Israel warns Russia: We'll neutralize S-300 if sold to Iran, page 1

Israel warns Russia: We'll neutralize S-300 if sold to Iran

www.jpost.com

A top IAF officer also said this week that Israel needed to do "everything possible" to prevent the S-300 from reaching the region.

Neutralization of one of the main components of Russian air defense would be a blow to Russian national security as well as to defense exports. "No country will want to buy the system if it is proven to be ineffective," the official said. "For these reasons, Russia may not deliver it in the end to Iran."

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Yes I know, another 'Iran' news item, but I found this interesting because Israel are now warning Russia about what it can and cannot sell to Iran.

Russia still deny they're selling the S-300 to anyone.

'Neutralizing' Russian defenses? Hmm, sounds familiar.

www.jpost.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

I highly doubt a fairly limited amount of S-300s would change much.... like usual, you create tactics to defeat the anti-air missiles... and the IAF is HARDCORE.

reply to post by Harlequin

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Israel would tear Russias head off?

[edit on 8/8/2008 by C0bzz]

reply to post by C0bzz

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lol - no , russia would turn round and flatten israel if israel attacked them

reply to post by manson_322

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You try to portray yourself as the voice of reason and sanity with such a sick, abhorrant and inhumane comment like that?

You've exposed yourself for what you really are.

reply to post by theblunttruth

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I am not it was all that inhumane actually. It was simply putting the shoe on the other foot. Alot of people on here have stated outright, that if Iran dare do anything to Israel that Israel should "glass" them. How is his remark any different than theirs? Is it ok to use that exact same remark and replace Russia with Israel and Israel with Iran so it would read:

If Iran dares to attack Israel , Israel must anhilate Iran with a massive nuclear response

I personally don't want to see anything of this sort happen. I am merely pointing out yet another hypocrisy.

Even if Israel were to use some kind of electronic means of neutralizing these missiles, Russia could take that as an act of war. Israel would be meddling with the actions of a sovereign nation. Russia would not stand for that. We all know the US wouldn't, and I am pretty sure we could expect a response.

reply to post by manson_322

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Actually, russia will invate Israel and be destroyed by and act of God....reference..."see revelations"..........

reply to post by heliosprime

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as , i can see , more BS from Bible thumpers ,

CaptGizmo said:

Russia "must"? annihilate Israel....hmmm highly unlikely.You see manson if the Russians where to do that then we would annihilate Russia.The Russians would volley with their nukes, then our allies would be pulled in to it.You would have millions upon millions dead.Don't think India would be safe from all of it either...Pakistan would use the opportunity to flex it's nuclear muscle upon its dreaded enemy....you guys in India. If I were you I would stop all this hatred and talk of waging nuclear war..because it might just end up on your door step one day.If you are so gung ho about weaponry of your beloved Muslims and communist friends then why don't you join the service of your country and fight for that piece of land you and Pakistan are always claiming rights to (Kashmir).

and lol, Russia would anhilate USA and the West , and yes Russia would survive(1/2 population would survive ) thanks to massive civil defence network that it built during soviet era

If you are so gung ho about weaponry of your beloved Muslims and communist friends

Muslim friends ???


what kind of BS is this???

Don't think India would be safe from all of it either...Pakistan would use the opportunity to flex it's nuclear muscle upon its dreaded enemy....you guys in India.

Pakistan is a CIA backed , after all terrorists were funded by CIA and saudi Arabia against Soviet Union and India


by the way, USA should concentrate on econmy , after all the Comptroller General of USA , warned USA is going down like Rome

[edit on 8-8-2008 by manson_322]

reply to post by manson_322

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You clearly did not understand my post. Let me simplify it for you,ok. 1) I am the farthest thing from a bible thumper....I don't even practice a religion.2) your idea that 1/2 of Russia's population would survive is such a ridicules statement.If there is nuclear war between just the US an Russia...NO ONE WILL SURVIVE. I am trying to say if it starts then the whole world will be destroyed.Lets say for a second you are right and 1/2 their population survives.Survives what...they will all be dead in 1-3 months time from radioactive fallout.Pakistan is CIA backed?....don't be so obtuse to think our spy agency has the resources or the ability to control the entire country of Pakistan or Saudia Arabia.:lol
3) in another thread you made that statement that our comptroller said the U.S. is going the way of Rome. I asked you then for the interview or article where he made that statement and you did not reply.I would be interested in reading that...So I will ask again...do you have the link to that statement.


P.S. never mind about the link to the comptrollers statements...I went ahead and found it myself.
[edit on 8/8/2008 by CaptGizmo]

[edit on 8/8/2008 by CaptGizmo]

Can we just stick to the topic at hand here folks?

I noticed a few things here:

1. This is the Jerusalem Post talking out of their ass.... again.

Neutralising S-300's? I'd like to see Israel try, I really would, with it's F-16's and F-4's.
They'd get destroyed before they even acquired a radar signature. These aren't infrared-homing RPGs were talking about here.

The SA-10 Grumble is one of the world's most advanced S-2-A Systems.
Engages 12 targets simultaneously (tracks upto 100), Mach 6 missiles, with the latest variants having a 400km range and an intercept ceiling of 27km.

Heavy duty stuff to say the least. There's no way conventional fighter groups would stand a reasonable chance of taking out the batteries without either massive numbers, electronic jammers or ground support.

2. Iran has ALREADY ordered the S-300 system and according to most sources Russia is still staunchly backing this deal:
www.zimbio.com...

3. Simply because Iran has/or could have the launchers in their hands doesn't immediately make them potent weapons.
It would take a minimum of 6 months for Iran to fully deploy these and have trained operators manning them.

It's not just a case of "lock & load", the S-300's require a huge complement of high band radars and other expensive components to function properly.
There's the missiles, the TEL's (Transporter-Erector-Launcher), high band radar trucks, stationary warning radars, fuel etc...

These things are sold in big packages, that would take some time to fully assemble in Iran. Then they have to be staffed properly to be effective and that requires a lot of training.

I think Israel's itchy trigger finger is adversely affecting their ability to THINK.

It's like weapons grade plutonium in the hands of a 10 year old. Yeah sure it could be deadly, but this kid doesn't realise what it is or how to use it.

Originally posted by Harlequin
reply to post by C0bzz

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lol - no , russia would turn round and flatten israel if israel attacked them

And then it would be ON!

WWIV Right there.

Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
Can we just stick to the topic at hand here folks?

I noticed a few things here:

1. This is the Jerusalem Post talking out of their ass.... again.

Neutralising S-300's? I'd like to see Israel try, I really would, with it's F-16's and F-4's.
They'd get destroyed before they even acquired a radar signature. These aren't infrared-homing RPGs were talking about here.

The SA-10 Grumble is one of the world's most advanced S-2-A Systems.
Engages 12 targets simultaneously (tracks upto 100), Mach 6 missiles, with the latest variants having a 400km range and an intercept ceiling of 27km.

Heavy duty stuff to say the least. There's no way conventional fighter groups would stand a reasonable chance of taking out the batteries without either massive numbers, electronic jammers or ground support.

2. Iran has ALREADY ordered the S-300 system and according to most sources Russia is still staunchly backing this deal:
www.zimbio.com...

3. Simply because Iran has/or could have the launchers in their hands doesn't immediately make them potent weapons.
It would take a minimum of 6 months for Iran to fully deploy these and have trained operators manning them.

It's not just a case of "lock & load", the S-300's require a huge complement of high band radars and other expensive components to function properly.
There's the missiles, the TEL's (Transporter-Erector-Launcher), high band radar trucks, stationary warning radars, fuel etc...

These things are sold in big packages, that would take some time to fully assemble in Iran. Then they have to be staffed properly to be effective and that requires a lot of training.

I think Israel's itchy trigger finger is adversely affecting their ability to THINK.

It's like weapons grade plutonium in the hands of a 10 year old. Yeah sure it could be deadly, but this kid doesn't realise what it is or how to use it.

I love reading your posts!

Israel threatning Russia is a 'Big Laff' really.

It is very unlikely israel can even defeat Iran in a long war,russia is a total different ball game.Israel can get all the weapons it wants from daddy US for the safety of the 'chosen ones' but when others gear up because they feel threatened of israel it suddenly becomes a BIG NO NO!

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