Mexican Military Infiltrate U.S. Border & Hold U.S. Border Agent At Gunpoint, page 2
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reply posted on 6-8-2008 @ 05:49 PM by TrueAmerican
reply to post by spec_ops_wannabe



Yes, there was testimony before a congressional hearing that there have been over 230 such incursions across the border. I find it interesting that more firepower from the National Guard is not in place along our borders. But that is as much Congress's fault as it is the President's:

Section 8 - Powers of Congress

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;


It seems neither has the interest of stopping these drug running goons from having their way with our southern border. But of course not, lest all those dividends from Mexican oil imports stop flowing.

We need to blast those biatches one real good time and maybe they'll get the message. So how many hundreds of incidents like these have to happen before they are not considered "isolated cases?"


reply posted on 6-8-2008 @ 06:11 PM by marg6043
reply to post by centurion1211



This has nothing to do with bashing, but because you brough the subject . . . the reality of the matter is that our own Bush clan and cons are dealing and making plans behind closed doors for their corporate take over with NAFTA.

So as you see why should bush protect a border than in couple years will not matter anyway?

Read more about the NAFTA and the corporate rats that are pushing it regardless if we want it or not.

Drug business without borders will be very profitable indeed.


reply posted on 6-8-2008 @ 06:36 PM by jackinthebox
reply to post by CO Vet



Their timeline ended, and they left the border. They weren't there for active border security anyways.


Yes, and when Bush pulled them, he was sure to add exactly what part of the border would be left unprotected until new Border Patrol units would come on line six months later.


reply posted on 6-8-2008 @ 06:38 PM by jackinthebox
reply to post by CO Vet



Wonder when we're gonna finally have a firefight between our agents and the Mexican military protecting the drugrunners and illegal smugglers?


The sooner the better if you ask me. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm ready for a shooting war with Mexico.



reply posted on 6-8-2008 @ 07:27 PM by Slash
reply to post by projectvxn



I salute you as a fellow American.

Some thing needs to be done about this whole situation, though I'm not as versed as a lot of you when it comes to deciding how to retaliate, I do agree that this all has to stop. Over the past 15 years, I've noticed an influx of people who know very little english, or none at all, ¿Habla Español? I try not to single these people out as I treat every one as human, but if you break a national law, it's the law.


reply posted on 6-8-2008 @ 08:37 PM by projectvxn
Originally posted by Slash
reply to
post by projectvxn



I salute you as a fellow American.

Some thing needs to be done about this whole situation, though I'm not as versed as a lot of you when it comes to deciding how to retaliate, I do agree that this all has to stop. Over the past 15 years, I've noticed an influx of people who know very little english, or none at all, ¿Habla Español? I try not to single these people out as I treat every one as human, but if you break a national law, it's the law.


This isn't quite about illegal immigration so much for me as foreign troops taking up arms against our people and our border agents on our soil. That is internationally recognized as a blatant act of war. This is not something to be taken lightly, but I doubt anyone will even do anything about it.

Maybe it is time to exercise our right to form well regulated militias. Not to go invade Mexico, but to protect our border from further military aggression by Mexican forces, and to curb the flow of illegal immigration and drug trafficking(Which often go hand in hand). I recognize that there's alot more going on than just these incursions by Mexican forces. Part of it has to do with things president Bush has done without any approval what so ever, SPP, NAFTA, and the threat of succumbing to an NAU government.

Britain has been erased. British troops now answer to the E.U.

I won't answer to the NAU.
Only the U.S.A. and it's Constitution and Bill of Rights. This country wasn't founded to allow another foreign controlled government system to abolish what blood and sacrifice once accomplished.

That once shed blood and those sacrifices have been replaced by wealth generating corporate systems(Fascism) and greed(Everyone in our government). Nothing in these "Economic deals" holds any long term benefits for us. Only more controlled in the hands of fewer people everywhere in the world. I don't think we should close off from the world, but we can't just be pushed around, and the corporations running the show need to be put in their place before they sell off everything else we worked for no ones benefit but their own.

We need to fight this. The Mexican government has wanted to take over what was formally their territory ever since they lost it. If we don't do something about this when they sign the final paperwork on the NAU, we will be asked two things, comply or be destroyed, be silenced, be tortured, be sold.

I choose number 3...My choice. My choice is not to allow Mexico to invade us militarily and cause harm to our people due to their actions. It is the only reason I see for me to actually take up arms and fight a war.


reply posted on 6-8-2008 @ 11:12 PM by jackinthebox
reply to post by downtown436



Meanwhile, law abiding citizens have to deal with this...



EDIT to add: And this is one of the least "infringing" one of the series that I have seen. Just happens to be the first one that popped up when I searched YouTube.



[edit on 8/6/0808 by jackinthebox]


reply posted on 6-8-2008 @ 11:47 PM by spec_ops_wannabe
reply to post by jackinthebox



Eh, that ones a little iffy on this issue. The agent in the video was a border patrol agent trying to search for illegal immigrants. I honestly think it's kind of best to keep that as a separate issue for now since we are talking about Mexican military units invading American soil and outgunning our border patrol. A lot of these border patrol agents are more likely to be the kind of people who want to keep those guys out of our country but they are unable to since they aren't allowed to even touch them.

Edit: Also, that guy in the video was acting like an @$$hole honestly.

[edit on 6-8-2008 by spec_ops_wannabe]



reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 01:08 AM by jackinthebox
reply to post by spec_ops_wannabe



Also, that guy in the video was acting like an @$$hole honestly.


So now it's down to a few a-holes who actually still bother to stick up for their Constitutional rights? Oh, I get it, he should have just gave in.

(Frog continues to boil)

The point is, that now we have the Mexican Army openly challenging the Border Patrol, and nothing is done about it. No wonder the BP agents decide to set up roadblocks fourty miles away from the border.
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