Originally posted by blupblup
lol

We definitely should have a way of recognizing one another.
Mod's, can't you sort us all out a t-shirt or hat of some sort in case of an emergency like this?

Good thread btw

LOL...wearing an ATS t-shirt could very well be worse than 'thee mark ov thee beast.' Especially after the news that the alphabet agencies were snooping around on here for Bruce Ivins... you got out into a post-SitX world wearing an ATS shirt, you'll be the first one shot dead by the NWO mercenaries or hauled off to camp by the secret police.

Really, though...I don't think you CAN keep the ATS network together off-line. The Internet is what makes ATS possible. If anything, this site should inspire us to do our own flesh-and-blood networking - maybe including some local ATSers - because in the event of a real emergency, your friends across the country or on the other side of the ocean won't do you much good if you are cut off from all communication.

I think the survivalists are on the right track, even though I'm not hard core like they are. And I think it doesn't hurt to have close friends you can count on in an emergency, maybe even a network of like minded individuals with plans and meeting places established "just in case." But I don't think the ATS community could translate as a whole to the hard world... though I see how the ATS influence could have a positive effect in building post-SitX communities once TSHTF.

A simple......."Are you a member of ATS?" might do....

We are a simple folk



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Originally posted by MischeviousElf
Good idea,
Indeed how about the T symbol? as in time out, one hand open, outside of hand facing away from member vertically, with other hand placed horizontally on top creating the classic "time out" symbol?
Elf.

You make it too easy.

And boring.

ATS Secret Society (A..S..S..es or more secretly known as 'brother/sister donkeys) may identify themselves by means of immediate spontaneous performance of their choice of the following:

a) The Chicken Dance
b) The Macarena
c) The Robot
d) The Bartman
e) The YMCA
or, for moderators
f) a combination of two or more of the above
or for site owners,
f) an extended routine containing elements of all of the above.

Talk about drunken fun...

If the worse case scenario happens, I don't see a problem for fellow ATS'ers finding one another. I don't think we will even have to look that hard. In fact I think the Government will even help us find each other.

Just look around the Dention Camp you are in and you will find us.

Originally posted by trusername
Ways To Connect With Other ATSers Without The WWW And Without Opening Yourself Up To Non-ATSers

- ATS gear: T-shirts, Pins, Rings, Unofficial T-shirts with handwritten ATS, mis matching color socks (red and black if possible),

- Gestures: Sign language for ATS or /\T with hands like an A that slides into a time out

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OK, I kinda love the idea behind this thread but its almost starting to sound a bit too elitist, so let me play the devil's advocate. Do you really want to define yourself entirely by ATS membership? You may very well likely find a great many kind, intelligent, caring and resourceful individuals who even share some of your concerns, skepticism or speculations about the government etc. on 'the outside' ... perhaps even more than there are ATS members. And as we've all seen on all too many threads, there are plenty of people on ATS many of us would NOT want to deal with in a post-civilization situation. Wherever you stand, you have undoubtedly run across posters who seem completely backwards, delusional, wrong or downright evil...from your own perspective, of course, but we all come from one.

Yeah, I think ATS can be useful for those with dissenting opinions to meet others and share ideas, but due to the sheer variety of opinions represented on ATS, I don't think that defining your self or your community entirely by ATS membership is the best idea in the world. We all have our own conspiracy theories, pet speculations and personal beliefs about reality ...and while you might find a good number who are on similar wavelengths via ATS, I think that in the long run and on the grand scale that any sort of SHTF situation would entail, membership of this web site would be a very minor factor in deciding who is one whose side.

Then again maybe all of this is quite obvious and I'm just thinking too much about it.

I really have to agree with the last few posts asking, why don't you just ask? Sure, meeting someone who is an ATS member creates a sort of automatic trust, at least to a certain degree... there's no big secret here, so why be afraid to ask? If the gov't really wanted to go after YOU, they could have already hunted you down and eliminated you by now. why not trust a stranger who's just trying to survive like you are?

But as I have mentioned, I don't think we should avoid or think less of those who aren't ATS members. There are probably alot of people "on our side" who have simply never had any inclination to visit this site or may never have been aware of it.

But I don't think the ATS community could translate as a whole to the hard world... though I see how the ATS influence could have a positive effect in building post-SitX communities once TSHTF.

I see your point. It would have to be one avenue towards sanity in a topsy turvy world. But it wouldn't be the same. Hopefully, TS Will Never HTF.

Originally posted by jwstarry

If the worse case scenario happens, I don't see a problem for fellow ATS'ers finding one another. I don't think we will even have to look that hard. In fact I think the Government will even help us find each other.

Just look around the Dention Camp you are in and you will find us.

Very Funny! And we're all thinking it too! gulp

Originally posted by shipovfools

You make it too easy.

And boring.

ATS Secret Society (A..S..S..es or more secretly known as 'brother/sister donkeys) may identify themselves by means of immediate spontaneous performance of their choice of the following:

a) The Chicken Dance
b) The Macarena
c) The Robot
e) The YMCA

I LOVE IT - my fear is that all French people will be taken for ATS members when they dance all of these at French weddings

Originally posted by shipovfools

OK, I kinda love the idea behind this thread but its almost starting to sound a bit too elitist, so let me play the devil's advocate. Do you really want to define yourself entirely by ATS membership?

I really have to agree with the last few posts asking, why don't you just ask? Sure, meeting someone who is an ATS member creates a sort of automatic trust, at least to a certain degree... there's no big secret here, so why be afraid to ask?

There are probably alot of people "on our side" who have simply never had any inclination to visit this site or may never have been aware of it.

It does slip into elitism too smoothly doesn't it. That should be consciously avoided. How sad if TSHTF before I joined ATS! But, I would still seek out like minded people.

Personally, I wouldn't be able to define myself entirely by ATS membership. I have other definitions ... like mom, wife, boss, occasionally bossy mom / bossy wife ... and I have other memberships, so this association would be comforting but not restricting. But, I see your point.

Being a power lounger, I usually go for the most convenient whenever possible. When it comes to just asking if people are members, I think that makes great sense. But you may kiss a lot of frogs before you get your princes. There are situations where you may not have time or opportunity to ask everyone around to find the few ATSers in the crowd.

And there are times where it's awkward to ask directly. Or say there are members who are in a position to stand in front of crowds and with a simple gesture show they are "on our side" as you put it, without freaking out all those who don't understand ATS. We know other groups do it.

For me, personally, it's not so much a fear of being discovered as a conspiracy theorist. Everyone I know, knows I am. It's more a dread of being scolded for thinking outside the box by long winded, non-conspiracy theorists. Also, I find pleasure in avoiding glazed, wide eyed, live to shop, conformists and I love meeting inquisitive, seekers willing to engage in intelligent debate or just agree with my wild sentiments.

But I especially love discovering people who are interested in pyramids or 911 or aliens... where I don't expect them. At my mechanics, a news editor, a Chevron office employee! We're everywhere - but some are shyer that others. And some may not want it overheard that they love this stuff. It's ok when you talk one on one. But say you leave, and the other person is left surrounded by office mates who are shocked. Then, a hand signal would have been better




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Well there are many different things that could be used for identification...

Deny Ignorance in Latin is Denego Ignarus

so we could mumble that quickly quietly when meeting someone.

Perhaps a certain symbol could be drawn on the left arm?

Or something that only a fellow atser would notice, perhaps, when shaking their hand, hold onto your upper right arm with your left hand.

maybe when making eye contact with the person, you look up (with your eyes only) and then look back at them quickly?

Perhaps at the long range, ats members could be distinguished by holding their left hand in their left pocket?

just some simple things i could think of...

Originally posted by trusername
OK So far here's what's been suggested by all of you:

Ways To Connect With / Distinguish Other ATSers Without The Web

- ATS gear: T-shirts, Pins, Rings, Unofficial T-shirts with handwritten ATS, mis matching color socks (red and black if possible), tiny ATS bumper sticker, Brandishing ATS Tattoos or scarlet letters

- Gestures: Sign language for ATS or /\T with hands like an A that slides into a time out, pencil tapping ATS in morse code (which is dot dash / dot / dot dot dot)

- A Direct Question: Like "Are you a member of ATS" and the correct response is "You mean Above Top Secret?" And the incorrect answer is "What's ATS"

- ATSers in the Media: Could start by saying: "Now here's a real story!"

- Meeting places: ATS might start providing maps for threads where users can put in pin locations (with a large general area - not home address) and like minded people could consider if they want meet up.

- If TSHTF Meeting Places: Noon 2 days into (and, let's say, any/every Saturday after) an "event" (like a long-term blackout) at small towns' cemeteries or in front of large cities' main libraries

- If TSHTF - playing (or living) "lost it" and mumbling "Above Top Secret - I told you so..." loudly to yourself. (This may or may not get desired results)

- Long range communication: Pre-determine a Radio station frequency we all tune into for ATS announcements

- use a ham radio, a CB during "Scatter", "Skip", "DX" can get out all over the world. A radio such as a Cobra 148 GTL, has a channel where a lot of international traffic calls out just to find out if they are heard long range. It's on the "Lower Side" of channel 38, or "38 LSB". For example say "CQ DX! CQ DX! Alpha Tango Sierra (pick a #), Omaha Nebraska trying!" Search 27.555 in youtube or DX Super Sunday. Use a car to jump start radio.

- Randomly calling out Alpha Tango Sierra or using as a tester if you're checking microphones

- Giving cell # to MODs, and getting them to find and connect us all

- Creating a Crisis Tree for ATS - people call 5 people who call 5 people etc. so no one has everyone's #

- Beacons: with mirrors or lights that would brighten a blacked out sky, banners spelling out ATS on a hillside to indicate a meeting spot

- In advance: Start local "ATSer Connect" chapters / get togethers

- See how many ATSers are near you (using the Pins on maps at ATS or by starting a thread to see who's local). Next figure out who is interested / an expert in what. Who is prepared for what. Also, perhaps discuss who and how many you'd be likely to count on if a "need" should ever arise to protect your collective personal freedom. And to discuss, calmly, how you'd see that playing out.

- To consider: This thread is now on the top of the home page and is open for all web browsers to see. It's easy to say we have nothing to hide. Still, if this concept threatens some non ATSers or seems too radical. ATSer face to face gatherings could meet with uncomfortable crashers. There may be a benefit to ... confirming at least a familiarity with the ATS.com BUT this creates an elitism that is un ATS-like... so we all need to consider how to resolve this.

- To consider: You may have boldly disagreed with another ATSer only to discover you live nearby. So, face to face meetings should probably be first in groups and people could indicate their favorite threads before displaying their avatars to avoid initial awkward confrontation.

- To consider: Just because an ATSer shows himself / herself to you, obviously, you don't have to do so in turn, if it doesn't feel right.

- Organic connecting: For those who "didn't get the memo", Or just never heard of ATS but like the concept ... A welcoming attitude needs to be balanced with suspicion

- Mass ATS gatherings: Craigslist and ATS Flash mobs, seeking out each other at Burning Man or The Love Parade...

- Include other conspiracy sites

Here might not be a good place to discuss finding others like "us"

In a global disaster with maybe more than 50% or more of the worlds population killed we might have a witch hunt situation with people coming after us. And I would bet money on it you'll find the "opposition" on this board and probably itching to find out our "secret handshake".

Paranoid? Probably. Realistic? Quite possibly.