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reply posted on 11-8-2008 @ 07:02 PM by zman
www.nato.int...

It seems that Nato, which is mostly controlled by the Eu should take control of this situation. Now I am an American, this does not have anything to do with us, its your neighbor. You deal with it. Stop thinking that we, us Americans can at will do the will of you that scream for a solution. We Amercians have to deal with what we have at home here to. Like electing a new president. Getting our finacials in order. Helping people , like we do, does put a drain on all of here in the US. For once I would like to see all of the Eu stand up and do something. Now I understand the implications of fuel from Russia and that should be why you do not speak up and offer any help to your neighbor. You are , in my mind spineless and cruel to let your neighbor die.


reply posted on 11-8-2008 @ 07:09 PM by mopusvindictus
Originally posted by zman
www.nato.int...

It seems that Nato, which is mostly controlled by the Eu should take control of this situation. Now I am an American, this does not have anything to do with us, its your neighbor. You deal with it. Stop thinking that we, us Americans can at will do the will of you that scream for a solution. We Amercians have to deal with what we have at home here to. Like electing a new president. Getting our finacials in order. Helping people , like we do, does put a drain on all of here in the US. For once I would like to see all of the Eu stand up and do something. Now I understand the implications of fuel from Russia and that should be why you do not speak up and offer any help to your neighbor. You are , in my mind spineless and cruel to let your neighbor die.




Lets call a spade a spade... we started this

Not the EU, it has been US pressure all along to expand nato to Russias borders and US pressure throughout Eastern Europe to lay down our missile defense systems there.

This is why Russia is really doing this

I for one am still an American and... taking responsability for our actions I think... is a good place to start in remembering what makes us a great nation



reply posted on 11-8-2008 @ 07:14 PM by mrmonsoon
"Georgia: Russians close off strategic Georgian port"
Source

"Russia's over-running of Senaki, a town 25 miles inland from Poti, has effectively shut down the country's biggest commercial port.
The move will, officials say, starve the country of more than half of its imports of key products like wheat, grain, tinned food and cars"
source

It seems to me, this is getting worse.


reply posted on 11-8-2008 @ 07:14 PM by ArMaP
reply to post by LiquidMirage



I think that a better name would be "auto-puppet"; they are not put there as a puppet for the US (in this case), they offer their services as a US-puppet because they think that it's a sure way of getting to the top of the world.

In some cases they do reach the top of the world, like James Cagney in "White Heat"...


reply posted on 11-8-2008 @ 07:18 PM by Res Ipsa




reply posted on 11-8-2008 @ 07:21 PM by ArMaP
reply to post by mrmonsoon



I have seen so many times statements from "officials" that turned out to be false that I think this is just one more of those statements.

Also, if at around 19:00 (Georgia time) they were not able to know if Gori was occupied by the Russians or not, I don't think that now (03:20) they know what is happening in a city that is even farther from Tbilisi than Gori.

I will wait until tomorrow (I do not loose any sleep over this, but I have lost my days since Friday, what a way to spend my vacations )


reply posted on 11-8-2008 @ 07:25 PM by mattguy404
Originally posted by RenegadePsycho
Originally posted by D.E.M.
CNN has just stated that we have a very high potential of being not just on the brink, but in the opening throes of a new cold war. Or at least a re-flaming of the original.


Its nice of CNN to jump onto our thread with what we have been discussing for days. The fact this thing may kick off another war... well a world war/cold war...

nice find & great contribution to the thread D.E.M


Hmm, I don't know, I wouldn't pay much attention to what analysts are saying. About 40 or so pages ago I posted a YouTube clip of the Soviet anthem just for giggles - but it's clear that analysts are saying that Russia are going to re-absorb the republics just to put a spin on it.

Now we're getting more US statements telling Russia to halt:

U.S. tells Russia to halt Georgia conflict


"Russia has invaded a sovereign neighboring state and threatens a democratic government elected by its people. Such an action is unacceptable in the 21st century," Bush said.
Moscow snubbed Western pleas for a ceasefire, and Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, taking a leading role in the crisis, criticized Washington for casting Georgians as the victims rather than aggressors in the conflict.
"The Cold War has long ended but the mentality of the Cold War has stayed firmly in the minds of several U.S. diplomats. It is a real shame," Putin said.


www.alertnet.org...

Well, I guess Putin still thinks the Cold War sentiments of the US didn't end at least.




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