Originally posted by TheRepublic
obviously you know nothing about ron paul or what his supporters believe.
Yes I do. Yet for the past few months from all the political sites including this one, iv seen an increasing trend where by more Ron Paulers flip flop
on what they claim to believe in. I see plenty of em complaining about two party system, complaining about the media propaganda, whining about how Ron
Paul was cheated etc. yet at the same time these very same members are the ones posting this propaganda on behalf of one of the two parties, defending
either McCain or Obama, supporting the rumours coming from one the two parties and turning their backs to "Ron Paul values". Its called
i gave more money to his campaign then any other ever and i am not rich. i did it because he was the real deal he said what he ment and he
stuck with it. ron isnt a good speaker, his platform spoke for him.
Yes and thats great, you believe in Ron Paul and support him through and through, you stand for his platform. But let me ask you this, dont you think
for instance its well hypocritical to claim that your against the two party system, against the Bush administration, for Ron Pauls policies/ values,
that your "centrist", yet in other bias topics you outright support either McCain or Obama and you defend their policies? You participate in the
rumours and propaganda from one of these two parties, you always defend one of these two candidates. Wouldnt that make you part of the problem as you
would claim to stand against? Do you see where im coming from here?
he didnt need media praise to get attention his ideas got him more money in one day than any canidate ever! he was the real thing, and that is
why he lost.
Ron Paul lost because he didnt appeal to the wider population of americans. He may be the real thing to you but not necessarly to the rest america.
Too often people try to find excuses to blame others for why their candidate lost. I see it with Hill supporters, Ron Paul supporters, Romney
supporters. "Oh its the media" "oh everybody else is ignorant because they dont support my candidate", theres never really responsibility put onto
the candidate him/herself, theres never an understanding that in politics you either gain enough votes or you loose. I admit the republican party was
abit unfair to Paul but at the same time he did not appeal to most americans, only a minority of americans shared his belief, and thats why he lost
the nomination, simple as that.
Theres no need to put a conspiracy spin to make an excuse for what things really are.
because he was the real deal. just because you people are stuck in the two party mindframe dont try and put ron paul people in the same
Yes all the while I see plenty of supposed Ron Paulers defending one of the two party candidates, posting or supporting the propaganda from the two
parties. Im not the one putting Ron Paul people in that box, it is the members that claim to be for Ron Paul that choose to place themselves there
when they think nobodies looking.
we know the system is a joke. thats why he lost, not because a lack of enthusiasm on the part of his supporters.
I am refering to many of the flip floppers among the Ron Paul supporters who will claim to be against the system and for Ron Paul in one forum yet
will say something totally different in another. Thats my point, this tactic where by people use Ron Paul or one of the other third party candidates
to sound impartial, centrist, independent, but at the same time will lean far right or left and support much of the propaganda thats coming out from
and all you who support the major canidates are just playing along in a giant joke.
Iv always been a Democrat. I supported Kerry in 2004 and was prepared to support any democrat candidate running for president in 2008. I was against
the Iraq war and Bush at a time when you were labelled unpatriotic for speaking out against the lies. I was for the Democrats at a time when it was
"cool" to say you were Bushie in public. Obama was always my candidate, I support Obama right now. Just because you believe your candidate is all
wonderful and what not does not mean everybody else has to run with that belief. Just because Ron Paul lost the nomination does not mean these some
conspiracy afoot, its an excuse for the fact he didnt gain enough support.
have fun with that.
Hey Im happy my candidate got through, but if Obama lost in anycase I would have support Hillary or Edwards because I want a Democrat in the
whitehouse, not a republican, not Ron Paul. I support the Democrats. If Obama lost the nomination, I wouldnt automatically assume its some "game" or
conspiracy to get my candidate out of the elections, I would accept the fact that he just didnt appeal to enough americans. Am I totally taking out
corruption from the government and the election process? No im not. But I would understand that he lost because he simply didnt gain enough
favourability with the voters, and thats just how politics works.
i will continue to make fun of BOTH canidates. dont just cry when you dont like it when i make fun of yours.
Do you mean you'll stick with the rest of the anti-Obamanians, pro-McSames? Thats fine, it further proves my point.
what a ridiculous statement. you know did it ever occur to you that ron paul people might actually like their canidate because of his
That wasnt my arguement, read it again. There are flip floppers trying to sound impartial, using the Ron Paul or Bob Barr name yet at the same time
being verymuch for one of the two party nominees. Thats my point, the hyporisy of Ron Paulers. Show me where I said "all Ron Paulers"... neither am
I refering to the former Ron Paulers who are now voting for either McCain or Obama and admitting so.
I am refering to some of these members behind these smear threads who claim they are Ron Paul supporters and then some how this makes them
"impartial". One day you find them speaking out against the injustice and propaganda and lies of the two party system, the next day you see them
posting and supporting some propaganda thread from one of the two parties.
Very hypocritical if you ask me.
no its all a conspiracy to make fun of your canidate.
Yes everythings a conspiracy when Ron Pauls not included eh?
[edit on 6-8-2008 by southern_Guardian]