Originally posted by LoneGunMan

Originally posted by bknapple32
... You have a choice in being awake like Buddha, or asleep like a cheese chasing mammal.

... If not you will continue in the emptiness of chasing the cheese like all the other rats.

About the Titor phenomenon you either full understand the concept of what he said in its entirety, or you take little bits that fit your world and throw it all out.

Rats DON'T chase cheese! For a start cheese doesn't run that fast. Also, how do you know rats aren't more enlightened than you, or Buddhists? For all you know there could be rats that ARE Buddhists!

John Titor doesn't have a theory about cheese that can run around and has legs does he?

i will state AGAIN any cancellation of the un contested events will be irrelevant

olyimpic games HAVE occured - gold medals have been awarded

reccord books and historical texts will record katerina emmons as the 1st olymic gold of bejing 2008 , WHATEVER happens next

Originally posted by bknapple32
sorry titor fans. no excuses anymore. the olympics have begun on the dreaded 8-8-8 date. lol.lol. sorry, excuse the laughter. but this will be the day that comes and goes. 8-9-08 here we come. go team USA.


oh and 12-21-12... ill be enjoying waiting for xmas while the rest here will make an excuse, and give us a new date to fear.


excuse the elistest attitude of this post. but we here at ats have been forcefed this titor 8-8-8 crap. and like we others have said about 2012, the dates are meaningless.

titor is wrong, and all titor hoaxes should now have the label farce next to them.

[edit on 8-8-2008 by bknapple32]

My thoughts exactly, the primary reason I logged in was to post that we can officially now call Titor a fraud.

A very imaginative liar, but still a complete fraud.

Originally posted by ignorant_ape
FFS - titor did not mention was in georgia / russia

Sorry, sometimes people do not grasp my rhetorical wit. My apologies, it was an ill-fated stab at humor. as is;

I am surprised that the Russians got all the way to Georgia without anyone noticing. They must of come in from Florida, those retirees sleep a lot.

Originally posted by dreams n chains

Originally posted by Chaos Lord
As Titor stated he is from a different Paralell Universe. That may be what happened in his Universe not ours

Also... I believe that people are ignoring the most important points he made.

That we are looked very poorly upon by future generations because of our greed and uncaring ways in such a frightningly overpopluated society...... because we eat processed foods and foods that contain poison and meat that we feed dead meat to...... because we do not even know how to grow our own food anymore...... because we are creating hybrid seeds that will not produce good crops and making many seeds infertile..... because we are totally relying on technology and therefore crippling ourselves..... that we are losing our rights daily by our governments and doing nothing to stop it..... etc, etc.....

I tell everyone I can about John Titor and will continue to do so... his truly important messages are in desperate need to be heeded. Desperate Need.

Titor didn't "make points" about us from the lense of future generations. He was not from the future. He was a charlatan, a liar, a con artist.

Moot point I'm afraid. besides, remember the future will not see us as those things, Obama is going to save the world. Just ask his followers.

Originally posted by LoneGunMan

Originally posted by bknapple32
oh and 12-21-12... ill be enjoying waiting for xmas while the rest here will make an excuse, and give us a new date to fear.

2012 is not a date to be feared. You are not informed and do not have the spiritual awakened state or else you would better understand 2012.

It is not a date that all of a sudden things change on that date. Its a build up of energy, then a slow release. If you are in tune with the earth you will build up your energy until you reach a higher vibration at 2012.

Myself I understand 2012 because of experience on the astral plain not because of the Internet. You have a choice in being awake like Buddha, or asleep like a cheese chasing mammal.

Just like Kubriks 2001 we have times of great evolutionary leaps. 2012 is one of them...its like a tuning fork, but if your strings are rusting or broken you will never reach a perfect pitch. The Sun is at the crossing once again, this is the reason for the cross to be sacred, not Christs crucification.
as we enter another age, and cross the center of the galaxy the sun amplifies the energy from the galaxy's center and transmits that energy to us. If you have prepared yourself for this tuning your world will open and you will awaken as one with all. If not you will continue in the emptiness of chasing the cheese like all the other rats.

About the Titor phenomenon you either full understand the concept of what he said in its entirety, or you take little bits that fit your world and throw it all out.

It's amazing to consider...

The Mayans could "foresee the future" to the demise of the ENTIRE PLANET, yet couldn't foresee the future of their OWN demise.

Mmmkay...

Originally posted by Denied

Originally posted by bknapple32
sorry titor fans. no excuses anymore. the olympics have begun

But they haven't ended yet, im on the fence about titor, but i dont think you can completely disregard the claim until the Olympics are completed.

He said there would be no Olympic games after 2004, a cancellation would make the 2008 Olympics void.

Oh, okay. I stand corrected then.

He was proved to be a hoax in 2006.

Why do we need to try and decipher what he meant to say?

Why can't we read the plain text? He said no Olympic games after 2004.

He was proved to be a fraud in 2006, and as of yesterday it is indisputable fact.

Originally posted by LoneGunMan
I did not split this up into two different things.

Sure you did. Either you understand 2012 or you're not spiritually awakened.

When did I state that something significant will happen that day. It is an anchor point, the same anchor point when ancient civilization started. If you cant FEEL the world changing then you have blinded yourself, or are very young.

Of course the world is changing. It changes every day, every month, every year. So what's so special about 2012? And perhaps you'd like to elaborate on just what an anchor point is?

I dont believe in religion. I am a spiritualist. I do not have dogma I do though have precognitions when I dream. One day you may understand, but more than likely not in this lifetime.

Funny, truly spiritually enlightened folks usually aren't so full of condescension. Maybe that's just an artifact of your ego.

Originally posted by HeHasNoName

Originally posted by Chaos Lord
As Titor stated he is from a different Paralell Universe. That may be what happened in his Universe not ours

Thats convenient.

Its a shame i cant use a 'well, it probably happened in a parallel universe' defense for my misguided predictions.

Yeah, can you imagine the use of such theories in criminal defense? "Your Honor, if you find my client guilty and send him to jail, you will be in fact punishing an innocent John Doe in a Parallel Universe. This could have disastrous consequences we may never bear witness to".

Also, I truly hope that NO ONE is actually looking forward to an Olympic Disaster, just so they can prove a Prediction to be True. I wish all of the Olympic Athletes, Participants and Spectators the best.

[edit on 8-9-2008 by TheAgentNineteen]

this would be the same day war started with russia and gorg is it not,maybe right day wrong place,not saying i back up him up but this war could get much worse with the US sticking there nose in

Awesome thread.....wish I had go to it first

I guess this really does prove Titor as a hoax, I am wondering how many Titorites have changed their views now, or are they going to bring up whole alternate timelines thing which seems to come up everytime Titor is wrong

Again, great thread

Originally posted by thrashee

Funny, truly spiritually enlightened folks usually aren't so full of condescension. Maybe that's just an artifact of your ego.

Truly enlightened folks do not deal with lower energy arguments if they are true to raising vibrational level. I am enlightened enough to understand that no matter what I say to you that you will argue the point no matter how well I make my point.

I was not being condescending I was stating a fact. You probably will not be ready in this lifetime. There is nothing wrong about that and I do not consider you, any person or creature deserves to be talked down to. You seem to be on a path in this lifetime that is at a different place than the one I am on and that you need to experience the physical only is fine.

An eagle has its place as does the snake. Both deserve respect.

Originally posted by UFOpsychiczebra


Rats DON'T chase cheese! For a start cheese doesn't run that fast. Also, how do you know rats aren't more enlightened than you, or Buddhists? For all you know there could be rats that ARE Buddhists!

Chasing the cheese is an analogy about living in the physical and material world and living life for pleasure and not seeing that this is not our ultimate goal. I have derailed this thread too much already and after having exchanges with two people that seem to be energy vampires I feel the need for a shower and meditation.

I am not an airy fairy hippy. Mine is not the path of the healer. Mine is Odin's path...

Originally posted by LoneGunMan
Truly enlightened folks do not deal with lower energy arguments if they are true to raising vibrational level. I am enlightened enough to understand that no matter what I say to you that you will argue the point no matter how well I make my point.

Or you simply realize you have not a shred of what us "lower energy" folks would call evidence to support your point. But I'll give you a point here because "lower energy arguments" gave me a good laugh.

I was not being condescending I was stating a fact. You probably will not be ready in this lifetime.

It's amusing to me that you presume to know--as fact--anything about my own spiritual development. We've substituted condescension now for arrogance. The only thing you do know is that I don't believe in the significance of the year 2012. But then, according to you, that proves I'm not enlightened. Again, that smacks of the same type of circular "logic" employed by most religious zealots. You don't need a religion to be blinded by faith.

[edit on 9-8-2008 by thrashee]

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Why do we need to try and decipher what he meant to say?

Why can't we read the plain text? He said no Olympic games after 2004.

He was proved to be a fraud in 2006, and as of yesterday it is indisputable fact.

It's really not that simple, see that part was not meant to be read literally, it's more of a metaphor or parable

More seriously, I am really interested to see if the titorites give up, I doubt it...