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reply posted on 19-4-2009 @ 09:33 PM by pluckynoonez
reply to post by Vitchilo



So, if the blogspot is true, we can have reall doo-doo hit the fan, that is if NATO and the neck-tie-eater go through with their plans. Russia will have to deal with them in a "primitive way".

www.youtube.com...

[edit on 20-4-2009 by pluckynoonez]


reply posted on 20-4-2009 @ 01:41 AM by pluckynoonez
Originally posted by pluckynoonez
reply to
post by Vitchilo



So, if the blogspot is true, we can have reall doo-doo hit the fan, that is NATO and the neck-tie-eater go through with their plans. Russia will have to deal with them in a "primitive way".

www.youtube.com...


Whoa...in my best Piano Reeves voice, it magically appeared.

But my plucky-demand still stands. Someone disprove that blogspot.



reply posted on 20-4-2009 @ 04:22 PM by MischeviousElf
reply to post by pluckynoonez



Good find Plucky,
Source has been a pretty good to date in back room intelligence and the big picture.

Well well with Israel about to go into Iran? and we all know that Georgia was going to be used as a staging or re fuelling post....

MMmmm

Of interest to all a full breakdown (that needs updating will do shortly of the known and reported news links that led to this situation originally:
Georgia*Russia*Poland Missile Defense Shield ATS Thread!

Kind Regards,

Elf


[edit on 20-4-2009 by MischeviousElf]

[edit on 20-4-2009 by MischeviousElf]


reply posted on 20-4-2009 @ 04:32 PM by MischeviousElf
reply to post by ArMaP



I suppose then you should worry less about the code and check the sources?

TBILISI (Reuters) - Georgia and Russia accused each other on Thursday of building up troops and armour at the de facto borders between their forces, and preparing "provocations."



Further


A confidential assessment compiled by EU diplomats in Georgia and seen by Reuters said the Russian reinforcements included tanks, armoured personnel carriers, artillery and "Grad" multiple-rocket launchers.


Rueturs

&


STOPOL, Ukraine -- Russian Black Sea fleet ships based in the Ukrainian port of Sevastopol are preparing for large-scale naval exercises, RFE/RL's Ukrainian Service reports.

Russian officials have notified Ukraine that 22 of its Black Sea Fleet vessels will leave Sevastopol for military maneuvers. This notification has been issued every day since the beginning of last week, but the ships' departure has been delayed for unknown reasons.

Among the ships taking part in the exercises are three large ships able to carry navy commandos. Three similar-sized ships are currently on patrol near the Georgian coast

Turkish Weekly

Something is up again

Kind Regards,

Elf


reply posted on 20-4-2009 @ 05:18 PM by pluckynoonez
reply to post by MischeviousElf



Thank you for that. And all of you. So something is stirring. NATO would be more than idiotic to go through with their exercises now. Don't mess with Russia (it's like Texas, only bigger). Their troops are better trained. They may not have the best equipment, but in hand-to-hand they would clean house.

I will search for more information too.



[edit on 20-4-2009 by pluckynoonez]


reply posted on 20-4-2009 @ 05:37 PM by Vitchilo
NATO To Press On With Georgia Exercises Despite Russia Threat

I'm sure that the next big NATO move is to put warships in Sevastopol once Russia is kicked out.


reply posted on 24-4-2009 @ 02:21 AM by Vitchilo
A few update on the whole situation...

On one side...

Russia prepared to 'significantly' cut nuclear arsenal: general


"In this treaty, which should replace the START treaty, it is necessary to limit the delivery systems of the nuclear warheads and not only the quantity of warheads themselves -- taking into account intercontinental ballistic missiles, and submarine-based ballistic missiles and heavy bombers that carry nuclear means," he said.

Medvedev said it was important to prevent the placing of strategic weapons outside national borders or in space and added that countries should not be able to build up conventional forces to compensate for cuts in nuclear ones.


And the other...

Russia accuses US on missile shield


A top Russian official on Tuesday accused the US administration of President Barack Obama of intensifying missile defence plans and said Russia saw no basis for big cuts in its nuclear arsenal.

DUH.



reply posted on 24-4-2009 @ 05:12 PM by Vitchilo
reply to post by pluckynoonez



Do Saakasvilli wants to provoke the Russians just before the NATO exercise in 2 weeks? Or is it some rogue polices doing this?


reply posted on 1-5-2009 @ 09:11 PM by Vitchilo
Georgia, Russia spat over border defense pacts

MOSCOW, May 1 (Xinhua) -- Georgia strongly condemns the April 30 border defense pacts signed between Russia and Georgia's two breakaway regions South Ossetia and Abkhazia, Russian news agencies reported on Friday, citing a statement issued by the Georgian Foreign Ministry.

NATO and the Czech EU Presidency also voiced concerns over the agreements, regarding the documents as a breach of the previous ceasefire agreements reached between Russia and Georgia.

The documents are "another attempt of Russia to enlarge its military presence on the occupied Georgian lands, in the Abkhaz and Tskhinvali districts," the Itar-Tass news agency reported, citing a statement issued by the Foreign Ministry of Georgia on Friday.

  "By doing so, Russia opposes itself to the international community and violates fundamental principles and international laws, as well as the ceasefire agreement of Aug. 12, 2008, reached between Russia and Georgia with the mediation of French President Nicolas Sarkozy," said the statement.

Interesting. Tensions growing back up between Georgia and Russia.


reply posted on 2-5-2009 @ 07:29 AM by SKUNK2
Originally posted by pluckynoonez
reply to
post by MischeviousElf



Thank you for that. And all of you. So something is stirring. NATO would be more than idiotic to go through with their exercises now. Don't mess with Russia (it's like Texas, only bigger). Their troops are better trained. They may not have the best equipment, but in hand-to-hand they would clean house.

I will search for more information too.



[edit on 20-4-2009 by pluckynoonez]

75% of Russias armed forces are conscripts.......So your saying a conscript is trained better than a career soldier???
The rest of your post is just ridiculous, but i'm not going into that....


reply posted on 2-5-2009 @ 08:18 AM by tristar
reply to post by SKUNK2



Not to be a party pooper, but you need to understand that from that 75%, about 30% are battle ridden and tested strike forces.
Similar methods are used in the Israeli army. Lets not forget that Israel has managed to survive as a so called Nation from constant wars with its surrounding neighbors. Obviously the E.U. is becoming increasingly tired of its method since its being backed by the U.S. , but you will also notice that even the U.S. is beginning to re-access, who is more valuable as an allie, Israel or the E.U. / Russian / Asia (Pact SOK-SCO).
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