Israel warns Russia: We'll neutralize S-300 if sold to Iran

Israel warns Russia: We'll neutralize S-300 if sold to Iran

www.jpost.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

Yes I know, another 'Iran' news item, but I found this interesting because Israel are now warning Russia about what it can and cannot sell to Iran.

Russia still deny they're selling the S-300 to anyone.

'Neutralizing' Russian defenses? Hmm, sounds familiar.

www.jpost.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

and now israel threaten russia - do not poke the bear or it will tear your head off

I highly doubt a fairly limited amount of S-300s would change much.... like usual, you create tactics to defeat the anti-air missiles... and the IAF is HARDCORE.

reply to post by Harlequin

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Israel would tear Russias head off?

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i agree with this actually... Isreal should...walk quiet through this and if it HAS to do something do it...

But, Russia...and I mean this is common sense, is wanting to reclaim super poer status... some people in Russia...sting... they want to feel secure like anyone else...

and... that's just antagonizing and poushing buttons...

Isreal is tough..but it's not Russia... it's like a woman who hits her boyfriend all the time... eventually he might just get pissed off... the reprocustions of that might be awful... for Russia/the guy

But come on... she?isreal will still get knocked the F out and loose her face before it's over...

Some things you don't do... the relationship analogy..I think is valid...

Women have alot of power over men... Isreal with Nukes has...alot of power...

But a comment like that is... telling Russia it has a small D1c1

It's just foolish

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lol - no , russia would turn round and flatten israel if israel attacked them

If Israel dares to attack Russia , Russia must anhilate Israel with a massive nuclear response

I doubt Israel will attack the SAMs openly. They certainly won't attack Russia. It'll be a sabotage/special forces operation if anything, much like they did with the Iraqi nuclear reactor - when it was under construction in France, it was mysteriously sabotaged (by Mossad, no doubt). I suspect a similar thing may happen with the S-300s.

I guess the guy talks about electronic warfare. There was strike in Syria recently when Russian-made SAM systems did not respond. So the same probably is described. So technology could be sold in open and so make this system less effective and less purchased. But answer will be found , it is a game of sword and shield. In any case, stupid threat made arrogantly in media.
Israel attacking Russia is a ridiculous idea. Population of Israel is considerably less then population of Moscow.
And intelligence operation - well, Russian intelligence is in my opinion much more effective and better funded.Not to mention that every single system has to be messed with, not possible.

Yes this is electronic. israel wont have to bomb any sites, they can basically fry the electronics from the air and have nothing to worry about.

What the hell kind of statment is that to make! You do realise that a massive nuclear response would mean millions dead and possibly throw the whole world into conflict...please tell me you understand this!?

The article doesn't say Israel would attack Russia.



They say if the system is delivered an EW device will likely be created to combat it, which would leave Russia vulnerable as they use the same system for there air defence. That in no way implies Israel would attack Russia

Your remark was way over the top

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You try to portray yourself as the voice of reason and sanity with such a sick, abhorrant and inhumane comment like that?

You've exposed yourself for what you really are.

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I am not it was all that inhumane actually. It was simply putting the shoe on the other foot. Alot of people on here have stated outright, that if Iran dare do anything to Israel that Israel should "glass" them. How is his remark any different than theirs? Is it ok to use that exact same remark and replace Russia with Israel and Israel with Iran so it would read:



I personally don't want to see anything of this sort happen. I am merely pointing out yet another hypocrisy.

Even if Israel were to use some kind of electronic means of neutralizing these missiles, Russia could take that as an act of war. Israel would be meddling with the actions of a sovereign nation. Russia would not stand for that. We all know the US wouldn't, and I am pretty sure we could expect a response.

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Actually, russia will invate Israel and be destroyed by and act of God....reference..."see revelations"..........

Russia "must"? annihilate Israel....hmmm highly unlikely.You see manson if the
Russians where to do that then we would annihilate Russia.The Russians would volley with their nukes, then our allies would be pulled in to it.You would have millions upon millions dead.Don't think India would be safe from all of it either...Pakistan would use the opportunity to flex it's nuclear muscle upon its dreaded enemy....you guys in India. If I were you I would stop all this hatred and talk of waging nuclear war..because it might just end up on your door step one day.If you are so gung ho about weaponry of your beloved Muslims and communist friends then why don't you join the service of your country and fight for that piece of land you and Pakistan are always claiming rights to (Kashmir).

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as , i can see , more BS from Bible thumpers ,

CaptGizmo said:


and lol, Russia would anhilate USA and the West , and yes Russia would survive(1/2 population would survive ) thanks to massive civil defence network that it built during soviet era



Muslim friends ???


what kind of BS is this???




Pakistan is a CIA backed , after all terrorists were funded by CIA and saudi Arabia against Soviet Union and India


by the way, USA should concentrate on econmy , after all the Comptroller General of USA , warned USA is going down like Rome

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You clearly did not understand my post. Let me simplify it for you,ok. 1) I am the farthest thing from a bible thumper....I don't even practice a religion.2) your idea that 1/2 of Russia's population would survive is such a ridicules statement.If there is nuclear war between just the US an Russia...NO ONE WILL SURVIVE. I am trying to say if it starts then the whole world will be destroyed.Lets say for a second you are right and 1/2 their population survives.Survives what...they will all be dead in 1-3 months time from radioactive fallout.Pakistan is CIA backed?....don't be so obtuse to think our spy agency has the resources or the ability to control the entire country of Pakistan or Saudia Arabia.:lol
3) in another thread you made that statement that our comptroller said the U.S. is going the way of Rome. I asked you then for the interview or article where he made that statement and you did not reply.I would be interested in reading that...So I will ask again...do you have the link to that statement.


P.S. never mind about the link to the comptrollers statements...I went ahead and found it myself.
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Can we just stick to the topic at hand here folks?

I noticed a few things here:

1. This is the Jerusalem Post talking out of their ass.... again.

Neutralising S-300's? I'd like to see Israel try, I really would, with it's F-16's and F-4's.
They'd get destroyed before they even acquired a radar signature. These aren't infrared-homing RPGs were talking about here.

The SA-10 Grumble is one of the world's most advanced S-2-A Systems.
Engages 12 targets simultaneously (tracks upto 100), Mach 6 missiles, with the latest variants having a 400km range and an intercept ceiling of 27km.

Heavy duty stuff to say the least. There's no way conventional fighter groups would stand a reasonable chance of taking out the batteries without either massive numbers, electronic jammers or ground support.

2. Iran has ALREADY ordered the S-300 system and according to most sources Russia is still staunchly backing this deal:
www.zimbio.com...

3. Simply because Iran has/or could have the launchers in their hands doesn't immediately make them potent weapons.
It would take a minimum of 6 months for Iran to fully deploy these and have trained operators manning them.

It's not just a case of "lock & load", the S-300's require a huge complement of high band radars and other expensive components to function properly.
There's the missiles, the TEL's (Transporter-Erector-Launcher), high band radar trucks, stationary warning radars, fuel etc...

These things are sold in big packages, that would take some time to fully assemble in Iran. Then they have to be staffed properly to be effective and that requires a lot of training.

I think Israel's itchy trigger finger is adversely affecting their ability to THINK.

It's like weapons grade plutonium in the hands of a 10 year old. Yeah sure it could be deadly, but this kid doesn't realise what it is or how to use it.

And then it would be ON!

WWIV Right there.

I love reading your posts!

Israel threatning Russia is a 'Big Laff' really.

It is very unlikely israel can even defeat Iran in a long war,russia is a total different ball game.Israel can get all the weapons it wants from daddy US for the safety of the 'chosen ones' but when others gear up because they feel threatened of israel it suddenly becomes a BIG NO NO!