Citizens Would Not Cooperate With A Draft Would They?, page 1
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Topic started on 7-8-2008 @ 10:10 PM by SpartanKingLeonidas
I do not know anyone who would cooperate with a draft if one was enacted. I'm beginning this thread because of another one on the same Above Politics Forum where someone states a draft is a necessary thing. Why on Earth would we need a draft for a war we know our President lied to get us tied to and into to begin with?

There have been countless news stories that are out that Bush lied about Intelligence information just to get us into Iraq, so why would any citizens in their right mind, or for that matter, their left mind, want to cooperate in a draft if one were enacted?

Are we as citizens that ignorant as to want to rush off to our deaths to perpetuate a lie for our country? I'm a student of history, especially war history, I've read, learned, and lived the Art of War all of My life, and as I have come to understand war, it is only good for population control through sending citizens off to the battle lines as cannon fodder, to kill other people of other countries where their politicians told them the same exact lies just through a different belief system, different set of religious beliefs, and a different flag they believe in.

Politicians get paid through legal bribery, or lobbying, which is a nice way of saying surrogate bribery in order to cause Foreign Policy shifts which get our country as well as others embroiled in yet another needless war, by enacting people through powerful control words like "patriotism", "freedom", and "democracy" to go off to their deaths willingly, in order to perpetuate the cycle of life and death faster so that no one has time to think about the consequences of their actions on Capitol Hill.

There is no need, nor real reason for a draft, other than to be forced, instead of willingly choosing, to go to a war we as citizens never wanted to begin with.

[edit on 7-8-2008 by SpartanKingLeonidas]


reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 10:40 PM by SpartanKingLeonidas
Originally posted by UFOTECH
They want an endless war to replace the very profitable cold war. A new war that has a less defined enemy that can never be defeated and can be made up entirely by covert actions and faked video fictions by private intel services.

People had better wake up and smell the BS or this nation is done.


I can only answer for what I think, not other people's thoughts, nor threads I know noting about.

But that's just the point, is it not, to have an enemy that is always there, and that can never be defeated, would mean and endless paycheck to those people in power. If you make up a reason for war, and can make enough people believe in the false propaganda that it's something that's needed, then you can make a paycheck that in unnending and a perpetual war, where the enemy is "supposedly" living right next to you, so in not trusting your neighbor, you never know who to trust ever again.

This is Divide and Conquer at it's simplest form.

If you make the populace believe that the next door neighbor could be a "terrorist", if you make the populace believe that someone in their family might be a "terrorist", if you make the populace believe that those most trusted of people are in fact, or could possibly be a "terrorist", then you have divided a nation against itself.

OOOhhh,..."terror, terror, terror" everywhere.

Right, and I have two buildings in New York City to sell you. You just have to look real hard to see them.

[edit on 7-8-2008 by SpartanKingLeonidas]



reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 11:12 PM by SpartanKingLeonidas
reply to post by UFOTECH



I agree as well. To have a self-perpetuating cycle that creates a endless war, would make the paychecks constant, the budgets rise, and the need for Government more instead of less, if they believe the lies.

Government is only needed for the reason of running the country, not enslaving it through perpetual lies.


reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 11:19 PM by SpartanKingLeonidas
reply to post by CallMeMaury



Draft dodge? Run to Canada? Nope and nope.

I see that people can make other choices though, like signing protest sheets, like marching on Washington D.C. in a peaceful and civil manner.

There are countless options other than dodging a baloney war, and running forever.


reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 12:34 AM by SpartanKingLeonidas
reply to post by Magnivea



Ponch?

The Paranormal Forum is where you make predictions, especially ones that are open to the point of disbelief.

I saw that thread, and it's his/her right to think what he/she wants.

I don't see a draft as a good thing, it's a way of forcing people to go against their beliefs.

Plain and simple.

I had a friend ask if I would join before I was drafted, I told her a draft isn't happening, and I'm not joining, period.

[edit on 8-8-2008 by SpartanKingLeonidas]


reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 12:57 AM by SpartanKingLeonidas
reply to post by Taledus



The only difference this time, between Vietnam and Iraq, will be the fact that you won't just be carted off to jail. You will be labeled as a "terrorist-collaborator" if you don't go along with the draft, from the patterns I'm seeing.


reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 04:13 AM by malganis
reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas



yeah that's true, you'll be looked down on if you didn't go fight the phony wars. it would be a case of 'you're either with us or against us' on the country's own citizens, with 'us' referring to the government.


reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 11:46 PM by SpartanKingLeonidas
Originally posted by malganis
reply to
post by SpartanKingLeonidas



yeah that's true, you'll be looked down on if you didn't go fight the phony wars. it would be a case of 'you're either with us or against us' on the country's own citizens, with 'us' referring to the government.


Yes, this is exactly the mentality that most people will have used against them.

A draft is not necessary, when the war was never necessary, correct?



reply posted on 9-8-2008 @ 03:40 AM by malganis
reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas



I think the draft is only necessary if your country is actually under threat of being invaded or destroyed. Fighting a phony overseas invasion on false information is not a good reason for a draft.
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