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Group Protests Treament of Hadrons at CERN


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reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 01:43 AM by bDaedal4ever


I propose that experiment is flawed in some way. I would like to see if they ruled out any attraction (electrical or gravitational) of the observing instrument and how.



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reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 01:46 AM by zorgon


Originally posted by VIKINGANT
I wonder if they will hear the subatomic particles screaming? Maybe it will be like the best ride at the show…..well…until the collision part any way.



I bet If they imploded YOUR subatomic particles YOU would scream

You realize of course what this means?

If these electrons are sentient... then we have been treating them like slaves all this time making them do hard labor...

We need a campaign... "Free the Electrons" "Free Energy for All"



Cute little buggers aren't they?





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reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 02:38 AM by VIKINGANT


Originally posted by xmotex
I hate to ruin the thread, but BBSpot is a famous geek humor site.


Actually I am relieved that people this stupid do not really exist.
Not wanting to make false accusations, but how is it you came to be so familiar wth the site?



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reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 02:56 AM by burdman30ott6


Are these people members of one of those religions that doesn't believe in killing any living thing whatsoever? I'll tell you, if their definition of "life" is so loose that it encompasses hadrons, then they surely must be making plans to travel to Yosemite to protest the fighting of the forrest fires... afterall, on the chain of things that almost meet the criteris for accepted life, fire is right up there at the top so extinguishing fires must be unthinkable to these folks.

PS: I still believe this must be a joke, punchline in article or not.



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reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 07:10 AM by Anonymous ATS


What I like best is the togetherness that a smaller Earth will bring to us all. If the Earth was the size of a golf ball we would all be much closer.

Got LHCFacts.org?



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reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 07:13 AM by VIKINGANT


So can anyone answer the second part of my OP. Is it going ahead? It is due to be turned on in 2 hours. I still cannot get onto the count down site. Must be overloaded with others counting down.

Also, here is your chance for last minute bets. What is going to happen? Will it be a fizzer? Will it create a mini black hole that will dissipate in a second? Will it create a big black hole engulfing the earth and subsequently the solar system? Will John Titor appear from the time warp created?



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reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 07:18 AM by Lethil


hmmm btw just how well trusted is the theory that the tiny little blackholes will evaporate...cant rememer the name...hawkins radiaton theory or something like that...anyway has it been shown to work?

And yes it being tuned on today but its not *really* turning on for a couple of months...this is just a tester...ie no chance of destroying world..

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reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 07:37 AM by Spock Shock


WTF, as if people would say that now after billions and billions were spend on creating this thing...

They oughtta be the first atoms to be smashed in that particle accelerator... smash those fools into the next galaxy...

IDIOTS!



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reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 11:34 AM by EnlightenUp


Has it been turned on yet? I'm still here and able to post.

While I think it will ultimately be determined that conscious awareness is an intrisic part of reality at all levels, always anthropomorphizing that consciousness is in error.

That subatomic particles would require "guidance" or be influenced from higher levels is certainly consistent with occult doctrine on the subject. It's higher law against lower law.

Yes, I know the story is simply humor at this point.



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reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 12:41 PM by zorgon


Originally posted by Spock Shock
WTF, as if people would say that now after billions and billions were spend on creating this thing...


Just because "billions and billions were spend on creating" something does not make it a good thing

billions and billions were spend on creating Yucca Mountain

billions and billions were spend on creating the War in Iraq

billions and billions were spend on creating atomic bombs just so the boys can blow the crap out of the Nevada desert and some islands in the Pacific...

billions and billions were spend on creating our Government




CERN THE DAY AFTER A 'Mini" Black Hole



Except THIS is the size it will be...



WHAT HAPPENS WHEN "THEY" MAKE A MISCALCULATION


YouTube Link


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reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 02:48 PM by GhostR1der


Cern did a beam test about 6 hours ago, nothing major though. Proper collisions start in october. That's when if anything could hit the fat it would.

Earlier the site just needed to be refreshed a few times and it worked... pretty nifty little site. Now it seems to be down for good. World wide curiosity killed the cat.



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reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 03:21 PM by mungodave


www.news.com.au...


EUROPEAN particle physics laboratory CERN said today it will start up its massive particle accelerator on September 10 hoping that it could throw light on the origins of the universe.

The so-called Large Hadron Collider (LHC) is the greatest experiment in the history of particle physics.

Scientists are banking that it will confirm the existence of a sub-atomic component - the Higgs Boson, known as "the God Particle" - that would fill in the last missing piece of the so-called Standard Model of particle physics.

A gamble costing six billion Swiss francs ($6.62 billion) that has harnessed the labours of more than 2,000 physicists from nearly three dozen countries, the LHC is the biggest, most powerful high-energy particle accelerator ever built.

Beams of hydrogen protons will whizz around at near-light speed in opposite directions until, bent by powerful superconducting magnets, they will smash together in four bus-sized detector chambers, where they will be annihilated at temperatures hotter than the sun.



Hope that helps

Mungo



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reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 03:23 PM by xmotex


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I worked with a bunch of geeks, and they kept sending me links to goofy BBSpot stories.

It's a great site



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reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 03:27 PM by zorgon


Originally posted by GhostR1der
Earlier the site just needed to be refreshed a few times and it worked... pretty nifty little site. Now it seems to be down for good. World wide curiosity killed the cat.



Which site are you using?

This one works fine for me...

public.web.cern.ch...

Countdown to LHC start-up:
33 days 11 hours 2 min 43 sec



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reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 05:31 PM by VIKINGANT


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I had been using lhccountdown.com It was working fine till yesterday.
Thanks for the link. Now we can keep watch for the “real” main event.



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reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 06:13 PM by VIKINGANT


Looks like its not just me.
I just noticed this thread
LHCountdown.com has gone down

My best guess is overload of people jumping on. I guees the link Zorgon gave us will probably crash around 9-10 Sept as well for the same reason



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reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 06:31 PM by centurion1211


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Actually, the founder of this (IMO lunatic) group is wrong about there being a "limited number of hadrons in the universe, so we shouldn't be destroying any". The whole point of "zero-point energy" is that particles are popping into existence all the time from the vacuum of space and then disappearing again.

Again, these types of people are also known as "Luddites" for being against any and all technology. And that whole diatribe about not wanting to even hurt bacteria was really nuts. It's tough enough to try and make sure I don't accidentally hurt the people and animals around me, so if I had to start worrying about the bacteria I can't even see, well, I'd just go nuts. Guess that's already happened with this crew.



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reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 08:00 PM by windwaker


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That's funny. Bacteria and viruses like killing humans for the sake of killing too...You don't see anyone complaining to them about it.



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reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 08:04 PM by Lethil


Originally posted by centurion1211
reply to post by VIKINGANT



Actually, the founder of this (IMO lunatic) group is wrong about there being a "limited number of hadrons in the universe, so we shouldn't be destroying any". The whole point of "zero-point energy" is that particles are popping into existence all the time from the vacuum of space and then disappearing again.

Again, these types of people are also known as "Luddites" for being against any and all technology. And that whole diatribe about not wanting to even hurt bacteria was really nuts. It's tough enough to try and make sure I don't accidentally hurt the people and animals around me, so if I had to start worrying about the bacteria I can't even see, well, I'd just go nuts. Guess that's already happened with this crew.



How sure are you that he black holes created will evaporate quickly? I guess not that sure,you are idiotic with your sarcasm my friend,its not that good....infact its the worst ive seen on ATS..



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