Saying good bye to Ahmadienjad

There are 8 Carrier battle groups at sea.

5 are sitting at the mouth of the Persian Gulf and 2 are in route.

judicial-inc.biz...

Two additional United States naval aircraft carriers are heading to the Gulf and the Red Sea, according to the Kuwaiti newspaper Kuwait Times.

www.jpost.com...

I guess this is it, hold onto your asses...

i ust asked this question in another thread.

are you sure these two additional carriers are not just replacements for carriers allready there?

Yeah..

All "sources" are saying not until Sept or Oct.

But; with Israel having a huge scale war game last night...


DF trains for simultaneous Hezbollah, Iran, Syria

The Israel Air Force's anti-aircraft division on Tuesday carried out a large exercise testing its response to simultaneous missile strikes by Syria, Hezbollah and Iran.

The exercise began with a single Syrian missile strike on Israel.

Experts predict that a real strike would comprise of multiple strikes from a number of different countries, which was what happened next in Tuesday's exercise. The simulated Syrian attack was soon joined by salvos of missiles launched by Hezbollah and Iran.
The exercise comes amid heightened tensions between Jerusalem and Tehran over Iran's nuclear aspirations and its President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's calls for Israel's destruction.

Also, despite indirect peace talks, Syria could still respond to Israel's strike on an alleged nuclear site within its territory last year. Hezbollah has also vowed to attack Israel, whom it blames for the assassination of its deputy commander Imad Mughniyah.



I doubt they will kill Amaddinnerjihad

I would have to agree the moment is close. Iran can spin up 20 kilos of bomb in 16 days..............6000 centrifuges can make a lot of bomb cores.......

Interesting to see some much US naval strength in one area.

Either it's time to rotate out a couple of CVN's or it's time for the Naval blockaide of Iran.

No oil out and no fuel into Iran.

Also look to see if tankers in the gulf start flying the stars and bars like they did in the 80's when the Iran / Iraq war was going on and Iran started to target tankers in the gulf.

Any attack on a tanker flying a US flag was an act of war against the US.

IMHO I don't expect to see any action until GWB meets with Putin and the Chicoms this weekend, after that all bets are off.

His meeting with them is going to be telling them what we are up to and for them to stay out of it.
This I would bet my bottom dollar on.

Hold on to your butts people! Its about to get VERY bumpy.
Gas is going to reach the SHTF price as soon as the first missles start flying.

Typically Kuwait doesnt enatc war emergency planning when carriers are exchanged.

Originally posted by JSR
i ust asked this question in another thread.

are you sure these two additional carriers are not just replacements for carriers allready there?

I just pray, with all of our sea power concertrated, that we dont get hit by a peral harbour type incident...

Dont worry...our radars are a LOT more adavnced now and we have plenty of weaponry here at the crib to deal with. Plenty of air force around.

Originally posted by TKainZero
I just pray, with all of our sea power concertrated, that we dont get hit by a peral harbour type incident...

Sure sounds like a great pearl harbor incident waiting to happen.... 5 just sitting there and two more on the way? Of course with satellites anyone would really know where they were at but come on...

Seems to me something more than Iran may be afoot... Kind of like sink a bunch of our carriers to cover up the global melt down that is upon us. Then fight it out to see who the new super power is?

Not that anyone is capable like maybe the chicoms sneaking a sub into a battle group a while back...

Edit to add: Oops... Didn't read the above post... I guess someone else is worried about that as well.

[edit on 01/01/2008 by Perplexed]

6000 centrifuges will produce enough enrcihed uranium for almost 2 bombs a year...provided they are running at capacity for a whole year. So far Iran has been exaggerating these claims.

Originally posted by heliosprime
I would have to agree the moment is close. Iran can spin up 20 kilos of bomb in 16 days..............6000 centrifuges can make a lot of bomb cores.......

Ok everyone it's Party time and here and hot off the press is a list of the entertainment, sit back and enjoy.

This party all started a few weeks back with Operation Brimstone.

Operation Brimstone ended only one week ago. This was the joint US/UK/French naval war games in the Atlantic Ocean preparing for a naval blockade of Iran and the likely resulting war in the Persian Gulf area.

The massive war games included a US Navy supercarrier battle group, an US Navy expeditionary carrier battle group, a Royal Navy carrier battle group, a French nuclear hunter-killer submarine plus a large number of US Navy cruisers, destroyers and frigates playing the "enemy force".

The lead American ship in these war games, the USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN71) and its Carrier Strike Group Two (CCSG-2) are now headed towards Iran along with the USS Ronald Reagon (CVN76) and its Carrier Strike Group Seven (CCSG-7) coming from Japan.

They are joining two existing USN battle groups in the Gulf area: the USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN72) with its Carrier Strike Group Nine (CCSG-9); and the USS Peleliu (LHA-5) with its expeditionary strike group.

Likely also under way towards the Persian Gulf is the USS Iwo Jima (LHD-7) and its expeditionary strike group, the UK Royal Navy HMS Ark Royal (R07) carrier battle group, assorted French naval assets including the nuclear hunter-killer submarine Amethyste and French Naval Rafale fighter jets on-board the USS Theodore Roosevelt. These ships took part in the just completed Operation Brimstone.

The build up of naval forces in the Gulf will be one of the largest multi-national naval armadas since the First and Second Gulf Wars.

The intent is to create a US/EU naval blockade (which is an Act of War under international law) around Iran (with supporting air and land elements) to prevent the shipment of benzene and certain other refined oil products headed to Iranian ports.

Iran has limited domestic oil refining capacity and imports 40% of its benzene. Cutting off benzene and other key products would cripple the Iranian economy. The neo-cons are counting on such a blockade launching a war with Iran.

US Naval forces being assembled include the following:

Carrier Strike Group Nine
USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN72) nuclear powered supercarrier
with its Carrier Air Wing Two
Destroyer Squadron Nine:
USS Mobile Bay (CG53) guided missile cruiser
USS Russell (DDG59) guided missile destroyer
USS Momsen (DDG92) guided missile destroyer
USS Shoup (DDG86) guided missile destroyer
USS Ford (FFG54) guided missile frigate
USS Ingraham (FFG61) guided missile frigate
USS Rodney M. Davis (FFG60) guided missile frigate
USS Curts (FFG38) guided missile frigate
Plus one or more nuclear hunter-killer submarines

Peleliu Expeditionary Strike Group
USS Peleliu (LHA-5) a Tarawa-class amphibious assault carrier
USS Pearl Harbor ('___'52) assult ship
USS Dubuque (LPD8) assult ship/landing dock
USS Cape St. George (CG71) guided missile cruiser
USS Halsey (DDG97) guided missile destroyer
USS Benfold (DDG65) guided missile destroyer

Carrier Strike Group Two
USS Theodore Roosevelt (DVN71) nuclear powered supercarrier
with its Carrier Air Wing Eight
Destroyer Squadron 22
USS Monterey (CG61) guided missile cruiser
USS Mason (DDG87) guided missile destroyer
USS Nitze (DDG94) guided missile destroyer
USS Sullivans (DDG68) guided missile destroyer

USS Springfield (SSN761) nuclear powered hunter-killer submarine

IWO ESG ~ Iwo Jima Expeditionary Strike Group
USS Iwo Jima (LHD7) amphibious assault carrier
with its Amphibious Squadron Four
and with its 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit
USS San Antonio (LPD17) assault ship
USS Velia Gulf (CG72) guided missile cruiser
USS Ramage (DDG61) guided missile destroyer
USS Carter Hall ('___'50) assault ship
USS Roosevelt (DDG80) guided missile destroyer

USS Hartfore (SSN768) nuclear powered hunter-killer submarine

Carrier Strike Group Seven
USS Ronald Reagan (CVN76) nuclear powered supercarrier
with its Carrier Air Wing 14
Destroyer Squadron 7
USS Chancellorsville (CG62) guided missile cruiser
USS Howard (DDG83) guided missile destroyer
USS Gridley (DDG101) guided missile destroyer
USS Decatur (DDG73) guided missile destroyer
USS Thach (FFG43) guided missile frigate
USNS Rainier (T-AOE-7) fast combat support ship

Also likely to join the battle armada:

UK Royal Navy HMS Ark Royal Carrier Strike Group with assorted guided missile destroyers and frigates, nuclear hunter-killer submarines and support ships

French Navy nuclear powered hunter-killer submarines (likely the Amethyste and perhaps others), plus French Naval Rafale fighter jets operating off of the USS Theodore Roosevelt as the French Carrier Charles de Gaulle is in dry dock, and assorted surface warships.

Various other US Navy warships and submarines and support ships.

The following USN ships took part (as the "enemy" forces) in Operation Brimstone and several may join in:

USS San Jacinto (CG56) guided missile cruiser
USS Anzio (CG68) guided missile cruiser
USS Normandy (CG60) guided missile cruiser
USS Carney (DDG64) guided missile destroyer
USS Oscar Austin (DDG79) guided missile destroyer
USS Winston S. Churchill (DDG81) guided missile destroyer
USS Carr (FFG52) guided missile frigate

The USS Iwo Jima and USS Peleliu Expeditionary Strike Groups have USMC Harrier jump jets and an assortment of assault and attack helicopters.

The Expeditionary Strike Groups have powerful USMC Expeditionary Units with amphibious armor and ground forces trained for operating in shallow waters and in seizures of land assets, such as Qeshm Island (a 50 mile long island off of Bandar Abbas in the Gulf of Hormuz and headquarters of the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps).

The large and very advanced nature of the US Naval warships is not only directed at Iran.

There is a great fear that Russia and China may oppose the naval and air/land blockade of Iran.

If Russian and perhaps Chinese naval warships escort commercial tankers to Iran in violation of the blockade it could be the most dangerous at-sea confrontation since the Cuban Missile Crisis.

The US and allied Navies, by front loading a Naval blockade force with very powerful guided missile warships and strike carriers is attempting to have a force so powerful that Russia and China will not be tempted to mess with.

This is a most serious game of military brinkmanship with major nuclear armed powers that have profound objections to the neo-con grand strategy and to western control of all of the Middle East's oil supply.

The Russian Navy this spring sent a major battle fleet into the Mediterranean headed by the modern aircraft carrier the Admiral Kuznetsov and the flagship of its Black Sea Fleet, the Guided Missile Heavy Cruiser Moskva.

This powerful fleet has at least 11 surface ships and unknown numbers of subs and can use the Russian naval facility at Syria's Tartous port for resupply.

The Admiral Kuznetsov carries approximately 47 warplanes and 10 helicopters. The warplanes are mostly the powerful Su-33, a naval version (with mid-air refueling capability) of the Su-27 family. While the Su-33 is a very powerful warplane it lacks the power of the stealth USAF F-22.

However, the Russians insist that they have developed a plasma based system that allows them to stealth any aircraft and a recent incident where Russian fighters were able to appear unannounced over a US Navy carrier battle group tends to confirm their claims.

The Su-33 can be armed with the 3M82 Moskit sea-skimming missile (NATO code name SS-N-22 Sunburn) and the even more powerful P-800 Oniks (also named Yakhonts; NATO code name SS-N-26 Onyx).

Both missiles are designed to kill US Navy supercarriers by getting past the cruiser/destroyer screen and the USN point-defense Phalanx system by using high supersonic speeds and violent end maneuvers.

Russian subs currently use the underwater rocket VA-111 Shkval (Squall), which is fired from standard 533mm torpedo tubes and reaches a speed of 360kph (230mph) underwater.

There is no effective countermeasures to this system and no western counterpart.

A strategic diversion has been created for Russia.

The Republic of Georgia, with US backing, is actively preparing for war on South Ossetia.

The South Ossetia capital has been shelled and a large Georgian tank force has been heading towards the border.

Russia has stated that it will not sit by and allow the Georgians to attack South Ossetia.

The Russians are great chess players and this game may not turn out so well for the neo-cons.

Kuwait has activated its "Emergency War Plan" as it and other Gulf nations prepare for the likelihood of a major regional war in the Middle East involving weapons of mass destruction...

So fire up the microwave and get the popcorn ready!

This show could be the last one we ever watch.

May God Bless the United States and her Allies.

Hmmmm, Good timing. China is hosting the Olympics and wouldn't dare do anything to rock the boat (no pun intended...) for the next couple of weeks, and now Russia is suddenly dragged into a fairly large scale offensive in Georgia. Seems like Iran's 2 biggest friends have their hands tied for a while. Coincidence? I think not.

I would say it's now or never for an attack on Iran.

Oh boy