Hey
Can anyone post any information on real magick ie sigil magick or the such
thanks for your replys guys

find and read the Greater Keys of Solomon, the lesser keys of solomon, the keys of enoch, sword of moses, in searching for these you should find some other grimoire related documents, I say the older the better, but be detailed in your research, there is a lot of crap out there, and stuff that seems like crap but is merely some individuals personal account of their own working system.

There are many others out there, I would suggest for beginners reading some blavatsky and maybe crowley, but do not become biased by their opinions, their research is fairly sound and at the very least provides a good point for reference material. Look into the existing esoteric practices, like taoist alchemy etc, its all connected, in order to have a good understanding of productive work, one should probably research the entire origin of any given system.
As for the Necronomicons, you could make your own opinion of it after studying the psychology behind how magic works, as some claim it is a workable system even though it is a partially fictitious work.
If you have trouble finding such texts, just go on some p2p network and search for PDF's SLSK seems to have a fair number of members with such PDF files.
be wise, and be positive in your intents either in research or practice.

I suggest searching Google for some ebooks on various types of magick or going to a bookstore....Not asking vague questions that can easily be researched on ones own with a few keystrokes

mr toodle
the reason i posted this here is because i have looked on my own but there is so much false information out there these days i dont know what to beleive.
i trust this site as a place of real information that is why i posted .

I3lip i greatly appreciate your reply.
i will answer you questions in order:
1. yes i am religous, i am christian although i give and take some beleifs here and there.
2.yes i do beleive in a greater power.
3.Im not 100% sure what your askin but if your askin if i think spirits of the dead or demons influence magick then i beleive that they are the cause of some, not all magick although id have to research this more.
4.i think that channeling the natural energy in us all is possible as i have felt myself do it on more than one occasion .
5.WOAH the big one lol.
I want a greater understanding of this world and any others, i want knowledge of the stuff they dont teach at school, i dont wanna just learn what i have been spoonfed most of my life i want to experience things for myself instead of just reading about them, but most of all i want to know the truth .

hope this answers your questions satiably and i sincerely look forward to your reply

think of magick like this. you are a ion on a hard drive. Energy travels from the earth and around the earth, like a tesla coil archs for everything around it, magick can be precise with the right utterances and materials, but it is dangerous both to an unprepared victim or recipient and you the caster. Magick has always been taken skepticly because most people who look for magic end up corrupt inside. Or misguided. besides, you dont know what you might do some where else via side effects, or reflections. Energy in motion is a dangerous thing. Especially when your not prepared.
basicly though magick is merely you, your intent, someone elses intent, and time/space potential being influence by willpower both outside and inside, as above, so below..

ok thanks very much
for everyones help

the Greatest Sorcerers dont just do magic just out of curiosity, or just because they want.. Wisdom is found and made through hard work. i Learned riding a bicycle not because I wanted to.. but eventually became a part of me.. i still remember the day.. i was 13, I was holding my brothers bike... and already in my mind wa sick of trying and trying but never getting results.. until that day i just out of some sort of uncontrollable impulse i just rode that bike, like it was always a part of me!..