I'm not playing it close to the chest, I'm just stumped. I did notice something interesting in the page source though.

nput tpe="hidden" nme="threadnum" vlue="9"

nput tpe="hidden" nme="question" vlue="11"

(not actual code, edited to make it show up)


Maybe it is a hint that this clue has something to do with 9/11, why else would they leave that code in the source if it isn't useful?


[edit on 19-8-2008 by DraconianKing]

Based on this...

AND FINALLY IT WILL BE OBSERVED THAT THE MISSING COMPONENT IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN WHAT IS SEEN.

This below, is seeing what was not seen, minus that which what was previsously seen.



Interesting to note that there are 26 unseen (seen now) dots, which is precisely the number of usually seen letters in the English alphabet.

[edit on 20-8-2008 by Zarniwoop]

Originally posted by DraconianKing
nput tpe="hidden" nme="threadnum" vlue="9"
nput tpe="hidden" nme="question" vlue="11"

The previous HTML had those fields, too, except 'threadnum' wasn't hidden -- and 'question' changed 1-10 with each puzzle. Maybe the default value '9' for the hidden threadnum field is a little joke; maybe it's a clue? It would depend on the question='11' coincidence, though, if it was a clue...

Like DraconianKing, I'm not trying to be more silent on this one, I'm just reeling at all the possibilities that could be used to solve this thing.

Here are my thoughts to date:

* I believe the fact that there are 26 blacked out dots or squares is significant
* I believe the file names are significant as they each vary in length, but with no set pattern that I can see. Below are the names for each glyph with the count of characters in the filename in parenthesis:

32424003 (8)
123687893450 (12)
3409837421237 (13)
875468 (6)
876545711111 (12)
7823408345280124671515 (22)
234560054 (9)
09933121222209 (14)
6737892487702345345344 (22)
123978576458576586465 (21)

* The thought had occurred to me that since a variety of techniques were employed to solve each of the 10 previous puzzles that maybe this, the final puzzle, might be so difficult as to require a little but of each technique in order to solve this one.

For example, look at how the first three sets of glyphs are "symmetrical" if you rotate the 1st or 3rd glyph in the second set on it's horizontal axis. You would have the following numbers for missing dots:

2, 13, 2
19, 11, 19 (or 2, 11, 2)
8, 20, 8

That reminds me of the RGB channels in puzzle four where the Red and Blue channels were always the same.

I know it's a stretch, but I'm trying to consider all of the possibilities here.

It could work if the puzzle is incomplete like I think it is or if the numbers are there merely to distract us.

That's about it, really. I still haven't found an approach that seems at all promising. But I felt the need to acknowledge that I'm still looking.

Same here, nothing promising at all. I hope we can do it before a clue needs to be given.

This is probably irrelevant but I just wanted to point out that the large "What is the conspiracy?" banner that was at the top of the main ATS page has now been removed.

Originally posted by Freenrgy2
After all, the practice puzzle said "Solving this glyph provides advantage upon final puzzle". And this is the FINAL puzzle.

Hmm! I had forgotten about that. I'll have to go back and analyze that puzzle some more.

I've been trying various things, but with nothing that's leading to any 'ah-ha!' moments... so I've been looking at previous puzzles a little closer, seeing if there's anything we've been missing.

A strange thing is that there seems to be a shift in the cipher alphabet in various puzzles that follow the same pattern, at different points in the text. Maybe this is significant? For example, puzzle #8:

Input text: "d-w-w-v-j-z -h-s-x-b -e-m-g-x-o -e-l-e-y- o-n-r-f-t- h-x-u-q-s-"
Input alphabet "abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz"
...
a-s-r-p-c-r -y-i-m-p -r-y-r-h-x -m-s-k-d- s-q-t-g-t- g-v-r-m-n- (mult=25, ofs=23)
government
b-t-s-q-d-s -z-j-n-q -s-z-s-i-y -n-t-l-e- t-r-u-h-u- h-w-s-n-o- (mult=25, ofs=24)
installed throughout
c-u-t-r-e-t -a-k-o-r -t-a-t-j-z -o-u-m-f- u-s-v-i-v- i-x-t-o-p- (mult=25, ofs=25)
counterfeit backdoor

The cipher alphabet shifted one extra position in the middle of the third word ('stealthily').

The same thing was true for puzzle #5; even though the first letters were given, the cipher followed a straight sequence, only shifting at two points in the phrase.

I don't know if this is significant. I have been looking at those filenames and see if I can make sense in them.

Glyph Set Glyph Set Filenames Previous Puzzle Filenames
#1 32424003 sjskwiiw991919
#2 123687893450 a9oeb3
#3 23409837421237 993jsuwvaauh
#4 875468 8uhnbsgt62bs
#5 876545711111 09djnc63jsnxhswnns
#6 7823408345280124671515 77susjlh9
#7 234560054 9i77ysysw
#8 09933121222209 (?)
#9 6737892487702345345344 88usjywwyshsns
#10 123978576458576586465 fdsunasdn8222

[edit on 22-8-2008 by Deaf Alien]

[edit on 22-8-2008 by Deaf Alien]

Can we make a list of the conspiracies we have seen through this game, maybe somehow the answer is tied into the past ones in some type of overall something

All i know to say to yall is good luck

REMEMBER HOWEVER

Each puzzle unlocked these codes so they in some way have to be assosiated with the puzzle they were a part of it.

Keep up the good work... i've been checking twice daily to see if anyone has solved it. it is a tough one