Please Please Mr Chinese Propaganda man do not get me going on this one.
I will post page after page , interviews, photos, links to videos.
ALL OF THESE SOURCES WILL BE AT A SCHOLAR OR INTERNATIONAL, LEGAL LEVEL.
Before this.
Yes a Feudal System did exist in Tibet. This is true, and that brought with it all the problems of that system. We must remember though that prior to
WW2 only a handful of westerners had been to Tibet, it was isolated and lived maybe culturally a couple of hundreds of years behind a lot of the rest
of the world.
The Current Dalai llama was only a teenager when he had to go into exile from Tibet. He was only accepted as Head of temporal and spiritual affairs
quickly in response to the invasion by the Chinese.
Prior to this the "Regent" or caretaker was managing affairs of the state.
So blaming the current Dalai Llama is ridiculous, he never had the time in power in Tibet to integrate the new governance systems he was learning
keenly as Teen from Western Visitors such as Heinrich Harrier.
Tibet was isolated. This led them to not take on Governance change as quickly as the rest of the world.
However they were doing this for a reason. at least 1 in 10 Tibetans at that time was a monk or nun. The entire society was based on religion and the
propagation and support of the monastery system not the feudal system.
The Feudal systems that are alluded to happened, but what is not mentioned much is that the real regional power brokers were the Monasteries.
C’mon just before China Invaded Tibet MILLIONS OF YOUR COUNTRYMEN WERE SLAUGHTERED AND STARVED TO DEATH in the Cultural revolution.
Children were beheaded in front of their families for not carrying the "right little book"
Also just before that time in Europe Concentration Camps had been built and were here by the most "advanced" country in Europe at the time.
To the North Russia and its tribulations had killed hundreds of millions of people.
The worlds largest democracy at that time, when the new Dalai Llama was about to be reincarnated, allowed a known attack on its forces to go to war
(pearl harbour), The Current leader of this countries grandfather Used their Banking System to fund and create the Hitler war Machine, then lent money
to the rest of the world to fight it in return, basically selling human lives for great financial profit.
This country today can be seen to be undertaking torture currently today in parts of Cuba.
What yardstick of "advanced" civilisations from which continent are you measuring the Feudal system in Tibet against at that time?
You see before that with previous Llamas, not much progress was made with governance, however the rest of Europe was Lining up its men against each
other in muddy fields and trench’s and wave after wave were dying, oh your country was being invaded and genocide was happening by the Japanese,
your country replied in Kind.
Tibet did not want anything to do with type of world, they wanted to continue the most in-depth, profound and detailed study of the Human Mind that
has ever ever been undertaken in recorded Human History, oh and to hopefully have as many "enlightened" humans as possible.
Thank you China for all the libraries that your soldiers burned and sacked, all the tongues of Great Masters that were removed, so that the lineage of
Oral only transmissions from guru to teacher (some of the Bon/Tibetan Buddhist hybrid practices and oral teachings, were mixes of knowledge that went
back over 2400 years!!!!)
Thanks for taking that knowledge away from humanity advanced genocidal china.
You see when the rest of the world then, and still to this day was under enslavement from apparent choices of democracy and fascist Bankers, or under
totalitarian regimes as found at that time and now in China, Russia (Soviet Union) Europe, and the populace were all working to give a large
proportion of their wealth and time labour to create military and war. Money and power for the bankers and politicians.
So what yardstick are you using to berate the "Tibetan System?"
Things such as your pictures showing Skulls and bones of "serfs", you know as well as I do this is not the correct interpretation of these
artefacts.
A large part of the Buddhist faith is looking at impermanence etc, therefore that culture has a very very different view to old bits of bodies. Some
of the most highly respected Tibetan scholars could be found drinking from empty skulls, and using thigh bones as musical instruments. This was used
to break the attachment with the ID or EGO.
These scholars were not backward of medieval most have degrees that took at least 7-10 years to achieve, and many western scholars have stated they
are as equivalent to getting a double first in western education. It is only a religious practice to do with Tantra.
So just to hopefully nip in the bud any ideas you have that this thread will propagate lies, propaganda and mistruths on behalf of a murderous, and
despicable (to all humans! Chinese included) regime.
If ATS was around during the 1940's I don't believe the pro Hitler camp would get very far.
Your arguments and lies will not get very far here today my friend.
CHINA COMMITTED GENOCIDE IN TIBET.
Fact not a point of conjecture.
Well at that time this "backward feudal" country was doing the opposite, the people worked and tilled the fields for the local rich land owners
(like all places in the world now still!!), they were however giving a main part to fund and expand, religious studies, monasteries.
How Backward. How stupid?
If you ask me that is the right situation, if not for religion at least for development or knowledge of human minds and experiences.
I always meant to do a thread on the Cultural revolution and the horrors of it for your countries rich history, knowledge and people.
Anyhow my thrust of any responses after my above points and below will be as stated of only a peer reviewed Scholarly Nature, from true provable
Organisations with no agenda, or from the International Diplomatic Structures.
Any Documentaries, or photos, or statements made will only be posted where the source can be verified, or is balanced in response from a different
source.
Is that OK?
So lets start then, hopefully my passion in this will allow you to see its not worth using ATS as a propaganda machine, but try if you like, you wont
win my friend!
Anyhow to start and lets see how much time this will take to kill this thread
The following is from the United Nations;
DRAFT PETITION ON BEHALF OF TIBETANS DEPRIVED OF THEIR INTERNATIONALLY PROTECTED HUMAN RIGHTS1 FOR A GRANT OF UNITED NATIONS EFFECTIVE REMEDY.
IN THE UNITED NATIONS GENERAL ASSEMBLY,
ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL COUNCIL,
HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION,
THE SECRETARY GENERAL
UNITED NATIONS PLAZA,
NEW YORK
The Petitioners herein invoke the jurisdiction of the United Nations and its organs by virtue of the provisions of the United Nations Charter, the
Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment, the International
Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights, and the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, and file this petition on behalf of
the Tibetans in the People’s Republic of China, praying for peace in the region, the recognition of the universally recognized human right of the
freedom of religion, and the cessation of torture, arbitrary arrest
and detention and extrajudicial killings.
(Background historical information is then in this petition which is factual and not unfactual as the Op's has been shown already not to be)
Suppression of Tibetans’ fundamental human rights began with the invasion of Tibet by China. In two reports from 1959 and 1960 the International
Commission of Jurists determined that the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) as the government of the People’s Republic of China (PRC) had the systematic
intention of destroying the Buddhist
