Mexican Military Infiltrate U.S. Border & Hold U.S. Border Agent At Gunpoint, page 4
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reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 03:21 PM by zorgon
Originally posted by WarBow
Hmmm. Isn't sending troops into a foreign country an open act of war?
Wonder what the official response will be. I mean, Mexico does have oil. We can't have an oil producing country instigating violence now can we?


Just think of all the illegals already in our country now getting free medical at our hospitals... go to a Wendy's in Vegas... the staff ONLY speak Mexican and most can't even understand your order... ( a pet peeve) but I bet this is not the only place...

If we declare Oil War on Mexico we are already flooded with insurgents

Recently there was a protest about new immigration laws... the illegals were upset... even at my daughters school the kids were in favor of keeping them..

There was an organized protest... it was peaceful.. but the protest was for keeping illegals here and giving them status..

If they were all so gung ho about becoming American than WHY did the organizers allow THIS



To be sure there was outrage... and this one act did them more harm than good and they pulled them the next day and flew American flags...

But WHY didn't we shoot them right then and there or at least wrap them in their flag and send them home?

What an insult protesting to stay in America flying the Mexican flag...

Now we have Mexican Military on our soil?

Mexicans Protest Las Vegas Meeting
Marchers Carrying Mexican Flags Cry "Racism" -- Again

Challenging America
In a demonstration that would land Americans in jail in Mexico, some 100 protesters carrying Mexican flags are demonstrating against a meeting called to unite forces against illegal immigration. Photo at left was taken at about 12:45 pm Pacific on Sunday, May 29.
Immigration insanity: Mexicans protest, U.S. just sits there


www.americanpatrol.com...

Meanwhile Haliburton sucks up money at the expense of our troops...

Halliburton, and Dick Cheney, are killing our troops
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Iraqi government expected to have $79 billion surplus while YOU shell out at the Pumps
www.abovetopsecret.com...

And the government wants to give control of our ports to the Arabs
Delaying of Dubai Port Deal Brings Port Authority Grief
www.nytimes.com...


And what do we do? Sit around at our computer in chat rooms and forums and bitch about it




reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 03:24 PM by projectvxn
reply to post by Ariana9



Racist comments are not tolerated on ATS. You can give your point of view without using such language.


reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 03:40 PM by zorgon
Seems the scene was the same in Dallas Texas Schools...

www.dallasnews.com...




Whittier area students from Pioneer, California and Whittier high schools walked out of classes to protest the proposed federal immigration bill March 27, 2006. The protestors put up the Mexican flag over the American flag flying upside down at Montebello High. (Leo Jarzomb/Staff photo)






michellemalkin.com...



[edit on 7-8-2008 by zorgon]


reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 04:14 PM by SHADOW WALKER
reply to post by downtown436 Our So Called Government Has Been Bought And Paid For Brother ! Our Border Patrol Have Their Hands Tied . They Are Out Gunned , Under Equipped , Under Staffed And Are Afraid To Even Shoot Back At The Shooters That Fire On Them From Across The Border All The Time . (You Wont Hear About That Either From The Dog And Pony Media Flunkies) .Because They Are Afraid Of Being Imprisoned By Our Government For Doing So .Ever Hear About Agents Compian And Ramos ? . The Only Way To Really Secure This Country Is Going To Be For All Militias To Go And Do What Needs To Be Done , Because It Sure As Hell Wont Be Done By Our Idiots In The Senate , Congress , White House . Any Incursion By Any Foreign Military Into Our Country Is An Act Of War Period ! They Have Done It Over And Over And Now They Are Threatening Our Border Patrol With Weapons On The Agents Post ? What The Hell More Reason Do WE Need To Start Shooting To Kill These Invaders ? They Are Testing The Waters Friends . They Get Bolder And Bolder Every Time They Cross Our Lines . They Aren't Just Smuggling Drugs And Illegal Workers . They Are Smuggling Terrorist Agents And Weaponry For These Same Terrorist's . Don't Think For A Minute That They Aren't ! They Have Been For Years .And That's Straight From A Smugglers Own Mouth "FACT" !! The Border Should Be Manned By The Marines And Army And Treated As A Military Zone . Plain And Simple . I'll Guarantee You One Thing , If Some Of our Military Conducted The Same Incursions Into Mexico There Would Be Hell To Pay ! And Ol Retard Bush Would Be Kissing More Mexican Presidents Ass More Than He Already Does . Either Way It's Gotta Stop And Stop Now !





reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 07:12 PM by Myendica
reply to post by WarBow


Haha. I love it. I thought the same thing. Sounds like an invasion to me. Though hey the gov too busy spying on its own citizens to be able to actually care.


reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 07:20 PM by bigfatfurrytexan
i am a VERY pro-open borders kind of guy. I am a white male living less than 2 hours from the border. my wife is hispanic, and she wants the borders shut down tight, with armed guard. she is slowly winning me over.

first, on topic with the OP...we must be careful in thinking we know who these men were. It is VERY ambiguous, with soldiers sometimes moonlighting with the cartels paramilitary.

Consider this article:

www.newsmax.com...


Los Zetas, a notorious Gulf cartel hit squad formed by elite Mexican army deserters, is making an audacious pitch for new recruits by appealing to soldiers and other deserters from the Mexican army.

The bizarre recruiting campaign promises good pay, free food, medical care, cars, and even loans to army soldiers and defectors who join the ruthless drug cartel's elite band of hit men.

The group, which publically taunts the Mexican military with phone numbers for job seekers on large banners, has been instrumental in the nearly 100,000 desertions that have taken place in the past eight years.

Outrageous as it sounds, the cartel’s brash appeal is working. Many defectors who find it almost impossible to get legitimate employment without revealing their status as deserters, along with poorer Mexicans who can’t find work, are taking to the offer.

Cartels have long been known for showy displays designed to gain public support. Along the violence-savaged U.S.-Mexico border, and in other parts of the region where Mexico's fight against traffickers resembles a real war, the message is being received. Just 17 months after President Felipe Calderón ordered the army into drug hotspots, the smugglers have succeeded in traumatized Mexicans by creating confusion among civilians and the authorities.


It is very likely that these mlitary were from the drug cartel, and they were trying to terrorize a locality for a specific purpose.

I konw lots of hispanics, many of them from Mexico (both legally and illegally, i would suspect). great, great people in general (suffering from the same personality issues that you see among all humans). There is no reason for any prejudice, as it is a wonderful culture that i have embraced whole heartedly (as has my family).

Having said this, we MUST get our border sealed up. If not, this is what we can look forward to continuing:


www.immigrationshumancost.org...

www.ice.gov...

One day i hope that our borders can open and we can be free with the Mexican nation. But they have a long way to go at taming their people.



reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 10:50 PM by TXMACHINEGUNDLR
reply to post by CO Vet



You need to have been down there to understand this. I doubt this was a drug thing. There are honest to God NO FENCES in parts of that hell hole. Without GPS or knowing the land you can get lost very easy. I know that our guys have crossed over on accident before. No biggie. It is the ones that fire on Border Patrol that you should be pissed off about.


reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 10:58 PM by avingard
Originally posted by Rook1545
reply to
post by CO Vet



Not that this is a good thing, but when the news agencies put out a story about the letter agencies running ops in places like Iran and Syria, it is a good thing. I must be missing something here. When the US does it, it is all good, when someone else does it, we scream bloody murder from the mountaintops? I am not saying either is a good thing, but if you are going to support one nation doing it, you can't really decry another for the same thing.


Iran is supplying munitions too Iraqi insurgents who are using them to kill US troops and TONS of Iraqi citizens. Mexico is invading a neighboring country who isn't doing anything to hurt them. If anything, Mexico is benefiting from having us as a neighbor. The situations are entirely different.
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