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Leonardo da Vinci revealed? - If so, JESUS is an ALIEN

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posted on Aug, 8 2008 @ 08:47 AM
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Leonardo da Vinci's pictures are somewhat fascinating to a conspiracy theorist. But this is the most creative find I've seen yet. The following clip suggests the picture by da Vinci of the Last Supper has a hidden secret.

Ok, you may have seen clips and theories regarding the last supper picture, regarding sacred geometry, hidden images and even music, here is a selection of those...

Last Supper & Sacred Geometry

Last Supper & Hidden Music

Last Supper & Extra Person

But this is the most amazing one I've seen to date, by mirroring and overlaying the last supper, this one shows Jesus as a reptile/alien.



This is the description for the clip...


I have made this video in response to so many fake videos some hiding and some misinformed about what was really behind the "last supper" painting. the real issue to show you the real "being" . Mutuo Credo knew already the name of such being and he use to name it "Chitauri". David Icke, Dan Winter and others can tell you other more interesting stories about who they are these being. www.goldenmean.info have almost all the information you need to know.
The snake, dragon and reptilian depict found in many churches is still a mystery. Some have argued that such creature lives in the underground and are infiltrated in our government and religious groups.
Here for the first time Leonardo reveals to us the face of "Chitauri". No one knows the true reason Leonardo used mirror writing and painting, though several possibilities have been suggested:
• He was trying to make it harder for people to read his notes and steal his ideas.
• He was hiding his scientific ideas from the powerful Roman Catholic Church, whose teachings sometimes disagreed with what Leonardo observed.
• Being a lefty was highly unusual in Leonardo's time. Because people were superstitious, children who naturally started using their left hands to write and draw were forced to use their right hands.
Though the "last supper" for the first time reveal to us the face of the strange "being", I personally made this video out of original photo taken from archived books. Such being is not visible with recent photos taken after the restoration done in 1998 by the Italian government; it seems like the restoration was done intentionally to eliminate such evidence. Now the main question is "was Leonardo aware and has he seen such being or was it commissioned by the church to do the painting?".


It could be a very nice hoax, I have no idea.

If it is real, it makes me question something David Icke said in his 2003 lecture "Secrets of the Matrix". Don't go hating all reptillians, some are here to help us.

Imagine if Christianity was being controlled by aliens. Most people can guess reptillians control some secret societies (rightly or wrongly). What if there was a group of friendly aliens controlling some religions. Or what if the whole chabang was an out and out alien scam. Or maybe this video is a deftly created hoax.

An alien connection to Jesus, something to think about isn't it. Either way I'm not fussed, his teachings are great. Unconditional love & forgiveness.

Much Love


For extra your viewing pleasure, here are some more Da Vinci paintings vids...

Vitruvian man theory 1

Vitruvian man theory 2



posted on Aug, 8 2008 @ 09:18 AM
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Good post and links to videos. I have been interested in this subject matter for a long time now.
I believe that Di Vinci had contracts with the Holy Church, who was the Power in his time. These contracts were to retain DV to paint and sculpt various church oriented pieces, and that Di Vinci had knowledge of estoric matters and other secret knowledge that he wanted to get out, but had to worry about the Church. So, he used codes to get the message out. Anyone who has studied symbolism knows that messages can be sent using symbols in things we see every day. I know that a lot of people have a copy of the Lord's Supper hanging on their wall at home, and look at it every day. Perhaps Di Vinci knew that would happen, and he is trying to tell us things from the grave?

There is something here, with the Holy Grail/Early Christianity/Arthurian Legend that we can't see yet, but it will be revealed in time.

"The key to life and death is everywhere to be found, but if you do not find it in your own house, you will find it nowhere. Yet, it is before everyone's eyes; no one can live without it; everyone has used it. The poor usually possess more of it than the rich; children play with it in the streets. The meek and uneducated esteem it highly, but the privileged and learned often throw it away. When rejected, it lies dormant in the bowels of the earth. It is the only thing from which the Philosopher's Stone can be prepared, and without it, no noble metal can ever be created."
Chrétien de Troyes' Perceval, le Conte du Graal



posted on Aug, 8 2008 @ 09:34 AM
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Is it even possible that was intentional? I don't think so. How can Leonardo have known how his image would have looked transparent and flipped? He didn't paint it on glass, he painted it on a canvas.



posted on Aug, 8 2008 @ 10:09 AM
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Most of this is simply not credible.

Although the extra hand in the painting holding the knife has long been a topic of discussion.

It is generally believed to be held by St Peter and is pointed away from Jesus.



posted on Aug, 9 2008 @ 05:52 AM
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I think the suggestion is that he used mirrors to paint with. For what purpose I am unsure, but it does state it in the start of the video. I'm not saying it is genuine, just answering your query on it, as he supposedly did have the ability to paint in this way. Best Wishes.



posted on Aug, 9 2008 @ 05:56 AM
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Originally posted by Barry the Debunker
Most of this is simply not credible.

Although the extra hand in the painting holding the knife has long been a topic of discussion.

It is generally believed to be held by St Peter and is pointed away from Jesus.


Thank you for your post, would you care to elaborate further on how it is not credible. Or do we just take you at your word. With no further explanation. I'm not saying it IS credible, however I am open to the possibility.
Best Wishes.



posted on Aug, 9 2008 @ 05:59 AM
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Originally posted by autowrench
Good post and links to videos. I have been interested in this subject matter for a long time now.
I believe that Di Vinci had contracts with the Holy Church, who was the Power in his time. These contracts were to retain DV to paint and sculpt various church oriented pieces, and that Di Vinci had knowledge of estoric matters and other secret knowledge that he wanted to get out, but had to worry about the Church. So, he used codes to get the message out.


Has this got something to do with the priory of scion or something, in your opinion?



"The key to life and death is everywhere to be found, but if you do not find it in your own house, you will find it nowhere. Yet, it is before everyone's eyes; no one can live without it; everyone has used it. The poor usually possess more of it than the rich; children play with it in the streets. The meek and uneducated esteem it highly, but the privileged and learned often throw it away. When rejected, it lies dormant in the bowels of the earth. It is the only thing from which the Philosopher's Stone can be prepared, and without it, no noble metal can ever be created."
Chrétien de Troyes' Perceval, le Conte du Graal


That gets the curiosity flowing
Thanks for the comment.



posted on Aug, 9 2008 @ 06:56 AM
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With only use of mirrors, it would still not be possible. You notice, the video doesn't just flip over the image. It also makes it transparent, and overlaps it. It is this transparent overlapping that creates the image you see. With mirrors Leonardo may have been able to flip the image, but unless he had painted on glass (which he didn't), the transparent overlapping would not be possible.



posted on Aug, 9 2008 @ 07:06 AM
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Originally posted by babloyi
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With only use of mirrors, it would still not be possible. You notice, the video doesn't just flip over the image. It also makes it transparent, and overlaps it. It is this transparent overlapping that creates the image you see. With mirrors Leonardo may have been able to flip the image, but unless he had painted on glass (which he didn't), the transparent overlapping would not be possible.


It is completely possible for him to paint in this way, in my opinion. The following link gives more information on the subject...


It is well-documented that Leonardo, who lived between 1452 and 1519, often wrote in mirror writing, either in an attempt to stop his rivals stealing his ideas or in a bid to hide his scientific theories, often deemed as subversive, from the powerful Roman Catholic Church.

But now a group known as The Mirror of the Sacred Scriptures and Paintings World Foundation believes that he applied the same technique to some of his best-known creations, including the Mona Lisa and the Last Supper, to conceal mysterious faces and religious symbols.

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The figure, he said, appeared when the fresco was superimposed with its mirror image and both were made partially transparent.


Source

I am going to go with the experts on this, and say it IS completely possible he painted in this way. That wasn't the issue I was presenting, I was wondering if the above alien/jesus video was representative of that.

Best Wishes.



posted on Aug, 10 2008 @ 10:50 AM
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Here is a video showing UFO's in religious paintings of Jesus, amongst other things. I think this lends some weight to there being alien involvement in the life of Jesus. And most other religious figures.



Best Wishes



posted on Aug, 12 2008 @ 12:40 AM
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The reflection on the bottom of the picture, if anything, looks like eyes. Could just as easily be a wolf or something. Nothing at all makes it look like an alien reptile lizzard. Seems pretty far fetched.

Those paintings seem like hands down hard evidence. But if you've ever gotten into the history of art forgery you wouldn't be surprised to see a painting with mcdonald's in the background from the 15th century. No one even knows how many forgeries have been authorized into the "inner circle" of the art world. At least HALF of picasso's paintings are forgeries. Van der Meer paintings are suspected to be about 10% forgeries, and that's only what the experts allow as a reasonable guess.

People forge everything..

tonytetro.com...

just look at the ferrari, enough said. this link is just one of many. sotheby's has had the same "original" priceless painting up for sale while at the same time the painting is owned by someone in japan. it's very hectic to say the least.

still pretty convincing though, who knows.



posted on Aug, 12 2008 @ 06:48 AM
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Thanks for the post Mozzy, I had a look at your link, that guy is amazing ha! I understand what you are saying completely, it could be easily forged or corrupted. The main clip description says that the image that was used to create the video came from a book.


I personally made this video out of original photo taken from archived books


Then he says since the restoration that it no longer produces the alien effect on Jesus. Maybe it was a slight distortion on the book print, and photo'd afterwards too. So I guess we will never know for sure.

What did you make of the vid clip above, there was a raft of paintings covered, I think they are generally considered genuine in their content are they not. Lots of Ufo type images. Any views on those?

I was wary to suggest the validity of the alien/jesus video. But I think there is a lot of historical evidence for some sort of other-worldly involvement in religions. So I think that is why it caught my eye.

Oh, any comments on vitruvian man, or the other last supper interpretations I linked? Sacred geometry, Qaballah, music via the bread rolls!?! A news show decided to run it


Best Wishes.

[edit on 12-8-2008 by TrueLight]



posted on Aug, 12 2008 @ 08:07 AM
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Originally posted by TrueLight


Has this got something to do with the priory of scion or something, in your opinion?


Could very well be, but...these secret societies are secretive by their very nature. We know that Di Vinci was involved in at least one of these societies, research will bear this out. For my own self, being a long time student of the Grail Legends, I believe that the societies hold a secret that would fell the Holy Church if it ever came out, and IMHO, that secret is that Jesus/Mary had a child, a girl named Sarah, and that the present world leaders, or at least some of them.. are actually decedents of that bloodline.



"The key to life and death is everywhere to be found, but if you do not find it in your own house, you will find it nowhere. Yet, it is before everyone's eyes; no one can live without it; everyone has used it. The poor usually possess more of it than the rich; children play with it in the streets. The meek and uneducated esteem it highly, but the privileged and learned often throw it away. When rejected, it lies dormant in the bowels of the earth. It is the only thing from which the Philosopher's Stone can be prepared, and without it, no noble metal can ever be created."
Chrétien de Troyes' Perceval, le Conte du Graal


That gets the curiosity flowing
Thanks for the comment.


This is a credo of mine, I have lived by it for most of my life. I know that I am Spirit, and that I inhabit this human body for only a short time in my quest to find truth, and to experience life in the fullest way that I can.



posted on Aug, 12 2008 @ 08:43 AM
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Was Jesus an alien? Well, it depends on how one inteprets the evidence. If Jesus is the Son of God then He is originally not of this world. Then yes that would make Him an alien of some sort. Is He a reptilian or a grey? I highly doubt it.



posted on Aug, 12 2008 @ 09:19 AM
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Originally posted by autowrench
Could very well be, but...these secret societies are secretive by their very nature. We know that Di Vinci was involved in at least one of these societies, research will bear this out. For my own self, being a long time student of the Grail Legends, I believe that the societies hold a secret that would fell the Holy Church if it ever came out, and IMHO, that secret is that Jesus/Mary had a child, a girl named Sarah, and that the present world leaders, or at least some of them.. are actually decedents of that bloodline.


Yes, I have heard that also. I've read somewhere that there are splits in the bloodlines too. So whereas there is a bloodline that is claiming power by dint of such association. There is other bloodlines decended from Jesus that are hidden. Non-illuminati if you get my drift. Forgive me, but I don't know where I read that information. Perhaps you have heard of this also.

Thanks for your post.



posted on Aug, 12 2008 @ 09:28 AM
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Originally posted by darkelf
Was Jesus an alien? Well, it depends on how one inteprets the evidence. If Jesus is the Son of God then He is originally not of this world. Then yes that would make Him an alien of some sort. Is He a reptilian or a grey? I highly doubt it.


I doubt it too, maybe there was some genetic tampering, I read accounts that suggest that. I think there may have been some involvement in his life, it would stand to reason that if aliens are watching us progress that the arrival on Earth of such a person as Jesus would lead to their intense scrutiny. I think if that was the case then the ufos/crafts in the religious paintings in the most recent clip I posted would make sense. I'm not trying to question Jesus' divinity, I accept that in a vast universe there must be many Christed beings. Just personal opinions of course. It's mostly supposition based on things that I have read.


Thanks for your post.



posted on Aug, 12 2008 @ 12:33 PM
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Well like i was saying, that video was VERY convincing. Human imagination can only reproduce. It's only the super geniuss like mozart, bach, einstein, tesla etc.. that come up with new ideas.New ideas are extremely rare and should be held in the highest regard. That said, alien ships in paintings from those time periods are the closest thing to hard evidence other than a spaceship landing on the white house lawn producing an encyclopeadia galactica, full family history from their homeplanet, video footage from deep space, and a very solemn promise that they are indeed aliens.

In other words, it would be just as tough to prove aliens as it is to prove anything.

But still, the ONLY art that you can trust as authentic are the paintings that have surviving family members that can verify that their father or mother did in fact do those drawings and have written letters saying so. And even in those cases you never know.

nymag.com...

The guy from this link would have world class forgeries made then sell both the forgery and the original. The forgery was given the letters of authenticity while the original was sold w/o them because it could be validated. He'd sell the fake in Japan, the poor japanese would be too embarrassed to admit being duped. And that's how the story went.

There's another fellow, i can't remember his name but if i find the link i'll post it. He went as far as getting a job at sotheby's that allowed him access to the "holy grail" of authenticity. Shortly thereafter he faked even the book that held the master list of the authenticities and such. He would take a title like

Collected works of Picasso -

remove the binding of the book, fake the page, and make it look like

Collected works of Picasso -
and also a "such and such piece"

lol, it was total madness.

In america, france, and england forgery is taken seriously and a lot of the great forgers have been found out. Of course they never agree with the experts about how many are real and how many are forged. But in Italy for instance, forgery is a known crime that his mild punishments so it's basically a slap on the hand.

Michealangelo hiself is suspected of forging one of his own works to make it look like an ancient greek statue that he sold at high price to the church.

www.world-science.net...

so you can see that there's a great history to forgery and it's done with pride and care.



posted on Aug, 12 2008 @ 12:42 PM
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If there are aliens on this planet there can only be two options.

1. they are actually from this planet/solar system and are just greatly different than us. maybe they evolved a long time ago, left and came back. Or maybe they never left and have been out of view. In this case it's just them and whatever they created. This could mean that there is nothing particularly special about this place and it's just that they couldn't find anywhere else to go.

2. aliens are here that come from outside of our planet. if this is true then i think it's very unlikely that only one race of aliens are here. if earth has a valuable commodity, humans included, then surely other races would be interested in it as well. in this case there could be literally hundreds of alien races here. I seriously doubt they would come this far to watch dr. phil, there'd have to be something here of value.

sometimes i tend to think that the entire solar system was created artificially and there's some kind of galactic "possesion is 9/10ths of the law" situation going on.

[edit on 12-8-2008 by Mozzy]



posted on Aug, 12 2008 @ 01:07 PM
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Do I have an opinion about a conspiracy theory? lol, yeah of course. I love new theories, when I found this site I was so happy.

Anyway, the Vitruvian Man.

Well, first of all, they're not showing you all the other drafts of Da Vinci's Vitruvian man. I'm sure not all of them add up to the secret of the universe so to speak. Secondly, anyone standing in a circle can only touch certain places of the circle, unless they're playing twister. So the places his hands and feet are touching probably has nothing to do with a ressurection of jesus and more to do with "it fit the drawing" kinda thing. What are the chances that the birth date of the messiah corresponds to the places human hands and feet touch while standing in the middle of a circle? If Da Vinci painted a man with legs sticking out of his head that had 16 arms positioned all over the place then it would lend itself to the theory a lot more. As it stands it looks like great art. When mediocre minds measure up against someone like that all we can do is make measurements and comparisons. We cannot "understand" what he intended. If Da Vinci was even capable of making people understand then he would not have been an artist, he would've been a politician.

Also, these theories have a tendancy to stop when it's no longer convenient. Why stop the theory there? Let's assume that jesus is a naked white man with a seriously unsatisfied look on his face. Why not assume that the 20 fingers and 20 toes means that he'll have 20/20 vision so that he can better see your torpid soul when he grabs it with four hands and throws it into the lake of fire?

Ok enough of that.

Seriously, the circle and square are indeed sacred and this drawing reeks of mystery and occultism. It's obvious. Circle and Square represent balance and the masculine/feminine nature of the universe. The drawing shows man's position in the universe. It's an attempt to better understand our nature. It has nothing to do with jesus or any apocolypse.

[edit on 12-8-2008 by Mozzy]



posted on Aug, 13 2008 @ 07:18 AM
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Originally posted by Mozzy
That said, alien ships in paintings from those time periods are the closest thing to hard evidence other than a spaceship landing on the white house lawn producing an encyclopeadia galactica, full family history from their homeplanet, video footage from deep space, and a very solemn promise that they are indeed aliens.


I agree. So the question is then, what time period are they actually from. I suppose dating technology would prove that. As regards your alien theory, I consider the latter explanation the most likely. That there are many different types of alien species already on Earth. As for resources, well Earths resources are perhaps too numerous to list, vast cache of dna material, precious metals gold/copper, crystals, magnets, human emotional energy, abundance of wars to provide adrenaline/energy infused human......meat/blood/body parts. Anyway, thanks for your comments.


Best Wishes.



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