8-2008 @ 10:35 PM by For(Home)Country


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Thankyou NOTurTypical for all your responses. They are helpful.



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reply posted on 12-8-2008 @ 10:38 PM by cormag


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the devil son being born at the end of the century, u will not find it in a scripture. oh the part where i said the anti christ would be the opposite of a jew, was a theory i heard. but wat "restrains" him r the 4 horsemen. the world doesnt end until they come. so i'm assuming after the 3 1/2 years of peace the 4 horsemen will come and the anti christ will bring the world to it's knees.



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reply posted on 12-8-2008 @ 10:41 PM by NOTurTypical


Originally posted by For(Home)Country
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Thankyou NOTurTypical for all your responses. They are helpful.


You are welcome, do your research brother, do Goggle searches about "Lord Maitreya is the antichrist" or simply "Maitreya is the antichrist" and you'll be astounded. Also do those searches on YouTube.

This man is pure evil, he comes as a mon of love and peace just like scripture tells us, but when the first comes claiming to be God we are NOT to follow him, even in the face of many "miracles". The first to come is the impostor.

I'll be glad to help in any other questions, I do not claim to know everything, but Prophecy has been my major department of study for over a decade.

The time for this is right on our doorstep, btw, the next Jewish 7 year period begins this year on October 14th.



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reply posted on 12-8-2008 @ 10:47 PM by For(Home)Country


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Okaayyy wow. After just reading for 2 mins about this "Lord Maitreya", he seems to be everything that fits in with what the bible describes as the anti christ. I read your other stuff, NOTurTypical, but I found another website that was slightly easier to read, and really to the point, which can be found here.
Scary stuff.

The only thing that I'm sketchy about is that he doesn't seem to nearly have enough power in the world to become a world leader, like the antichrist is supposed to. But maybe he'll strike yet. Scary stuff. Say, an assassination took place and this man died. Do you think that would derail the world a couple of years? I dunno, that question just popped into my head.


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reply posted on 12-8-2008 @ 10:47 PM by mIke.




What was moral is now wrong and ridiculed, what was wrong is now OK and promoted.

Am I the only one who has noticed?






Yea I even remember hearing that in WWII during and after a battle (Iwo Jima) they would have preists there to give soldiers communion and pray for them but I dont recall seeing that again after WWII especially now in the current war,also the 1940's and 50's where really perhaps the better American times and theres a big difference from how things were back in the 50's and now in the 2000's,and theres probably many things and people to blame for these hard times now (G.W.Bush...) etc.... So basiclly its like were in a downward spiral now with all these economic problems and etc.



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reply posted on 12-8-2008 @ 10:50 PM by NOTurTypical


Originally posted by cormag
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the devil son being born at the end of the century, u will not find it in a scripture. oh the part where i said the anti christ would be the opposite of a jew, was a theory i heard. but wat "restrains" him r the 4 horsemen. the world doesnt end until they come. so i'm assuming after the 3 1/2 years of peace the 4 horsemen will come and the anti christ will bring the world to it's knees.


Sorry my friend, I do not put any faith into prophecies that are not Biblical. Biblical ones have never erred.

And the 4 horsemen are not the restrainer, the 4 horsemen are the first 4 "seals" being opened. The restrainer is the Holy Spirit indwelled in Christians on Earth. Meaning, unless they are "removed" then he cannot come as a man of peace to deceive the world, you'd have a Billion people on Earth screaming out: "HE'S THE ANTICHRIST!!!!!!"

The occult side also says that "these people", meaning people who will never accept the antichrist must be removed first, "taken to another dimension".

The rapture of the church is the restrainer being removed, it's not a literal restrainer, but a figurative one. Meaning he cannot present himself to deceive the world that he is God when Christians are still on the planet.

Remember, BOTH sides are waiting on the rapture.

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reply posted on 12-8-2008 @ 10:55 PM by NOTurTypical


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But remember brother who truly "runs" this world... the Illuminati, they will give him that power. And with his false miracles he will deceive the world into believing himself to be God. Just read about his "Day of Declaration" Those will even convince the most devout atheist that he is in fact God.

Read the seminar notes from "HOUSE OF THEOSOPHY SEMINAR WHICH REVEALS PLANS FOR LAST STAGES OF NEW WORLD ORDER"

The other side is telling you the EXACT same thing about this man. The other side has all the power in this world, and they will freely give it to him when the time is right. When the Christians are removed.

Here

*looking at your site now*



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reply posted on 12-8-2008 @ 11:06 PM by DarksDeception


Originally posted by For(Home)Country
reply to post by TH3ON3



Thank you, that is interesting. A part of me hopes your right. Sometimes, I think I'm selfish because I don't want Jesus to come back JUST YET. I still have alot of life to experience, get married, go to University, have a family, have a career, and of course, make an actual difference for God in someones life. I'm almost derailing my own thread here, but has anyone else ever wished this too?


Thanks for the cool thread!

All I can say, is Jesus said to keep watch! This I do, as best I can see and feel!

We can all see, but do we all feel this anticipation of things all coming together, in theses end times, as Christ said "His sheep will know"

Dont get me wrong, but the things you state as important in your life, are the blinkers! The blinkers of self! he has to be at the top of your list!

When you know He is all that you have, you will then know He is all that you need!

So it doesnt matter when, if you are part of His Body? Stay close to Him, this is your only protection from deception!

But I will say, I believe we are VERY close to the begining of the ends times!

The puzzle pieces are all on the table right now!

Anyway, thats just my opinion!

LOVE!



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reply posted on 12-8-2008 @ 11:34 PM by For(Home)Country


Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by For(Home)Country

But remember brother who truly "runs" this world... the Illuminati, they will give him that power. And with his false miracles he will deceive the world into believing himself to be God. Just read about his "Day of Declaration" Those will even convince the most devout atheist that he is in fact God.

Read the seminar notes from "HOUSE OF THEOSOPHY SEMINAR WHICH REVEALS PLANS FOR LAST STAGES OF NEW WORLD ORDER"

The other side is telling you the EXACT same thing about this man. The other side has all the power in this world, and they will freely give it to him when the time is right. When the Christians are removed.

Here

*looking at your site now*



Wow, thanks for the link on the House of Theosophy. Revealing, really, but what happens if that is off, and none of that takes place in the next 2 years? (It said it would happen between 1985 and 2010)
Also, who in the world could call themselves a christian if they let their religion merge with all the others? That doesn't make sense to me. As much as I can respect people believing other religions if they choose not to believe Christianity, I would certainly not "merge" with islam.
Another question I have also: If these occult and Illuminati have this all planned out, and are expecting the rapture of the christians, that would mean they would believe in Jesus christ, so why would they do all these bad things? If they know God is God, and the Bible is truth, wouldn't they just want to believe?



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reply posted on 12-8-2008 @ 11:52 PM by xxpigxx


Originally posted by NOTurTypical


That was impossible, Israel wasn't a state at that time, that is a precursor. In fact Jesus says himself that the "generation that witnesses Israel become a nation will be the generation that will see the end of days."



That would be the baby boomer generation. Considering that the average life span is 70-80 years, that would place the end of days between 2010 and 2020, depending on where the baby boomer age is started.

Concidence that this links up with the Tetrad (solar/lunar eclipse cycles) that line up with feasts?

Exciting!



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