You said that those who are ready will be transformed into a new dimension, etc. and those who aren't will be left behind in the lower dimension. Who are the ones that will be ready? Will babies be ready? Will infants and children? Are there some children who'll be left behind even if their parents move on? The starving children in Africa, will they move on? The tribe that was recently discovered in South America, will they move on?

I guess I'm saying, how will it be determined he gets to evolve and who doesn't? And, who decides?

The only problem I have with this alien visit is this.


What do I wear?

Originally posted by FAMILY_OF_LIGHT
I am extremely disappointed to see so much negativity on this website about the Galactic Federation of Light.

It really is unfair to see people start anti-GFL threads yet ATS does not tolerate say

Anti-Christian
Anti-Muslim
Anti-Freemason
Anti-Satanic
Threads yet they are allowing
Anti threads against GFL. What is with the Anti-GFL threads ATS?
Why the unfairness? Doesn’t just about everyone on this website have different beliefs so why not
Allow people to start ANTI threads about everyone else’s beliefs? That would take up the entire web-site.

I'm sorry but you are mistaken. As long as something is done in a respectful manner it can be argued and debunked, discredited or just refutted here at ATS. I am free to start a thread that challenges the beliefs of Freemasonry , Christianity or Satanism any time I choose so long as a purposefull debate follows with the exchange of views done in a respectfull manner.

If there is credibility in a topic it should not be feared to be challenged.

I don't have any feelings one way or the other about your cause or beliefs, I am just letting you know that it was not a solo target, people have the right to challenge things at ATS when they choose so long as it is done in the spirit of respectfull debate.

ATS is not however a recruiting platform for any cause or belief and that is not tolerated. ATS is here for discussion of topics not recruitment to causes.

Thanks for listening I just wanted to clear those things up, and welcome to ATS.

Do you want a fair chance to claim anything about the GFL?
Well, move the first step then.
Please provide us with some evidences that we can analyze and discuss.
Give to US a fair chance to find out if what you say are BS or not.
Or do you want to keep the same ol strategy, otrageous claimings zero evidences and so on, as ALWAYS has happened with the stuff related with GFL?
Stuff like this has to be considered LUCKY if not trashed five minutes after the OP, and by the way: next time, take a photo of one of your intergalactic friends: perhaps you'll have some chance to be taken seriously.



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Just wanna say that I marked the 14th oct. on my calendar.

I can imagine a lot of people are very sceptic about this story, I am myself. But I know a few things;
- Channeling entities is possible and exist (I am not a medium) I studied
it for more then 20 years now
- ET life must be out there somewhere
- Earth is heading for disaster
- Anything is possible

So ATS readers: if this is gonna happen, wouldn it be what everybody is waiting for here?

If nothing happens, so what?
For all of you crybabies that wanna say: told you so, go ahead.
For all real truthseekers, stay on this site cause I love to read your topics,
keep an open mind and your feet on the ground. Have patience, we are right.

Well like i've said before i have an open mind. I am prepared for the possibility that something might happen on October 14th but i wont be holding my breath. I do however agree with one point you made. The universe is made up of good and evil, powers of light and darkness. It is all around us, you dont just find it in humans, though it is amplified to a greater level as we are able to do much more, but you can see it in nature as well.

At the end of the day whether this event happens or not, we are ALL on a journey together to find out truths. This may be true or it may be just another bit of wishful thinking, but whatever happens it will be an interesting journey...

Given the state of the planet today, i for one would welcome such an intervention. It is time we as a human race started to grow up and stop behaving like children with the endless wars, polluton of the planet and greed.

Originally posted by internos
...and by the way: next time, take a photo of one of your intergalactic friends: perhaps you'll have some chance to be taken seriously.

I seriously doubt that. It is said that they are human and we look very similar to them. It would just open up the OP to ridicule.

People have been conditioned that extraterrestrials must look different than us.

Originally posted by FAMILY_OF_LIGHT
I have been channeling messages for over 18years and have confirmed that indeed there will be a visit from the Galactic Federation of Light on October 14th of this year. One might ask how many channels with specific predictions and dates have I received that actually happened? My answer is 100% of everything I have ever channeled from GFL was fulfilled and I will bet the entire farm on this one.

Why is it so important for you that people believe before the event actually takes place?

If you are right about this, fantastic. Good for you and everybody else. If you are not, you will feel depressed and betrayed since you really seem to believe what you say. I will feel nothing special.

I guess I dont see why you need people to buy it before it happens when people make these predictions all the time here on ATS. Nothing ever happens. If you are the first one to be correct - congratulations. Surely its not that difficult to understand the skepticism. Its usually referred to as common sense.



[edit on 9-8-2008 by Copernicus]

Originally posted by Hydroman
I guess I'm saying, how will it be determined he gets to evolve and who doesn't? And, who decides?

Ask the Christians, they have thousands of years of experience in picking who is worthy and who is not.

At the same time, they read a book telling them to not judge people.

I think everyone who wants peace is a good person. So sue me.


[edit on 9-8-2008 by Copernicus]

There has been so many predictions on this site, with EXACT dates... and nothing ever happens. That might be the reason its hard to take some theories seriously on this site.

Now Im not the brightest spark in the world but Im not sure how making everyone lose thier bowels is constructive to what you say is the ultimate goal.

Would they be better off just taking out the core evil and leting the rest of us experience the love and joy we have within our everyday living with our family and friends?
I love my Life and I love my Earth, the evil folk make it a little bit more interesting and challenging.


If they want to help they can help us nut out solutions to our environmental problems and the permanent damage we create. They could help us manage if not create the resources we need. I can guarantee you would change 3/4 of what you consider evil about people.

All they would have to do is channel people like yourself and turn you guys into scientists.


Maybe they just arnt very smart aliens.

Hmm... I call Shenanigans

So anyone who does not accept "because the voices told me so" as evidence are really just embracing ignorance and are anti-"GFL" biggots?

I am somewhat skeptical with regards to any claims of the GFL, I doubt anything will happen on October 14th... although I will keep an open mind, if there were a documented mass ufo sighting on the said date then it would be interesting.

If the GFL actually exist then why haven't they made their presence known already? If they really want to help us "ascend" why aren't they here now preparing the worlds population for the "journey"?

I'll tell you why because it's BS, I will try and keep an open mind though


Resentedhalo08.

ok of course i would love to believe that what you are saying is true, i really would and of course physical proof is not possible. so all I and the rest of ats have to go on is your word and strength of character. None of which can be verified either. So of course, expect to be flamed to death on these " messages ".
I believe Aliens, Channeling, Spirits, etc etc etc exist and are probably interacting with humans as we speak. There is alot of strange unexplainable things in the world that i cant even comprehend. What i cant understand is why the need to the get message out?? why does that matter at all?? Seening as there's millions out there that have no access to the internet, and alot more for that matter, who will never get a chance to even make up there own minds about it. what does this mean for them???
You say everything you've channeled has come true 100% - where, what, how - eloborate please as of course this would help your case.
Its not like your message is one of fear or hate and I can see that but this doesnt mean your not crazy.
So please pull a stool up next to me and see things from my perspective.

Theres very little a person can say when a psychic or channeled date is given, other than an initial rejection or acceptance based on belief, which is merely subjective. Basically, as this is just one more prediction, its a wait and see. But I do wish to point out that I've been watching some of the GF videos out, because of the prediction made, just to go further into it and see what various people do believe. My initial knee-jerk reaction is to reject channeled information, to remain somewhat open to psi information depending on the person giving it, and to prefer reading accounts of face to face experiences.
While watching the videos several things came to me. The basic positive message, is uplifting and wonderful. Do I wish that human looking and feeling, higher techno and cooperative people would not only show up, but help us stop fascism, world depopulation and environmental pollution, and disasters? Considering that I've read that nefarious operations and technologies are being jointly carried forth by the PTB and grey ets, then, yes, interference has already occurred and we need help here. Should there actually be a positive force for good, a peaceful and cooperative body in the universe that holds higher principles and supports individualism and rights and is more balanced than the hive militaristic mentality projected in ufology, I would be very impressed.
But one thing that was clearly pointed out in one the videos was the spiritual message, which included a rather detailed explanation of God and the forces of Love and the Luciferean forces of knowledge. It went into the first creation being insect, then reptile, then bird, then I take finally us. The reptile race is very warlike and takes what it wants more or less, interested in control, sounded alot like nwo stuff. The bird race was very loving and angelic like. The Sirian wars depicted that the reptiles forced the "good guys" to surrender or be destroyed and therefore won. Now we're to believe that the goodness of the bird people has assimilated into the reptilian race, and humans were made to combine the forces of both. I didn't like this video. I'm a gnostic with a Christian background, and only go where God directs me to. I accept alot of good inspired passages from many types of people, but basically, I don't want these people to be spirit beings! That is dangerous concept to wrap the mind around. Basically, things that fly around in physical vessels that can be touched and felt, are here in this univers with us, and inhabit bodies. They're people, and this stuff gets way to out there for me.
If and when, some positive groups of ets start to reveal themselves to the human race, after all the secretive, agendas displayed so far, I do expect to not be facing Lucifer or some group under him. This stuff gets too confusing.


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Would it be too much to ask for further discourse with these beings? A single video with a bit of text really isn't much to go on.

Let us ask some questions. Not really fair to just say, "hey we're going to show up, so wave at us." There are those of us who wish to experience real contact and not just hang around with the ship. I don't care about the ship, there are other things I want to know. I would pass off a simple spaceship sighting. It wouldn't satisfy my curiosity. Some of us might only think it was a holographic trick. Some of us want more than a sighting.

I spent years looking into the sky and didn't see anything, except a couple of cool moments of the Northern Lights. At first, I was terrified should I see anything, but deep down inside I secretly wanted to see ships. Then later I became brazen and wanted to see, and have since directly requested it. Let's hook up, I want to experience and learn. But nothing... and pretty much stopped looking at the sky. I asked for contact, and received none, not even in dreams. Every autumn, I see old Orion and become sad, because then I know another year has passed and still I had no direct experience.

Then I see messages like that, talking about a visit. Well, it's been said for many years we would be visited, but yet nothing happened to anyone I knew and certainly didn't happen to me. And that other thing a couple of years ago called "Do You Wish For Us To Show Up?" After a while, it's like crying wolf. You hear it repeated so many times that it becomes easy to shrug it off.

So how then do we really know there would be a visitation? This could be just another channel of someone that delivers incorrect messages with prophetic events that never occur.

If this is to happen in October, we still have time to get to know more information. And if we are truly to know, then why not share more. Why not allow a Q8A session. A simple message on a simple YouTube video just isn't enough.