African American soldier/mercenary has been captured by Russian forces

African American soldier/mercenary has been captured by Russian forces

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The Russian news website Izvestia is reporting that an African American soldier/mercenary has been captured by Russian forces. He was captured with a number of Georgian soldiers, whose specialty was in handling ordinances. The report mentions that they believe he is a Nato instructor, and that he has been transferred to the Russian base of Vladikavkaz.

(visit the link for the full news article)

So this would provide proof that the U.S has been providing aid to Georgia "unofficially"?
If so,the relationship between the U.S and Russia is likly to get worse.
Between the missle defence shield and now this,things could become complicated in the near future.

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(visit the link for the full news article)

Well if true, you had better hope that the Russians 'play nice' and dont do a Gitmo on any captured US/Israeli forces.

So much for GW Bush's policy of torture. It seems that the chickens could possibly be coming home to roost.

reply to post by Wotan


The trouble is, the person who might get "special interrogation methods" in this instance, won't be someone from the administration. Like happens in war, and in peace, the leaders make the rules, and the citizens pay the price.

Originally posted by NGC2736
reply to post by Wotan

 

The trouble is, the person who might get "special interrogation methods" in this instance, won't be someone from the administration. Like happens in war, and in peace, the leaders make the rules, and the citizens pay the price.

Sadly you may be right. The politicians never seem to see the consequences of their knee-jerk reactions.

You can bet that Bush & Co. will be the first ones complaining about torture methods if it does prove true.

The Russians stand to gain nothing by torturing an American soldier, though. If it holds to be true, he'll be used as a political pawn in a game of international chess, and nothing more.

he probably is a blackwater employee...

I think Bush is serving up Georgia to the Russians in exchange for Iran. If we do not get deeply involved in Georgia, will Russia ignore Iran when we attack?

You may be suprised and they 'may' be black Israelis (both the bodies and captured personell).

Israel has been very active in Georgia in the last 4 years. VERY active. (They have a big Georgian Jewish lobby in Israel).

Originally posted by Fathom
he probably is a blackwater employee...

naturally. i mean come on .. black guy.. black water? makes sense.

Im kidding. but you know, the Soviets had the reputation of being BRUTAL interrogators and torturers all throughout the Cold War. Just thnk of all of the movies from the 1970's, 1980's, and 1990's that centered on Russian bad guys torturing their captives? lol .. Rambo? hello?

So yeah, if he doesn't speak what they want to hear, I bet he would be subjected to techniques of a "non torturous" nature, as defined by the regime administering the torture, just like the USA in Gitmo.

However, Russia knows it would by their arse if they harmed the guy, so they probably wont. Plus Russia knows if they kill many western citizens, particularly american and european citizens in Georgia, they'll have a bigger problem on their hands. Russia is not ready to go World Wr III.. they do not have the conventional forces to do it. I doubt they're going to bust out the nukes over this..

I wouldn't be surprised. I am a partial believer in the theory that the USA is going to move away from the failed "war on terror" to a new "cold war" with Russia to feed the military industrial complex and to continue to erode the liberties and rights of US citizens.

I think there is a possibility that the US is going to be sending in 'undercover' troops knowing full well they will be caught and that it will heighten tensions between our nations. Just like the feudal empires of old the powers that be will keep us in check by keeping us in fear of the next big attack, be it terrorist of nuclear.

Birdman you seem very certain that those captured by Russian forces will not be tortured, lets hope for their sake you are right. Countering your point, look at the numbers of people the US has tortured in the 'war on terror' how many of those do you think had little or nothing to offer the US in terms of intelligence?

U.S. soldiers teach Georgian soldiers how to deal with unexploded ordinance as part of the Georgia Train and Equip Program. Under the program, the U.S. Defense Department is training and equipping four specialized battalions, one company-sized team, and about 200 staff officers in georgia. U.S. defense officials say improving the Georgian military will ultimately aid the American war on global terrorism. Photo by Senior Airman Latonia L. Brown, USAF

Well no duh. A soldier/mercenary has been captured. There was a reason he was there in the first place.
Army Special Forces are all mercenaries. When a soldier is sent overseas for training and cross training, they are mercenaries. That simple.

reply to post by deltaboy


err no , he/she is still an employee of the US Armt (pr airforce or navy) and thus is a representative of the USA - and is not a merc.

Originally posted by Harlequin
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err no , he/she is still an employee of the US Armt (pr airforce or navy) and thus is a representative of the USA - and is not a merc.

Well, that depends ...... do not be surprised if Bush & Co. 'disown them' as official US Military personnel.

Originally posted by Wotan
Well if true, you had better hope that the Russians 'play nice' and dont do a Gitmo on any captured US/Israeli forces.

So much for GW Bush's policy of torture. It seems that the chickens could possibly be coming home to roost.

Umm could you name a single theatre our soldiers have been in, either unofficially or officially, in which those soldiers who were captured were not tortured?

Even One in the last 80 years?

Originally posted by deltaboy

U.S. soldiers teach Georgian soldiers how to deal with unexploded ordinance as part of the Georgia Train and Equip Program. Under the program, the U.S. Defense Department is training and equipping four specialized battalions, one company-sized team, and about 200 staff officers in georgia. U.S. defense officials say improving the Georgian military will ultimately aid the American war on global terrorism. Photo by Senior Airman Latonia L. Brown, USAF

Well no duh. A soldier/mercenary has been captured. There was a reason he was there in the first place.
Army Special Forces are all mercenaries. When a soldier is sent overseas for training and cross training, they are mercenaries. That simple.

Army SF are NOT Mercenaries.
What a crock of crap. Thats like saying SAS BG teams going into Oman and training their body guards are mercenaries. Thats 100% wrong. the SAS team are still UK forces. That works for every nations forces including Green Beret training teams that were in georgia.

Originally posted by Shazam The Unbowed

Originally posted by Wotan
Well if true, you had better hope that the Russians 'play nice' and dont do a Gitmo on any captured US/Israeli forces.

So much for GW Bush's policy of torture. It seems that the chickens could possibly be coming home to roost.

Umm could you name a single theatre our soldiers have been in, either unofficially or officially, in which those soldiers who were captured were not tortured?

Even One in the last 80 years?

I am not disputing the fact that soldiers have been tortured in past conflicts. I am talking about the hipocracy of GW Bush saying that torture at Gitmo and other US Concentration Camps is okay and that he will be the first one to condemn its use against any US persons that are captured in the Georgian/Russian conflict.

reply to post by Harlequin


But...but...but he IS a merc, says so in the article by the Russian newspaper.

reply to post by Wotan


You said "GW's chickens are coming home to roost". But the fact is regardless of whether america does, or does not, torture, use enhanced interrogation methods, or engage in extraordinary rendition; our soldiers will be tortured when captured, because we dont send our soldiers after nice people.

The Major must have missed something. Where exactly is confirmation of this by anybody? Could someone please direct the Major to a picture, or better yet, one of those miserable YouTube videos showing this individual and some evidence that he has ties to the West? Heck, every sorry reprobate in Iraq with an internet connection can manage to post a video, the Major is pretty sure the Ruskies could string together a couple of tomato cans and manage to do the same. That is unless they are well into their cups after such a "stunning" victory. Nothing like a vodka binge after slaughtering countless civilians because you don't have the tactical wherewithal to to hit legitimate targets. The Major has digressed; quit your hand wringing and doom saying for just a minute until the dust settles and a few facts rise up.

Dismissed.