Proving The Existance Of God Cannot Be Done, Stop Trying, page 5
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reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 02:37 AM by TruthParadox
reply to post by DarksDeception



If God did create us, then he created us as physical beings designed to use logic. Then humans, who try to make the Bible 'work', state that he is spirit and we cannot understand his infinite wisdom. If this is the case, then why did God create us in such a way that 90% of the population would not be 'saved'? It would be like me locking a 2 year old in a room with a shotgun. There's a 90% chance that he will blow his brains out, but I'm only interested in the 10%. My point is, if God did exist, it would be his responsibility to make sure that 90% of his creation does not spend eternity burning in hell.


reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 02:43 AM by euclid
reply to post by AlexG141989



Actually I did see that.... but the rest of your posts imply that you did not believe your statement that you could not disprove the existence of GOD.

So I posted. Take it or leave it buddy. I was an atheist at one time too.... the answers are in the unification of science and religion. At one time in the deep dark past they were one and the same. Quantum mechanics is quickly melding the two back together.

-Euclid


reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 02:56 AM by euclid
reply to post by AlexG141989



OK, I get ya guys now.... When I was your age that's when I was an athiest too. Ended for me right around 30..... but I did a lot of reading 3 to 5 500 page books a week for several years. Don't stop looking. Read science, religion, philosophy and psychology. When ya'll get to be about 35 or so you'll begin to "re-evaluate" things a bit. I didn't realize you were at that age.

Just remember old Euclid.... and what he told you.



-Euclid


reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 03:06 AM by PPLwakeUP
Hello

Yes it can.

This is GOD
















theresonanceproject.org...

64 tetrahedron topological structure, based on a fractal growth of cubeoctahedrons or vector equilibriums, is fundamental to Haramein's Unification Theory.

BR
PPL


reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 03:19 AM by euclid
reply to post by PPLwakeUP



You probably know this already PPL.... E8!

All those geometric patterns are the differential equations of E8 viewed from slightly different perspectives. It is beautiful. It is GOD.



en.wikipedia.org...

An Exceptionally Simple Theory of Everything

-Euclid

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reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 03:29 AM by TruthParadox
reply to post by PPLwakeUP



Seriously? This proves God how? I guess in the end, all I can do is smile and nod at some people's perception of what proof is.


reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 04:03 AM by dunwichwitch
reply to post by euclid



E8? Could you explain this a bit more?

I'll probably understand if I knew what e8 stood for.

EDIT: nevermind... posted this after walking away for awhile




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reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 04:11 AM by Saidar
reply to post by TruthParadox


"How is that even remotely related to proof? That's like saying that creatures on earth share many of the same body parts (eyes, ears, mouth, etc.) and therefor must have the same creator. Have you thought of a reason besides God? Perhaps that we all share the same environment and are going to have several things in common because of it?"



Why are all atheists so blind?? I take it you believe that you came from a rock that turned into the person that is you today. Ok, if that is true, then hear me out: Evolution is based on RANDOM CHANCE of something happening and that is why all the atheist scientists defend the idea that the earth is billions of years old. Because without the extreme amount of time that it takes for a fish to turn into a monkey, the theory of evolution would NOT be possible. And there is more than enough evidence that the earth is definitely not that old. Go do your research I don't have the time to write about all of it.
Of everything that we see here today is based on random chance, how can a specific number be seen in EVERY living thing on earth??? To give an example the relationship between male and female bees in a colony is ALWAYS exactly phi (golden ratio) ( That is of course if they don't get hit by a tidal wave or something :lol
And please answer this question: How can something less intelligent design something that is more intelligent than himself? How can a piece of dead matter turn into something intelligent? How can a rock turn into DNA, the programming code of life??

If you can write a computer program, that writes by itself a more complex program than itself, then I'll believe in evolution.

Now there is a challenge for all atheist programmers


reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 04:22 AM by TruthParadox
Originally posted by MASH_DADDY
IMO Me or any other theists don't need to prove that God does exist.
Its a personal belief that you hold.

I agree, there's no need for you to prove that God exists. I think that's what the OP was getting at. There is no proof, so theists should not attempt to prove it.

Originally posted by MASH_DADDY
If you haven't noticed our solar system is in PERFECT harmony... The distance from the Sun, the Moon, the rotation, the axis of the earth, it is all balanced.. And why all these religions and 9 different Prophets? Look at how many different races/cultures/traditions/beliefs we have on this planet...doesn't this mean anything at all...?

The last "proof" I can provide for you is: Your Soul. Where do you think it came from? Take a look at the human body and examine how a child is born, when it is born into this world, it is absolutely pure, who / what created all this in the beginning? Did It just happen miraculously you suggest? Man did not create himself in the beginning, and we did not evolve from apes either. I believe the soul is what puts us apart from other animals.


The Bible states that God is infinite in wisdom, power, and glory. This
would make him infinitely more complex than our universe, and yet, you have no trouble believing that God just came to be, so why not the universe? I am well aware that our knowledge of the universe cannot yet come close
to explaining it's existence, but that doesn't mean there isn't an explanation.
Also, I agree that the odds of the solar system being the way they are would appear to be very low. If you look at the whole picture, however, and see that there possibly billions of solar systems in the universe, then you will see that such conditions are bound to occur by simple chance. Imagine using a computer to calculate a random number from 1 to 1 billion. say you got the number 200. You could say that the odds are extremely low that you got the number 200. However, if you look at the whole picture, the odds will be extremely low given any outcome.


Originally posted by MASH_DADDY
Out of curiosity I want to ask you a question if you don't mind? Are any of your parents atheists as well.. and also have you ever been to church?

I realize this question was meant for the thread starter, but since I'm also an atheist, I might as well say that both my parents are theists, and I did go to church.
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