Problems with the U2U database -- some messages are lost, page 1
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reply posted on 10-8-2008 @ 01:05 PM by MischeviousElf
Bill Thanks for telling us and the hard work,

Good Luck getting the data back.

Now Given the strange incident when it crashed this morning, and also the ATS system that appears to be compromised do you believe this is "normal" bugs in the machine?

It is apparent that as very little personally identifiable data, and sharing of private information is very scarce on the Boards, due to the nature of ATS and its topics posters;
Therefore the only real way for ATS members to network and give email address and other info to other members for growth, networking and affiliation of like minded views, is therefore the U2U system.

Given the current world events, the % of members on ATS who probably have, or are involved in Direct Action (non violent :-) and of an only lobbyist, or information sharing way!) the timing to me seems to indicate that there is a "intelligence" behind this (I was going to say Higher but... mmm ahem not soo!) and a reason that this has happened?

The ability of the Network, to allow such disparate groups and individuals, who none the less have common ground across a broad range of issues to communicate or "meet" properly for the first time is probably unparalleled anywhere else on the web, here at ATS.

Given this, and the type of U2U ATS has, with no attachment ability, plain text and web based on your own servers, am I correct in saying that in fact this could be an attempt to discourage, or break up such a network of contacts.

That also I dare say some of the information exchanged on the U2U basis in ATS may be of a "sensitive" or such like nature that in fact this is being compromised and threatens, is ATS under attack?

And if so is the timing significant or just a normal day at the office for those who have done it/ if such an event has happened!

We all do provide information when we join up to ATS, in addition to this when I joined a Web Based email address was not usable, you had to have a Contract Based email e.g. @bt.co.uk or such like. Is that information that was provided to ATS secure, could someone who has compromised the u2u system also have seen my account info, or details from joining that would provide to them, given their abilities, to easily locate previous or current address's and names etc?

It does not matter that much, as in, how could it have happened etc, ATS let us down, if such a thing has happened, but we deserve the truth and you know more than most how important it is for some people here to know if such information is compromised, seriously some peoples lively-hoods or even lives could be in danger!

Obviously depending on what or from where they posted, but that is a very real possibility, the amnesty site alone is testament to that!

Many members may have the fear that if their ATS privacy was compromised, and because of what we write about, personal experiences etc, well that information could be used to create a link, to previous affiliations, experiences and actions!

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Strangely enough I nearly contacted a mod last week (which look at my history I don't except to say like ATS down, or thanks etc) because a few strange things happened after I made a post.

Should I be concerned about A place in Texas name starts with Fort?

lots of attempted hacking onto my PC from their last week, much much!

More than I have ever had and online since 32 k modems!

My laptop was stolen the next day!

The police thought it was very strange indeed, very very very quick and silent, someone was in the house at the time!!!

I just ignored it, thought about for like 10 seconds, thought the paranoid ibee geebes where upon me! Also my passport and driving license, but the wallet was left !!! next to the laptop!!!!!

Has anyone else had a laptop Computer stolen in the last week and massive hacking attempts?


I/We certainly need to know Bill!

Kind Regards

Elf.

Elf Edit so it can be read!

[edit on 10-8-2008 by MischeviousElf]



reply posted on 10-8-2008 @ 01:49 PM by MischeviousElf
reply to post by SkepticOverlord



Thank you very much for the quick reply indeed when you must be soo busy Sceptic.

1,2,3 does go to four in our heads sometimes, but was a lot of unusual stuff at once!

Im so glad that it appears to be such a minor glitch, and not a Hack.

This has me pondering....

Our Information is held in the US yes?

If say for example in a little thought exercise persons currently in S.Assetia quickly went south and joined with say Iran,

And Mr Bush was then to invoke one of his many many new powers...

Well in that situation I am concerned that maybe there is not a back up for members privacy, in such an event im very sure your servers would be looked at extremely quickly!

Without adding to you headache Sceptic whats the possibility of a cyanide button in our Member area ?

Indeed what are your obligations to such authorities if requested by them?

Kind Regards

Elf.


reply posted on 10-8-2008 @ 02:09 PM by Shugo
reply to post by SkepticOverlord



Hmmm...oops. I didn't do it on purpose I swear!
(Okay, it may not have been me, but it sounds like it)


reply posted on 10-8-2008 @ 02:32 PM by LiquidMirage
reply to post by SkepticOverlord




Bill please don’t let the entire board go down. I don’t want to go through ATS withdrawal symptoms!




reply posted on 10-8-2008 @ 02:38 PM by weedwhacker
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SO, hope I didn't do it!!

Asked Springer a question, but could be co-incidence.

Good luck!


reply posted on 10-8-2008 @ 02:39 PM by ProTo Fire Fox
reply to post by LiquidMirage



Tell me about it, i tryed to get on this morning and did'nt know what to do when it said maintaince, luckly for me i remembered that i love TinWiki so i went there.

Bill -- I know you said that there are 1.2million U2U's to check, but any idea about a time period? 3 days ? a week ? I dont U2U a lot, but I'm sure some members will be curious on this.

Fox


reply posted on 10-8-2008 @ 03:51 PM by rachel07
reply to post by SkepticOverlord



It is strange. I am one of the members to have lost my messages on U2U. Is it possible that whatever caused the problem with the U2U could have come in from outside? Could there have been some kind of hack into the messages that were being sent back and forth from members of ATS?

I am just asking these questions, as in the past, my phone line has been tapped. Since, I rarely use the phone now, the taps have ceased.

Also, with more and more people using the internet and emails to communicate, wouldn't it be possible for the government, or authorities to tap into and bug messaging systems on various sites and personal emails?

The way I see it, if they can tap into a phone line, a computer would be easy pickings. Especially, if they have top notch hackers on their team.


reply posted on 10-8-2008 @ 05:13 PM by whitewave
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Wow, SO. You guys are seriously cool. I thought this was just some regular discussion forum but you guys take your business way above top (secret). Very comforting to know.

I will just remain curled up in a fetal position in the corner of my room, sucking my thumb and crying like a little girl until the U2U function is restored. Not that I'm addicted or anything. I can quit anytime. *whimper*
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