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I saw the Stars moving in formation again! This Time PICS


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reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 02:48 PM by isa75


At least you were able to post your pics regardles of what it is. Thank you so much for sharing. I never see anything at nite when I go out.

I flagged your thread because at least you were able to put up pics.



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reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 03:55 PM by Res Ipsa


Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
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Don't know much about the recent satellites but the original NOSS (Naval Ocean Surveillance System) where in three's. They orbit the Earth at a height of 1100km and form a triangle roughly 100km across. As far as I know they are still in existence and may account for this sighting...


God Bless some of you people!

I was hoping someone would just answer my question with out me posting but this is so close that I would like just a bit more so I have to wade in here with the tin hat crowd.

I know what satelites look like, you can spot a ton of them in northern Minnesota and especially in the boundary waters. I saw the large triangle formed by three normal looking satelites, but this triangle was more equal on all sides and an equal distance apart......this was October of 2004 so maybe I don't remember it right. They were brighter and lower than most satelites I have seen and they were very far apart. I would have guessed at least 100 miles apart rather than 60 but for all I know they were 5 miles apart.

Could a learned person tell me what kind of satelite array that would be and why I haven't seen it before or since? Please don't respond to this post if you are going to give me some ET opinion.

Which also reminds me.....if the op saw what I saw then it would be pointless to take pictures. Do any of you have a good picture of a satelite going over head? This is man made. I want a science answer based on reality please.

Why haven't I seen NOSS before? But if that was what it was than cool with me.



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reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 04:20 PM by The_Glen


Well I don't think I would see 18 satelites at one time but you can post a pic just to compare.



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reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 04:40 PM by Scott


The same night and about the same time you posted this I was walking around Glencoe, IL with some friends and several of my friends claimed to have seen exactly what your talking about. Although I missed that sighting, I have seen lots of strange lights moving around in the sky. Last week I saw what I assumed to be a satellite but then it made at 90 degree turn and shot off extremely fast.



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reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 05:24 PM by Mintwithahole.


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I'm not saying I know for sure that the White Cloud (NOSS) satellites are the answer to this puzzle but it is something I personally would look at.
Each of the satellites messures roughly three metres in length and are able to locate radio and radars (ship based) using triangulation, and can identify naval units by analysis of the operating frequencies and transmission patterns. It used the TDOA ( time difference of arrival) technique to accomplish this task.
I also believe there is a four satellite system based on the ELINT system primarily used for over the horizon targeting for warships etc. Like I said before, I'm not making any claims but this could supply the answer to this puzzle.



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reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 05:42 PM by The_Glen


Originally posted by Scott
The same night and about the same time you posted this I was walking around Glencoe, IL with some friends and several of my friends claimed to have seen exactly what your talking about. Although I missed that sighting, I have seen lots of strange lights moving around in the sky. Last week I saw what I assumed to be a satellite but then it made at 90 degree turn and shot off extremely fast.

Wow we got confirmation! Glenco is not far from here at all. Care to say what your friends said to you in more detail? Ilinois is seeming to have a hot spot for these now eh?

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reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 07:30 PM by Res Ipsa


Scott, could you u2u your 90degree satelite story to me?
( I just got tagged for 20pts for a one liner in another thread so I need to extend this one)
I am interested in knowing what you thought you saw when you saw it just prior to it zooming off. Did you think you were watching a satelite? anything else odd about it other than the 90 degree thing of course?
....hey, if you want just post it here, I don't need to respond, if it sounds similiar enough I can just u2u you. ( I got good enough answers about this triangle satelite formation and it is just too good to be true that I could also get my 1986 question answered too....love this ATS!)



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reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 07:47 PM by Malynn


I think the pictures posted by the OP are quite interesting. Granted, I'm not any kind of photo expert or analyst, but still. They look a bit too large to be satellites in my opinion.



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reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 08:35 PM by The_Glen


I'll see if Internos will take a look at them.

EDIT: Wow what happened to the U2u button?

Double Edit: Nevermind

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reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 09:07 PM by roadgravel


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Here is a link to NOSS satellite info.

A Google search will bring up more.



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reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 09:16 PM by Res Ipsa


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dude, that was great, thank you.

is there a way I can confirm that they were what I saw in Sept or Oct of 2004 in Northern Minnesota or is that an off the scale expectation to find that? There were for sure 3 of them.



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reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 10:30 PM by freakngeckos


Okay finally see what your talking about, it just looks like various lights of which could be the sky. It's so difficult I couldn't say what's what but all I can say is thanks for trying.



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reply posted on 9-8-2008 @ 12:02 AM by virraszto


Seems there's been a lot of activity in the skies lately. On the 1st of Aug, I saw a white orb about 50 ft in the air fly by. It wasn't a shooting star...it didn't come downward, it went across the sky.

Then last night I saw something else. The best way to describe it, I guess would be a huge glowstick zooming horizontally about 100 ft above treetop level. It went really fast. I'm guessing the size of it was apx.50 ft long. It was a whitish yellow glowing color. It was low enough that it wasn't an illusion of falling across the sky....it was moving very fast across the sky and just disappeared. I was walking back up the driveway from taking out the trash and out of the corner of my eye, saw a huge bright flash/light that lit up the sky. So I quickly turned and looked up and saw it. I have no idea what it was. It flew by and I got a 4 second or so look at it. It was rectangular, long and thin and glowing. Weird!



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reply posted on 9-8-2008 @ 12:11 AM by The_Glen


Originally posted by virraszto
Seems there's been a lot of activity in the skies lately. On the 1st of Aug, I saw a white orb about 50 ft in the air fly by. It wasn't a shooting star...it didn't come downward, it went across the sky.

Then last night I saw something else. The best way to describe it, I guess would be a huge glowstick zooming horizontally about 100 ft above treetop level. It went really fast. I'm guessing the size of it was apx.50 ft long. It was a whitish yellow glowing color. It was low enough that it wasn't an illusion of falling across the sky....it was moving very fast across the sky and just disappeared. I was walking back up the driveway from taking out the trash and out of the corner of my eye, saw a huge bright flash/light that lit up the sky. So I quickly turned and looked up and saw it. I have no idea what it was. It flew by and I got a 4 second or so look at it. It was rectangular, long and thin and glowing. Weird!

You saw this after my sighting on August 1st could of been the same object I saw.



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reply posted on 9-8-2008 @ 12:17 AM by virraszto


It could have been. I can't believe how much activity there has been lately. I've been going out every night for the past week or so. I've captured things in photos. Sure wish I could have got that thing I saw last night on film. From now on, when I go outside at night I bring a camera with me.



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reply posted on 9-8-2008 @ 12:52 AM by The_Glen


Originally posted by virraszto
It could have been. I can't believe how much activity there has been lately. I've been going out every night for the past week or so. I've captured things in photos. Sure wish I could have got that thing I saw last night on film. From now on, when I go outside at night I bring a camera with me.

Same but my camera is so crappy....I bet you can buy it for $20 now.



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reply posted on 9-8-2008 @ 07:24 AM by Varrin7


Originally posted by rihred0
2 spheres with a light source, would have the same side lighten up, especially at a distance with a distant light source...


Not in every case. If the objects were giving off its own light, that could explain the difference.



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reply posted on 9-8-2008 @ 09:57 AM by roadgravel


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The Heavens-Above.com site is good for research. I haven't tried to go back 3 or 4 years in the listing but you can try. I might check into it later if I have a chance.

On that site, to check NOSS, you have to know the IDs to check as they don't list them in the daily passes, or so it seems. For instance, if you are interested in USA-160, you check passes for that satellite or object. You will get a listing for you location after using the 'passes' link on the page for the object. I have identified NOSS passes using that method.

Hope that helps.


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