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Mexican Military Infiltrate U.S. Border & Hold U.S. Border Agent At Gunpoint


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reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 11:28 PM by projectvxn


Originally posted by Ariana9
I didn't say anything racist. I used a slang term that has nothing to do with race. It's about legality, not race.


I realize that to you it is about legality and not race. But the term "wetback" is a racist term whether it is intended as such or not. I take offense to that term because that is the term used when speaking in derogatory fashion about Cubans. No, my family and I didn't swim here or boat here, but we were brought to the US by the US Government with the help of the Department Cuban Affairs. And I STILL get called a "wetback".

It's offensive and low brow anyway. And as I said, your points can be made without those terms.

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reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 01:05 AM by BlasteR


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I agree. And the average politician actually doesn't make that much compared to some of the celebrities out there. But, yet, alot of these politicians are rich. Earmarks is one reason.

www.salon.com...

How are we to dissect a deluge like this one? We might begin by categorizing the earmarks handed out by Congress, sorting the foolish earmarks from the costly earmarks from the earmarks made strictly on a cash basis. We could try a similar approach to government contracting: the no-bid contracts, the no-oversight contracts, the no-experience contracts, the contracts handed out to friends of the vice president. We might consider the shoplifting career of one of the president's former domestic policy advisors or the habitual plagiarism of the president's liaison to the Christian right. And we would certainly have to find some way to parse the extraordinary incompetence of the executive branch, incompetence so fulsome and steady and reliable that at some point Americans stopped being surprised and began simply to count on it, to think of incompetence as the way government works.

But the onrushing flow swamps all taxonomies. Mass firing of federal prosecutors; bribing of newspaper columnists; pallets of shrink-wrapped cash "misplaced" in Iraq; inexperienced kids running the Baghdad stock exchange; the discovery that many of Alaska's leading politicians are apparently on the take -- our heads swim. We climb to the rooftop, but we cannot find the heights of irony from which we might laugh off the blend of thug and Pharisee that was Tom DeLay -- or dispel the nauseating suspicion, quickly becoming a certainty, that the government of our nation deliberately fibbed us into a pointless, catastrophic war.


-ChriS

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reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 01:50 AM by darkscorpio


US- ARmy & Mexican ARmy
are the same
do you remember in the news
"Mexico its like our backyard"
so the US military infiltrate Mexico as much
as the mexcan does
they cooperate
they cant stop them because there wernt any cooperation
the us - Army infiltrate even to the center of MExico
& what does Mexico do?
NOTHING
why? simple
they are the same
just that Mexico its the backyard and the US is the house
think about it



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reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 02:18 AM by spacebot


Guys... guys...

Listen!

I don't live in the US and I wouldn't care a bit about this incident but since you all seem so surprised about such events let me tell you that nearly every country that has been a faithful ally with the US has had the same problems since decades.
It is not a secret that the powers that be support every backward country including their citizens that later become illegal immigrants --> legal immigrants --> citizens with voting rights in more advanced countries, at the expense of the traditional citizenry of those countries, all that is done through political means, and all are happening because a paradigm change is being attempted, a large dumbing down of the human society through drugs, illegal immigration, loose ethics and constant disorder. Nearly every politician on planet earth has filled at some point his pockets with drug money.

Now its your turn guys. You get to see more of that stuff in the future.
What goes around, comes around and if you think you can do anything to stop this you will only find how much corrupted the people in authority are nowadays, and when you will ask their help, you discover they will start betraying you left and right.

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reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 08:13 AM by Ariana9


Look, I am not refering to anyone who is here legally. You are oversensitive. The river is wide and deep where I lived at and they swim over. My boyfriend was a Mexican national, he was legal so he was not a "wetback". When I moved down there, one of my hispanic friends told me "it's ok to say wetback, you don't have to whisper it". I thought it was derogatory till I learned that even American born hispanics used it, it refers to the illegals who swim over. So lighten up. Yes, if I called a legal-to-be-here hispanic, a wetback, then yes, that's insulting because they are not here illegally. I guess I could call them defendants. Or perpertrators. I tended bar at several of the river bars and actually waited on people that had just swam over and were wet from head to toe, even their money was wet. I'm sorry you were insulted, but I have not insulted you, nor would I.



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reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 10:37 AM by Alferd Packer


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reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 10:51 AM by Alferd Packer


Im sorry i thought this would be relavent to the topic concerning Illegal Immigrants.




This lady "tacoed" into the side of a bus killing 4 children and then claims her boyfriend who is also an illegal was driving the van when it barrolled into the side of the school bus at 40 MPH.

These Illegals dont bother to learn our laws and its a threat to our national security if they feel that they have the right to nomadically roam across borders to ANY COUNTRY, not just our beautiful United States of America.



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reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 11:24 AM by Infra_red


What border? There is no border between the U.S. and Mexico and I am wondering when people are going to realise this. We will soon be joined by currency with both Mexico and Canada and the NAFTA superhighway is all but finalized. The only borders are at major cities to make the citizens nearby feel like there is a segregation of the countries so the politicians of said cities and states can push their agendas and get elected or re-elected.



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reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 12:55 PM by slicobacon


I say its time to step up the Border Patrol. Give them better arms. Have the National Guard back them up. Drain the water tanks in the desert. This problem could be taken care if we ever got any politicians in office who really wanted to take care of it.



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reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 01:00 PM by Quazga


So we can spend 1 Bil a day on an illegal war in Iraq, but we can't spend anywhere near that a day to secure our back door?


The GOP has some serious priority issues.



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reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 01:07 PM by Ariana9


Seems like part of the problem is that I would imagine to be a Border Patrol agent, you must know spanish. Well, most anglos don't know spanish, so they wind up hiring hispanics and lots of them still have family in Mexico, so naturally they are "soft" on the subject and so isn't that like the fox guarding the henhouse? I also had another boyfriend that was born in the US and he had one brother-in-law that was a coke dealer and one that was a Border Patrol agent. Wonder how that worked. His mother was also a bruja, (witch). She cast spells and everything. Probably why my transmission went out in my truck, cause she hated me.



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reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 01:37 PM by darkscorpio


for those who have the racism in their veins i should recomend
the movie Un día sin mexicanos (A Day Without a Mexican)
im pretty shure you will see how the US depnds on latin people



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reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 02:33 PM by shadow watcher


It upsets me to know that our border is unprotected.
If I were in charge, I would authorize as much firepower as necessary to stop (para) military attacks on our soil. Humvees and high powered weapons are crossing and our patrol is out gunned? Why can we not stop them? Is there some sort of stand down order that is given to our patrols?

I would be most interested in hearing from these border patrol officers and have them tell us first hand what they need to stop these drug cartels. I would ask them if there are orders preventing them from defending the borders and themselves. We really need to know where these blockages are and how high up they go. If there were actual names attached to these orders, we could then as citizens take some action.

If it just comes down to money, like mentioned earlier, many Americans would gladly volunteer to do the job. If our government readjusted it's priorities and allowed for a larger budget, these volunteers would do the rest.

This is a declaration of war in my eyes. It sickens me to read about this.



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reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 03:21 PM by Ariana9


This is not, I repeat, not about racism!!! It's about people who break the law to enter our country illegally. We are in a recession. Jobs are getting scarce and we need our jobs and why should criminals be allowed to take our jobs, to be rewarded for breaking our laws? I don't care if some rich lady has to cut her own lawn or watch her own children. It doesn't matter how cheap broccoli is if I don't have a job in order to buy my groceries! I feel those who hire illegals should be punished. Let's boot out the illigals, those criminals, those who break our laws, wetbacks, whatever. Mexico needs to take care of it's own citizens. It is not our responsiblity.



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reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 03:40 PM by Ariana9


His mother did do spells and stuff. And my transmission really did go out. But I was making a joke about it being her fault. They believed in that stuff, as do alot of the population down there. More than once, I had older people stare at my blue eyes, and then lay their fingers on them, touch them to dispel the "evil eye". They are very superstitious sp? down there. But so are alot of older, rural people. My grandma was. And she was an Irish hillbilly. Apparantly I need to hone my comedic skills.



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reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 04:06 PM by bigfatfurrytexan


Originally posted by Ariana9
Look, I am not refering to anyone who is here legally. You are oversensitive. The river is wide and deep where I lived at and they swim over. My boyfriend was a Mexican national, he was legal so he was not a "wetback". When I moved down there, one of my hispanic friends told me "it's ok to say wetback, you don't have to whisper it". I thought it was derogatory till I learned that even American born hispanics used it, it refers to the illegals who swim over. So lighten up. Yes, if I called a legal-to-be-here hispanic, a wetback, then yes, that's insulting because they are not here illegally. I guess I could call them defendants. Or perpertrators. I tended bar at several of the river bars and actually waited on people that had just swam over and were wet from head to toe, even their money was wet. I'm sorry you were insulted, but I have not insulted you, nor would I.


"Wetback" is derogatory slang referring to someone who is here illegally. US citizens that are hispanic will use the term freely (or "mojado", which is spanish for "wet"). This does not mean that it should be used.

if you call the wrong person a "wetback" you are likely to be seriously injured. As well, "La Raza" type groups are not likely to respond to such terms favorably.

it would be better if you just said something like "I am sorry. I didn't mean to offend and used an adjective that was in appropriate unknowingly." Or something like that.

Something else you may not know: a lot of hispanics don't like the term "Mexican", either. It is recieved as a derogatory reference. "HIspanic" or "Latino" is preferred by most. A sure way to start a fight in Texas to to call them a "Mexican", but say it like "Messkin".

They are a proud people, on the whole. Like any people, treat them with the respect you want your children treated with.



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reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 04:15 PM by darkscorpio


yes they are taking off your jobs because they do it better and cheaper,
and some people say that because they havent live in misery
so it easy for they just the law is the law bla bla bla
justice is blind
so please
u got to travel Mexico and live the way they live
u will feel like nothing



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