NSA archives: Flight 93 shot down, page 1
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Topic started on 7-8-2008 @ 02:39 PM by ULTIMA1
Here is some evidnece from the NSA archives that Flight 93 was shot down.

Will get more information as it becomes available and unclassified.


onlinejournal.com...
On October 29, 2007, WMR reported: “According to U.S. intelligence sources, the archives of the National Security Agency (NSA), available to cleared users via the INTELINK network, contains an archive of Flash precedence and Sensitive Compartmented Information (SCI) NSA intelligence messages known as ‘CRITICs.’

One such CRITIC from September 11, 2001, which includes a number of follow-on intelligence reports, concerns United Airlines flight 93, downed over Shanksville, Pennsylvania. However, the CRITIC is at odds with the official account of the fate of United 93, which is that passengers and crew attacked the hijackers and forced the plane to crash into the ground.

The NSA CRITIC, according to sources who have seen it, is about five or six sentences, and paraphrasically states:

“Two F-16s scrambled from Andrews Air Force Base at [likely 1336 Zulu]. Civilian airline hijacked. Over state of Pennsylvania civilian airliner was ‘intercepted’ at (Latitude and Longitude of intercept].”

Several follow-up CRITICs are appended to the first United 93-related CRITIC. One follow-up CRITIC mentioned a possible fifth hijacked plane flying south from Canada that was near the Canadian-U.S. border. Another CRITIC states the plane ‘intercepted’ over Pennsylvania was ‘confirmed civilian.’

On April 16, 2008, WMR reported: “WMR has received another confirmation, bringing the total number to three, that United Flight 93, hijacked on the morning of September 11, 2001, was shot down over rural Pennsylvania by U.S. Air Force jets scrambled from Andrews Air Force Base in Maryland. There are also reports that one F-16 scrambled from Langley Air Force Base in Virginia returned to base minus one air-to-air missile but the National Security Agency CRITIC report specified the interceptors that downed United 93 took off from Andrews.

“The third confirmation, as were the first two, is from a National Security Agency (NSA) source. In fact, a number of personnel who were on watch at the Meade Operations Center (MOC), which is a floor below the NSA’s National Security Operations Center (NSOC), were aware that United 93 was brought down by an Air Force air-to-air missile. Personnel within both the MOC and NSOC have reported the doomed aircraft was shot down.”



reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 08:03 PM by ThroatYogurt
Originally posted by ULTIMA1
Here is some evidnece from the NSA archives that Flight 93 was shot down.


This is far from evidence.

Did you read it?



onlinejournal.com...
On October 29, 2007, WMR reported: “According to U.S. intelligence sources, the archives of the National Security Agency (NSA), available to cleared users via the INTELINK network, contains an archive of Flash precedence and Sensitive Compartmented Information (SCI) NSA intelligence messages known as ‘CRITICs.’

One such CRITIC from September 11, 2001, which includes a number of follow-on intelligence reports, concerns United Airlines flight 93, downed over Shanksville, Pennsylvania. However, the CRITIC is at odds with the official account of the fate of United 93, which is that passengers and crew attacked the hijackers and forced the plane to crash into the ground.

The NSA CRITIC, according to sources who have seen it, is about five or six sentences, and paraphrasically states:


“The third confirmation, as were the first two, is from a National Security Agency (NSA) source. In fact, a number of personnel who were on watch at the Meade Operations Center (MOC), which is a floor below the NSA’s National Security Operations Center (NSOC), were aware that United 93 was brought down by an Air Force air-to-air missile. Personnel within both the MOC and NSOC have reported the doomed aircraft was shot down.”




This is all B.S.

Anonymous sources, no copy of the CRITIC report. A web site reporting it's own reporting??

NONE of this is verified....

for once....I agree with IVAN ZANA.



reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 08:10 PM by Maxmars
reply to post by ThroatYogurt



I agree, one must be willing to accept that this is genuine. I propose that it is, I don't expect the NSOC would release a CRITIC to the press. However, there is more than one reason to suspect a shoot down occurred. Again I know that much of it is open to conjecture, it just seems more reasonable a scenario than others I have encountered.


reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 08:16 PM by ThroatYogurt
reply to post by Maxmars



Hi Max,

Actually there is not any evidence to support the shoot down theory.

1- Debris field was very large with only light debris away from the crash scene.

2- FDR showed all systems normal just prior to impact.

3- Phone calls that were still connected did not report of any explosions.

Thanks,

:TY:


reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 04:37 AM by ThroatYogurt
reply to post by ULTIMA1



Ultima,
since you dodged the question in our debate at the debate forum. I will ask you again..

What debris that was found outside the crash scene? (1 mile mark? 2 miles? 8 miles?)

Do you know?


reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 06:52 PM by ThroatYogurt
reply to post by ULTIMA1



This thread that you started is about a shoot down theory.

Now please tell me what debris were found outside the impact area.

1 mile away

3 miles away

8 miles away

Please show your sources.

Thank you.



reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 07:18 PM by ThroatYogurt
reply to post by ULTIMA1



You have not shown ANY government reports supporting a shootdown. Don't be dishonest.

Again... STOP dodging the question. WHAT debris away from the impact supports your shoot down theory.

Not sure how many times I will have to ask this.


reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 07:23 PM by Maxmars
reply to post by ThroatYogurt




Are you of the opinion that CNN invented the presented information. You seem to want to mount some challenge to it, but the report doesnot contain the data you ask for.

Considering the implication, do YOU have factual information regarding the reference?

Officials in southwestern Pennsylvania said they have identified and cordoned off a second debris site about 2 to 6 miles away from the crash site of United Flight 93, the fourth hijacked plane in Tuesday's terror attack.


((Emphasis mine))

[edit on 8-8-2008 by Maxmars]


reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 07:29 PM by ThroatYogurt
reply to post by ULTIMA1



You have not shown it. You are stating a claim from a website that is using a source that is not identified. You do not know if it exists. I cam calling BS on this one.
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