It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Originally posted by heliosprime
11Yea, all Israel have transgressed thy law, even by departing, that they might not obey thy voice; therefore the curse is poured upon us, and the oath that is written in the law of Moses the servant of God, because we have sinned against him.
www.biblegateway.com...
America is made up of the lost tribes of Israel, and since it has been banning God from schools, allowing homosexual marriage, allowing vile leaders (clinton) to continue...........the actual Sept 11th attacks were just the begining.............
God has cursed america for straying from the commandments and allowing all sorts of vile sins to become popular "culture". By embracing "multiculturalisum" BS. By allowing idloitry such as buddisim, etc, to flurish.............for allowing islam to exist in america..........
Freedom of religion did not mean freedom of worship of false God's.......
Originally posted by heliosprime
Originally posted by riggs2099
EEEEK..A religious nut. Everyone run...before he tells us we are all going to hell. I wonder how you can preach a religion that is supposed to be based on the message of love and have so much hate in your message. Don't care for religion, but maybe you should read your bible a little more....LOVE and all that is in there...I think anyways.
[edit on 9-8-2008 by riggs2099]
If speaking the truth makes me a "nut" then I accept that. America has become a wasteland of evil because of the mis-use of the supreme court to screw up the worship of God.
When the 'supremes" decided they were above God's law and decided to take any "real" reference to God's law away from the schools, etc.
Now america has decended into idol and false god worship of all kinds including abominations like 'same-sex-marriage". It allows islam to be called to prayer to a false god (allah) in our cities...........
Originally posted by Res Ipsa
Speaking for the "Consistent Christian" movement....we
catagoricaly denounce these statements made by the op. They do not represent nor reflect Christianity. Next thread please.
Originally posted by heliosprime
11Yea, all Israel have transgressed thy law, even by departing, that they might not obey thy voice; therefore the curse is poured upon us, and the oath that is written in the law of Moses the servant of God, because we have sinned against him.
www.biblegateway.com...
America is made up of the lost tribes of Israel, and since it has been banning God from schools, allowing homosexual marriage, allowing vile leaders (clinton) to continue...........the actual Sept 11th attacks were just the begining.............
God has cursed america for straying from the commandments and allowing all sorts of vile sins to become popular "culture". By embracing "multiculturalisum" BS. By allowing idloitry such as buddisim, etc, to flurish.............for allowing islam to exist in america..........
Freedom of religion did not mean freedom of worship of false God's.......
Originally posted by SleeplessInUS
I can respect that the OP has his/her own views and beliefs but perhaps spewing hate towards those that do not have those same beliefs is not necessary hmmmm?
Originally posted by re22666
attention ignorant person.
freedom of religion means exactly that. i can worship my tv, pillow, myself, or a golden calf if i so choose. that is what FREEDOM OF RELIGION means.
what i want to know is how people like you explain god cursing the US for allowing gay marriage. what about countries where it was already legal, or where far worse things are legal, like prostitution, child rape, torture, drugs of all kinds. is god letting them all have a pass?
and again, let me point out, freedom of religion means i can worship all the fals gods i want to. that is exactly what it means.
Originally posted by For(Home)Country
So, if you would be as so kind, please don't defy the bible that you "believe in" and don't blasphemy against it. The verse you quoted was from the old testament. For the millionth time, when Jesus Christ died, there was a new covenant formed, one in which God loves us, not sends wrath upon us. "Every good and perfect thing comes from God." James 1:17.
Look it up, do your research, and do us all a favour: Don't blame bad stuff on the perfect God that created us. Thanks in advance.
17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Originally posted by heliosprime
Yes, you can worship who/whatever you wish...the point is.........when you abandon God's commandments you no longer get the blessings of God. America has abandoned the commandments almost completely and will pay for it............
Originally posted by Res Ipsa
reply to post by For(Home)Country
God "lets" things happen? I guess that is not technically wrong (like my spelling is) but......my group, the CC's (Consistent Christian's) would say that there are natural consequences when we choose not to love. It isn't that God "lets" this happen....it is just the nature of all that is not love.
love and all is good....don't love and you roll the dice type of thing....not God is waiting to slap you or folding his arms saying "I told you so"
..........anyway..........why are we still banging our head with this guy and his "never going to change beliefs and world view?"
It also might be more accurate to describe his views as intolerant rather than hateful.......yes, intolerance does lead you to the dark side and hate but as long as he isn't mailing anthrax to us idol worshipping abominations, well then I say......on to the next thread.
Originally posted by Standingby
LOL your a nutcase, have you ever travelled to another country. America has freedom of Religion. One can see the vine, the wealth and the great good that America has contributed to the world. NO go to a country that puts you to death for not praying when you are supposed to pray.
Bottom line: America is th most free and most Christ loving country in the world.
Originally posted by pluckynoonez
reply to post by heliosprime
Blame Ellen Degeneres too? Honestly, this thread is hilarious. Selective outrage in interpreting the Bible, great job!
Originally posted by Res Ipsa
reply to post by For(Home)Country
God "lets" things happen? I guess that is not technically wrong (like my spelling is) but......my group, the CC's (Consistent Christian's) would say that there are natural consequences when we choose not to love. It isn't that God "lets" this happen....it is just the nature of all that is not love.
love and all is good....don't love and you roll the dice type of thing....not God is waiting to slap you or folding his arms saying "I told you so"
..........anyway..........why are we still banging our head with this guy and his "never going to change beliefs and world view?"
It also might be more accurate to describe his views as intolerant rather than hateful.......yes, intolerance does lead you to the dark side and hate but as long as he isn't mailing anthrax to us idol worshipping abominations, well then I say......on to the next thread.
Originally posted by heliosprime
For the "Nth" thime also.....
Matt 5:17,18
17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Your false understanding of the gospel is what is wrong here...........there is not old or new anything.........only God and Jesus saying the same thing.....
Originally posted by re22666
ok well then you should admit that your original post is full of ignorant statements then ie."freedom of religion does not mean you are free to worship false gods." seeing as how you just admitted that was flat out WRONG. [edit on 8/9/2008 by re22666]
Originally posted by heliosprime
No the point is the founders were deeply religious jews and christians. It did not occur to them such freedom would be hijacked by the ignorant........vile lawyers and supreme corrupt courts........