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reply posted on 9-8-2008 @ 06:24 PM by DarthChrisious
reply to post by FAMILY_OF_LIGHT



I'm sorry, but I don't believe you. I don't think any ship will show up. I think this is a publicity stunt to get your name out in the public. I think you have a good chance at succeeding in that respect. However, I think you'll be severely disappointed in the response you get.

The GFL has made many claims. Yet, no proof exists for any of them. You are asking rational people to have faith in something that hasn't even earned the right to have faith in. Whether you like it or not, we live in a world which requires proof. Most of the people on this site, if not all, are fringe thinkers. We believe in the fantastic and the extraordinary. We believe in extraterrestrials, but we don't blindly believe every single UFO/Alien story. For example, some people believe Billy Meier; however, some don't. Some believe in Roswell, some don't. Some believe we warned off the moon, some don't. Just because the majority of us are conspiracy theorists, it doesn't mean we're irrational. In fact, a lot of us are some of the most rational people you'll ever come across. If you thought that we were going to blindly accept what you and the GFL say as absolute truth, then you made a serious error in judgment. We, too, require proof. You and the GFL have offered absolutely nothing. All you have given us is your word. And the word of someone who belongs to a fringe cult isn't really credible. To blindly accept what you call the truth would be irrational.



reply posted on 9-8-2008 @ 08:17 PM by mystiq
I am not being disrespectful and biased. In addition, our family has had many sightings since childhood and some alarming signs that point to more. We just arrived back from a month visiting relatives yesterday, the last day in my childhood town, were the stars were wonderful at my grandmother's lake front property. All our stuff was packed, she had just fell asleep and we had another sighting. It was soundless and flew slowly overhead until it disappeared behind a dark cloud and never exited. My younger kids moved the telescope without permission and it had to be put back together in the morning; my older son who has 20 20 vision said that he thought it was almost diamond shaped under the slow pulsing red light.
It could be our own secret technology, but my 6 year old wouldn't sleep next to the window and told me he thought he would be taken in the night. He thought they were following us. It took me a while to convince him he was safe.
If there are some really advanced people, who are spiritually advanced as well, and who care for us and wish to help us, I would be overjoyed. The message that was on the net earlier, "do you wish we should show up?" I shouted yes right away. But you need to watch some of the videos about the Galactic Federation, because some are lovely,and some bring in more complicated things, and I don't know where its coming from. Its a big complicated mess of stuff and some of it seems reptilian or even luciferean.
If they come, no matter who's in the ship, I'll be waving my greetings. Would be nice if something very positive comes out of this. Its not likely its even going to happen, but its not being disrespectful to acknowledge that or to remain cautiously optimistic. It was fun for the kids to have sightings in the spring of this year, but its suddenly to much for my little guy. He's getting scared.


reply posted on 30-8-2008 @ 10:23 PM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by NephraTari




Whilst you mean well...there is more homework to do, and listening within to follow up on....MS. Blossom and others followers of the Galactic Feds...are being SET UP for a BIG FALL!!!!!!!

The Galactic Federation of Light is not aligned with the helpful agenda and friendlies dear, do your homework, its the Galactic Council or Galactic Confederation that is...AND its very likely these ones will be helping the dark bros on the ground carry out a false flag event before the election...similar to 911...SO!...

Try going inside to discern, and you will learn.... the truth - Light and Dark only half half the equation...as blasting with white light without compassion is no different that the blasting of darkness - both do harm...its the balancing of both lite/dark at the level of heart that will shift people and their slave predicament on Earth!!! Oh that's right many don't realize their slaves yet...

NOTE: Looks like someone entitled the video wrong...see the movie title within movie...very truthful...Spot on! George Kavassilas tells it LIKE IT IS...Accept it or Not!
For pointers watch: www.youtube.com...


reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 10:15 AM by Beamish
In long established religions, their official representatives will bemoan the lack of belief in their faith amongst the general populace by encouraging the study and consideration of their teachings and convictions. This will not, however, be accompanied by a whining discourse about how important their messages are when their message is either ridiculed or ignored. Whether it is a priest, rabbi or imam, they invariably speak with eloquence and intimate knowledge of their faith and all its benefits. And they will speak with a confidence that can only come with a trust in the imperceptible that is built upon a solid foundation of centuries of heartfelt devotion and genuine research into the inherent need for humans to know where we are in the grand scale of things. They all do this without any solid proof of the existence of their deity or that deity’s messengers’ words. They, and their believers, have in their possession something quite unique; an unshakeable trust in the words of man, whether those words be said to be inspired or not.

There is little to distinguish the topic of the above statement with the subject matter of this thread.
Both speak of religion.

Like it or not, and anyway you look at it, the Galactic Federation of Light, and other extraterrestrial based creeds of the same ilk, are a growing religion. This can be defined by it having a devotional following, powerful iconographic imagery and personages, and whose leaders profess revealed awareness and contact with higher intelligences who exhibit superhuman abilities and a method for personal salvation from “the Dark Side”.

But, does _FAMILY_OF_LIGHT_ demonstrate these traits so ably utilized by his/her competitors? Nearly, but not quite, and this is my continuing problem with any channeling based orthodoxy. Sweeping statements such as this:

I will say this once and for all and I feel this is IMPORTANT for people to at least be aware of, I have been channeling messages for over 18years and have confirmed that indeed there will be a visit from the Galactic Federation of Light on October 14th of this year. One might ask how many channels with specific predictions and dates have I received that actually happened? My answer is 100% of everything I have ever channeled from GFL was fulfilled and I will bet the entire farm on this one.


absolutely need to have some kind of verification to accompany them, otherwise they are just letters.
Nothing more.

To have proof that you have successfully communicated alien messages that came true should be the subject of a thread in itself. I would like to read checkable corroborative descriptions of eighteen years worth of successful predictions, as it will be the first time I would have read of any “prophet” having such an unwavering hit rate. And I’ll bet the farm that I’m not alone.

If a conventional faith had such an accomplished sibyl, then surely by now they would have managed to sweep the world of all opposition as who would argue with such an absolute mastery of the future?
Why the ignorance of writing it (the October 14th prediction) off and dis-believing it so quickly without further investigation?
(My insert in bold type.)

Ignorance does not come into the equation with regard to any reader of this thread choosing to disbelieve. How exactly does anyone engage in “further investigation”? Is this meant as a spiritual investigation, or does it infer we read other confirmatory accounts situated on related, biased websites? An open, enquiring mind will not simply give in to the constant, insistent bombardment of how right a religion is just by reading its repetitive, unoriginal doctrine. (But, and unfortunately, many people will).
Most religions have a rich literary history through which their teachings have continued protracted campaigns of influence. The GFL and the Ashtar Command etc. just come across as bandwagon hopping, industrial producers of hippy-inspired peace, love and understanding, without introducing any innovative or novel theology. There’s nothing inherently wrong with the message at all, and I’ve said that many times, but we’ve heard it all before under various guises, and with innumerable threats of damnation and suffering thrown in if they weren’t adhered to. And still the world suffers.

(Continued...)


reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 10:16 AM by Beamish
(Continued...)

Strong, sophisticated, cerebral argument combined with a scholarly attitude to discourse that confronts the reader with a cohesive, rational approach to something that would otherwise be regarded as fantasy (and with all religions, we are dealing with the greatest mysteries) may well sow the seeds of interest in even the most rational of minds. Constantly using arresting words and emotive phraseology, such as “love”, “evil”, and “super galactic space ship”, simply does not, and will not, influence the majority. Our innate judgment, which has developed over millions of years of trial and error, has endowed us with an ability to deduce calm, rational reasoning from uncompromising, specious persuasion. Unfortunately, it is not always used.

The GFL, in using modern memetic iconography of UFOs and our quest for life in the universe as the backdrop for a religion, is simply playing on a need and being exploitative. It is very cynical, but clever, as most of their recruiting has already been done for them. And considering that UFOs (the genuine ones) are regularly seen and photographed (even historically) they have ready-made, and completely unverifiable, visual “testimony” of their beliefs. How many churches would love to have a catalogue of photographs of angels, etc?

So, will I be watching the news on October 14th? Of course. Will I be expecting a news flash? Maybe.
This is a wonderfully diverse planet and it is subject to repeated unexplainable happenings, those and the sporadic rise of messianic personages who all seem to carry with them individual burdens of truth, in all of its forms.
They can’t all be right.
But some might be.
If _FAMILY_OF_LIGHT_ is confirmed to be right on the date in question, then I will be genuinely apologetic, but not for the sake of what may happen to me because of my reluctance to accept his/her religion’s proclamation. I will do so simply because I am polite, and if proven wrong will gladly express regret.

I will, however, maintain a healthy skepticism of a species that insinuated itself into what can only be a small fraction of a planet’s population via a repetitive, hackneyed message, the use of poor communicators and cheap video effects on Youtube. Would it be too much to expect a superior genus to relay a vigorous, electrifying and wholly convincing, unifying epistle of salvation to all humans by means of an undeniable, totally convincing and world-wide method?

If October 14th happens, I hope the phrase that keeps going through my mind is just an annoying idiosyncrasy.

The phrase is “Trojan Horse”.


[edit on 5-9-2008 by Beamish]


reply posted on 11-9-2008 @ 08:59 PM by Anonymous ATS
As a young child I was once told from a voice within that I would one day be piloting or commanding a huge ship or something like that. I remember telling this to my younger brother shortly after and drawing him a picture of the image that was in mind at the time. To me then it seemed the size of a planet it was so big. The shape of it looked like what I related to as a Big Mac hamburger and it had many polls or arm like things sticking out in a spoke like fashion. I wonder if there is such a ship out there. Next time you channel the GFL perhaps you could mention it.

When I was younger I was really on my way to seeing things for what they really were and always bickering the teachings of religion I was raised with. I always sensed there was some truth to it all but yet there was so much wrong and false with much conflict.

Later in life as a young adult I married started a family and got caught up in trying to make a living instead of living. I started to burn out and depressed losing sight of all that was right and good. I drank hard for 17 years. I lost most of that closeness with life that I had an missed it greatly. I was always deep within my heart but the shell that hardened over it would grow back over it as soon as I could crack it. It took a while for me to figure out the more I fought against it the stronger it became. I learned not to resist it with force but to except it and all things for what they are and change myself not the conditions around me and the conditions will soon follow. The way I thought and felt about things and resisting what I did not like would only add friction keeping things the way they were longer or even make them worse off by feeding the negative energy with more negative energy. I can say now that I have come a long way back and closer to my so called true self, closer than I have been in a very long time. I have been happier and more at peace than I have been in a very long time too.

I know there is something really big going on in the whole of life and some very big part of the whole picture is coming up soon and we are all part of it. It has the spirit of all things swirling around like a whirl wind. Consciousness is rising like the tide of the sea the energies of our plain are changing and drawing us up like the moon to the waters. Soon all will be as though it were inside out and upside down. This is why it is so hard to understand so much of it. The reflection or projection of this world will invert in a sense, all will turn inward into the projector and see the source of the projection and the light that makes it happen. Well that about the easiest way I can explain what I think is happening right now.

Beings from other worlds or dimensions. I believe anything is possible, I think I may have been visited a few times in the past. Though I can not be sure if they were not dreams. In any case there were some good and some not so good. Most were when I was a young boy and a few as a young man. I dont remember anything like it after I started drinking heavily. In fact it was one of my many excuses to drink at the time. I often suffered from bad cluster and migraine headaches and would sometimes think that alien visits in my sleep were the cause since no doctors could ever figure it out. Funny but true. Though it has been quite some time since I had a bad headache attach and I am grateful for that.

I have learned a lot in my days biggest thing I learned is there is always more I do not know or understand than I do know or understand. Some how I feel the new lesson will be to lean not to understand but just to know and know that you already do understand all there is to know...

Well thank you for your time and give the GFL my best wishes and highest regard. I welcome my brothers and sisters of peace and love. I sort of have been expecting a wakened visit with such good beings, perhaps soon I too may have a chat with them. Best wishes.

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