Originally posted by tututkamen
There is a trucking company in Phoenix Az. and run all there equipment on recycled veg oil from resturants deep fry'ers.
Wish I had a link for you, your just gonna have to trust me on this one.
Solutions are much needed, there were also Welsh diesel-owners who did the same but received citations from law-enforcement (source: NPR, 2002).
Apparently, the material is a highly polluting fuel. And unfortunately it is doubtful that such hydrocarbons could ever replace even a small
percentage of petrocarbon usage. How efficient is it to grow cereal using petroleum-intensive farming methods, transport it, then extract the oil?
Certainly, a much more energy-efficient means must be developed or nothing will come of the idea. The only way it is in operation to a tiny degree
now is that recycled oils are obtained "free" from deep fryer waste. And besides the pollution and awful smell, it is dubious that the fuel does
much for the long-term operation of an engine designed for diesel.
QUOTE (groingrinder): "Does not the government pay farmers a subsidy NOT TO GROW crops on some of their land? Is that an urban myth? Seems to me
there is alot of land unfarmed that could be used to grow crops that would provide the vegetable oil needed."
True, there are subsidies to farmers for fallow land. Of course, the overwhelming bulk of arable acreage is in production for profitable crops.
While often they are scarcely worth the effort to harvest due to commodity markets, large operations (READ: burning much fuel) and using
petroleum-derived pesticides can make profits. In order for them to maintain profit, hence viability to operate, they must sell crops at a sufficient
price. Are farmers expected to foot the bill for cheap fuel? You can bet the farm that those ol' boys would want to take you hunting twice and
bring you back once.
QUOTE (tutenkamen): "On June 9-12, however, a Hedberg Conference will be held in London with the theme "Origin of Petroleum -- Biogenic and/or
Abiogenic and Its Significance in Hydrocarbon Exploration and Production."
Certainly it would be an industrial age wet dream for the Earth to produce all the hydrocarbons we could ever pump. But all it amounts to is gaseous
exhalations. Sure, the crystalline basement rock is producing hydrocarbons, though all gas, with the inclusion of helium. The latter material is
noble and is useless for energy unless fusion can be developed. Other materials are also outgassed from the crust in huge amounts, mercury for one.
And if such vast processes are ongoing, why aren't the presently tapped reserves filling back up? After all, they are ideal places for oil to
accumulate, beneath impervious geologic structures.
The sources cited earlier are indicative of worldwide peak oil production occuring in 2000. Despite rising demand and prices, why doesn't all the
postulated petrocarbon production just fill 'er up? The organic origin of commercial reserves is very well established not only by fossils but also
geologic sequences. As noted from the AAPG reference, "However, even the Russian scientists he has worked with accept the organic origin of
petroleum found in large, commercial accumulations." And, as Lewan eludicadtes,
"Significant scientific advances over the last 40 years have tested, modified and refined the organic theory for petroleum formation in the Earth's
crust," Lewan said.
"It is unfortunate that Kenney et al. have chosen to ignore these efforts of other competent scientists, and elevate their inorganic theory on the
misconception that the organic theory is based on carbohydrates being the source of petroleum."
And why would oil companies pour lots of money down a hole, literally, on a theory, one that ignores volumes of findings and research? Perhaps once
oil is $100/bbl, it may be profitable for such explorations, that is if the theory is validated.
Reluctantly, I'm finding that an energy crisis of worldwide proportions soon will begin. Though I am generally optimistic, there are no alternatives
widespread enough to be viable, IMHO, that can prevent our economy from suffering greatly. Because petroleum is literally the lifeblood of all facets
of westernized society, expensive oil means expensive everything. Though inflation is not now a problem, it would be symptomatic of these petroleum