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the "old ladies" you are talking about would not appreciate being called old! the one in the back is anne, my granduncles wife!ISF they went beyond the canyon which is in range of the base, still about 7miles from it, and were apprehended by the cammo dudes! charged wit trespassing and were given a 2,000 dollar fine each and 13months of community service! she did say that the two cammos had guns she had never seen b4, even with her husband being a former senior master seargant of da air force.