Originally posted by heliosprime

Originally posted by Res Ipsa
why I fight fundamentalist on these threads, too many people judging or "detesting" Christianity because they think this type of person (the Op) represents any legitimate form of it.

Good catch re22666.....fight on

Define legitimate? by whos standards........God's or man's? Never said I was "christian"..........few are worthy of being called "christian" because few walk in his footsteps...............especially today................

So i take it you keep slaves, don't eat shellfish and shrimp and only wear cotton and flax clothing.

Like your good book says and states as the standards to follow.

+10 brownie point if you don't eat pork either.

Or are you just another high and mighty hypocrite deluding themselves and passing judgement on others?

Now who cast the first stone.......

You wouldn't happen to be a representative of the westboro baptist church would you? If not, maybe you should look them up, sounds like you have a lot in common.

Hey Re,
Your last posting that mentioned me and my beliefs....left me confused as heck. What were you saying? or more importantly what were you saying I was saying?

Originally posted by ATruGod


So now God was the mastermind who pulled off 9-11?

That's it! Definitive proof. Maybe God is building WMD's in the clouds? We need to bomb heaven to assert our dominance over this "rogue deity."

TheRedneck


....Consistent Christianity is not for the faint of heart my friend. It may be more inclusive then you would be comfortable with.

I included your 2 commandments because that and defining God as Love it encompasses the entire Consistent Christian denomination. I have, I believe, an answer for every moral question. Evil is easily defined. Hell is easily defined. There is not a single contradiction in the CC denomination.


I will give you an example of why it is uncomfortable for many Christians.................................

Lets say you read a book about 911 (topic of this thread) here are the facts portrayed in the book; 1) it happened Sept. 11th 2002. 2) George Bush Sr. was President 3) there were 10 planes involved. 4) Iraq was responsible 5) over 300 people lost their lives that day 6) two huge skyscrapers were destroyed in Chicago. 7) It was a day that changed the world.
Now, I bet you anything that we could find people to disagree on the number of correct statements I made, easily. Most of you would not have any problem what so ever....editing this. or pointing out what is true and what isn't. what is fact and what is opinion. Nobody would criticize you for "picking and choosing" nobody would accuse you of "believing just what you want to believe"
The Bible is such a book. There are truths. There are lessons. There are man made edicts to control the ignorarnt masses. If you understand the nature of God then you will have an easier time picking out the wheat among the weeds........Many "Christians" just freak with this notion of picking and choosing or that the Bible could possibly have "wrong" things in it....after all....IT IS THE WORD OF GOD......not so much.
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But anyway.....if you think you can stump me on any issue or Christian hypocrisy.....throw it at me, after all.....it is Consistent Christianity that I am defending.

what do you guys think if the world had no religion?

To the original poster. God's covenant is only with the House of David. Which is a biological and spiritual reality, while US of America is a legal concept. US of America propertly defined has nothing at all to do with God or his convenant. By becoming a citizen of America for example, does not make you a citizen of the House of David. It is true the Head of the Household of David does live in America, is an American citizen and America is protected by him.

In short God doesn't care about American laws, customs, traditions or history. It is irrelevent. You want gays to marry what does he care. America allows other religions to practice, what does he care. He made no convenant with any of those people anyway; Only David.

As far as your accusation that the House of David is corrupted and no longer in protected by God; You are wrong. The people that are being attacked and killed in this world everday are not the Convenant people, but instead are the ones who have no God, have a false God, and those that don't even know what it means to have a God for whatever reason.

David's kids will be just fine.

Originally posted by dave77
what do you guys think if the world had no religion?

Do you mean some sort of Soviet style genocide and an athiest world?

If so, I think that the religious people should also be able to take with them all that they have contributed to the world throughout history. I think in a world without religion, you'd have a world of animals, feral humans amoung them, that eat and live in filth, communicate by grunts and hoots. and live even shorther less meaningful lives than they already do.

A world without religion would be a large zoo.

Originally posted by riggs2099
Love your version of GOD, hateful and spiteful. I say kill all the religious folk, send them to thier GOD so we don't have to suffer through thier crap

Riggs,

You are confusing spite and hate in this instance with justice. You know what justice is don't you?


The OP has alot of courage starting this thread and he gets my vote.

We are all just a heartbeat away from the truth. Sadly, for most the truth is going to be very terrifying.. beyond their wildest dreams.


As far as the 'one true religion'? Jesus said -I- am the truth, the way, AND the life-NO ONE comes unto the Father except by -ME-.

Jesus also said that He was the word made flesh so you can't divorce what he said from Him.

Believe it or not.. No sweat here.

I believe in Jesus and the Bible because of a personal conviction that came about because of a bad car accident and a dark spiritual experience.. I had a VERY frightening revelation of hell. Believe me, I thought I knew what fear was but was I wrong, it took me a year to get to where I am now.


Believe what you want but at your own peril. We will all die and dying time is truth time. I suggest you figure it out now while you have the chance because when you step out of your body that choice will no longer be available.


Php 2:11 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

He wasn't kidding boys and girls.



Have you really ever seriously wondered about the "what" Jesus is saving us from?


And to steer more closely to topic, I do believe 911 was indeed a wake up call from the Lord Himself. I will elaborate on this more later when I have the time. And what about David's kids being fine? Give me a break.

God didn't even spare Israel from judgment in the past, what makes you think He doesn't care what America is doing now? This nation WILL be judged corporately for it's sins. You can take that to the bank.

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