Originally posted by asmeone2
Some background. When I had my kids I talked to my mom, who is a very devout, and very evangelical, Christain, and explained that I did not want her
to attempt to witness to the children. I was very careful to explain that I was not trying to exclude them from her own religious beleifs but to
prevent them from learnign to follow a beleif system dogmatically. If they were to follow any religion, I want it to be because they have a conviction
to do so, not because some family member follows it or someone has pressured or scared them into it.
Her opinion is that this is a cop-out because I do not intend to teach them moral values in accordance with any religious values (specifically, hers.)
I beleive it is more of a cop-out to attempt to force children to beleive as you do, instead of allowing them the opportunity to live a bit and form a
sincere dedication to their faith. I would think that God would want true converts, not drones.
By raising you the way she did she was following the Lord who commanded her to do so:
Ephesians 6:1-4 ESV Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. (2) “Honor your father and mother” (this is the first commandment
with a promise), (3) “that it may go well with you and that you may live long in the land.” (4) Fathers, do not provoke your children to anger,
but bring them up in the discipline and instruction of the Lord.
Proverbs 23:13-14 Do not withhold discipline from a child; if you strike him with a rod, he will not die. If you strike him with the rod, you will
save his soul from Sheol.
Deuteronomy 6:4-9 ESV “Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one. (5) You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your
soul and with all your might. (6) And these words that I command you today shall be on your heart. (7) You shall teach them diligently to your
children, and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk by the way, and when you lie down, and when you rise. (8) You shall
bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes. (9) You shall write them on the doorposts of your house and on
Luke 2:48-52 ESV And when his parents saw him, they were astonished. And his mother said to him, “Son, why have you treated us so? Behold, your
father and I have been searching for you in great distress.” (49) And he said to them, “Why were you looking for me? Did you not know that I must
be in my Father’s house?” (50) And they did not understand the saying that he spoke to them. (51) And he went down with them and came to Nazareth
and was submissive to them. And his mother treasured up all these things in her heart. (52) And Jesus increased in wisdom and in stature and in favor
with God and man.
Luke 18:28-30 ESV And Peter said, “See, we have left our homes and followed you.” (29) And he said to them, “Truly, I say to you, there is no
one who has left house or wife or brothers or parents or children, for the sake of the kingdom of God, (30) who will not receive many times more in
this time, and in the age to come eternal life.”
John 9:3-5 ESV Jesus answered, “It was not that this man sinned, or his parents, but that the works of God might be displayed in him. (4) We must
work the works of him who sent me while it is day; night is coming, when no one can work. (5) As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the
2 Corinthians 12:13-15 ESV For in what were you less favored than the rest of the churches, except that I myself did not burden you? Forgive me this
wrong! (14) Here for the third time I am ready to come to you. And I will not be a burden, for I seek not what is yours but you. For children are not
obligated to save up for their parents, but parents for their children. (15) I will most gladly spend and be spent for your souls. If I love you more,
am I to be loved less?
Colossians 3:20 ESV Children, obey your parents in everything, for this pleases the Lord.
1 Timothy 5:3-4 ESV Honor widows who are truly widows. (4) But if a widow has children or grandchildren, let them first learn to show godliness to
their own household and to make some return to their parents, for this is pleasing in the sight of God.
2 Timothy 3:1-5 ESV But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. (2) For people will be lovers of self, lovers of
money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, (3) heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control,
brutal, not loving good, (4) treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, (5) having the appearance of
godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people.
Colossians 3:20-24 ESV Children, obey your parents in everything, for this pleases the Lord. (21) Fathers, do not provoke your children, lest they
become discouraged. (22) Slaves, obey in everything those who are your earthly masters, not by way of eye-service, as people-pleasers, but with
sincerity of heart, fearing the Lord. (23) Whatever you do, work heartily, as for the Lord and not for men, (24) knowing that from the Lord you will
receive the inheritance as your reward. You are serving the Lord Christ.
Proverbs 1:8-9 ESV Hear, my son, your father’s instruction, and forsake not your mother’s teaching, (9) for they are a graceful garland for your
head and pendants for your neck.
Proverbs 30:17 ESV The eye that mocks a father and scorns to obey a mother will be picked out by the ravens of the valley and eaten by the
Proverbs 7:1-3 ESV My son, keep my words and treasure up my commandments with you; (2) keep my commandments and live; keep my teaching as the apple of
your eye; (3) bind them on your fingers; write them on the tablet of your heart.
Leviticus 19:3 ESV Every one of you shall revere his mother and his father, and you shall keep my Sabbaths: I am the LORD your God.
Deuteronomy 21:18-21 ESV “If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and,
though they discipline him, will not listen to them, (19) then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his
city at the gate of the place where he lives, (20) and they shall say to the elders of his city, ‘This our son is stubborn and rebellious; he will
not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.’ (21) Then all the men of the city shall stone him to death with stones. So you shall purge the
evil from your midst, and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
Exodus 20:12 ESV “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long in the land that the LORD your God is giving you.
Exodus 21:15-17 ESV “Whoever strikes his father or his mother shall be put to death. (16) “Whoever steals a man and sells him, and anyone found in
possession of him, shall be put to death. (17) “Whoever curses his father or his mother shall be put to death.
Titus 2:3-5 ESV Older women likewise are to be reverent in behavior, not slanderers or slaves to much wine. They are to teach what is good, (4) and so
train the young women to love their husbands and children, (5) to be self-controlled, pure, working at home, kind, and submissive to their own
husbands, that the word of God may not be reviled.
Deuteronomy 4:9-10 ESV “Only take care, and keep your soul diligently, lest you forget the things that your eyes have seen, and lest they depart
from your heart all the days of your life. Make them known to your children and your children’s children– (10) how on the day that you stood
before the LORD your God at Horeb, the LORD said to me, ‘Gather the people to me, that I may let them hear my words, so that they may learn to fear
me all the days that they live on the earth, and that they may teach their children so.’
Deuteronomy 11:19 ESV You shall teach them to your children, talking of them when you are sitting in your house, and when you are walking by the way,
and when you lie down, and when you rise.
Joel 1:2-3 ESV Hear this, you elders; give ear, all inhabitants of the land! Has such a thing happened in your days, or in the days of your fathers?
(3) Tell your children of it, and let your children tell their children, and their children to another generation.
Psalms 78:2-8 ESV I will open my mouth in a parable; I will utter dark sayings from of old, (3) things that we have heard and known, that our fathers
have told us. (4) We will not hide them from their children, but tell to the coming generation the glorious deeds of the LORD, and his might, and the
wonders that he has done. (5) He established a testimony in Jacob and appointed a law in Israel, which he commanded our fathers to teach to their
children, (6) that the next generation might know them, the children yet unborn, and arise and tell them to their children, (7) so that they should
set their hope in God and not forget the works of God, but keep his commandments; (8) and that they should not be like their fathers, a stubborn and
rebellious generation, a generation whose heart was not steadfast, whose spirit was not faithful to God.
Psalms 103:13 ESV As a father shows compassion to his children, so the LORD shows compassion to those who fear him.
Proverbs 10:1 ESV The proverbs of Solomon. A wise son makes a glad father, but a foolish son is a sorrow to his mother.
Psalms 112:1-2 ESV Praise the LORD! Blessed is the man who fears the LORD, who greatly delights in his commandments! (2) His offspring will be mighty
in the land; the generation of the upright will be blessed