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posted on Mar, 14 2004 @ 01:26 PM
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Charles L. Wood, a Navy veteran, received his Ph.D. from the University of Iowa and was a professor at the University of Akron. In addition, he held positions as teacher and administrator in elementary, secondary and higher education. He has traveled extensively throughout the world and lived for several years in France and Germany. He authored two books on Education and over thirty articles in national journals prior to writing "The Mormon Conspiracy." He also was editor of the national journal, "American Secondary Education."

Excerpts From “The Mormon Conspiracy”

* It is estimated that the assets of the Mormon Church have increased from about $15 billion in 1983 to over 50 billion in 2000.

* Over sixty thousand fully-trained, adequately financed and prepared Mormon missionaries are serving in all parts of the United States and in over 124 countries around the world.

* Because young Mormon men have served in and studied the languages of foreign countries throughout the world, large numbers of them have been hired by the federal Central Intelligence Agency and therefore are in control of a significant amount of CIA activities.

* Many Mormon men have been hired by the FBI, a preponderance when considering their proportion to the percentage of the population.

* A top leader of the Mormon Church has stated: “When our leaders speak the thinking has been done. When they propose a plan--it is God’s plan. When they point the way, there is no other way that is safe. When they give direction, it should mark the end of controversy.”

* A Mormon Church radio network is in operation that is both national and worldwide. The Mormon Church-owned Brigham Young University airs church promoting broadcasts throughout the world. The basketball games of BYU are especially attractive to South American listeners.

* The church utilizes radio and television stations throughout the United States to broadcast “Home Front Series” offering to send listeners free copies of the KJV of the Bible or the “Book of Mormon and family-value videos. They are given toll-free phone numbers to call for these. When they arrive, they come with two Mormon missionaries “attached,” wanting an appointment to talk to families. These radio and television commercials are professionally produced and designed to enhance the public image of the church. (For anyone who orders these free materials from the Home Front, the Mormon Church has a professionally organized follow-up program. In addition, after the missionary visits, the mission president’s office of the district follows up these proselytizing calls).

* In states with a high concentration of Mormon Churches, non-Mormon boys who want to participate in Boy Scout activities often must join the Mormon Church-sponsored group. In these areas the Boy Scout troops become important recruiting prospects for the church. Because the Boy Scouts have a “God and Country” award for those performing their duties well, it connects Scouts with a religion, and thus Scout programs become also an important proselytizing and indoctrination tool for the church.

* Since the church hierarchy “hold the keys to the temple,” members must remain loyal and obedient to the church in order to get a temple recommend that allows entrance therein. Even parents of the bride and groom must have a temple recommend to attend weddings of their sons or daughters. And since members must have a temple recommend from their bishop (a trusted, faithful servant of the church), also signed by the stake president in order to be allowed to enter the temple, a recommend becomes a powerful tool that the Authorities use in obtaining compliance with the laws and rules of the church, including the required ten percent tithing. This explains why Church Authorities have been building temples at a record pace in recent years.

* Just as the United States Army has its military academy, and the United States Air Force has the Air Force academy, the Mormon Church has Brigham Young University for training its future leaders. There are at least 100,000 leadership positions for Mormon priesthood holders to assume, including bishops, stake presidents, mission, district and branch presidents and the General Authorities. What better way could be found to provide for the thousands of leaders for the Mormon Church than to give them a low cost education which not only ensures further indoctrination into church teachings and beliefs, but also provides students with a lifetime comfortable income? And ten percent of this income will be funneled back into the church to pay for continued proselytizing and expansion of the church, all controlled by a handful of men, the General authorities. And the Mormon Church hierarchy’s indoctrination program is having outstanding success, for according to a BYU survey of its students, 98 percent believe in Joseph Smith as a Prophet and 98 percent believe that the Mormon Church is divine, the “Only true Church on the face of the whole earth.” In addition, 88 percent would “place obedience to authority above your own personal preferences.”

* The CES (Church Educational System) and the higher education system which are shaping church members and church leaders to be “obedient, intensely loyal, disciplined, submissive to ecclesiastical authority, committed to official orthodoxy as defined by the hierarchy,” are just what the Church Authorities intend.

* We live in a pluralistic society encompassing many nationalities, religions and cultures. Most of us believe in individualism and free thinking. From this pluralistic society our laws have been developed. That may not be pleasing to all, but our laws have been accepted by the majority. Within this society, we have individuals with the necessary leadership abilities to maintain and improve our freedoms. Hopefully, we have the capability to prevent the control of our society by an organization that would limit our individual freedoms and democracy. Since it is believed that the Mormon General Authorities conspire to turn this country into their kingdom, we must expose them and insure that they will not succeed.

* Joseph Smith taught that a man who took ten wives with him to heaven had ten times as much chance of becoming God of his own planet than a man who took only one wife. It is said that Joseph’s own adventure with plural marriage began with Fannie Alger. Oliver Cowdery, who at one time was second in command of the Mormon Church, called Joseph’s relation with Fannie Alger, at that time about eighteen, “a dirty, nasty, filthy affair.” Joseph’s polygamist marriages did not stop with unmarried women, as he also “married” Priescindia Huntington Buell, who was the wife of Norman Buell who had left the Mormon Church. Priescindia had stated that she did not know whether her husband or Joseph was the father of her child. A picture of her son Oliver Buell in Fawn Brodie’s book, “No Man Knows My History,” shows resemblance to Joseph Smith. Brodie also states that Oliver Buell was “sealed or adopted” to Smith in the Mormon temple in Salt Lake City.

*Students who are admitted and professors who are employed at Brigham Young University must adhere to the university policy that requires annual recommendation letters from local Mormon bishops verifying that these persons have continuing temple recommends. Receiving and continuing the temple recommend requires that the member certify that one is loyal to church leaders and is faithful to church teachings. Since nine of the First presidency and the Quorum of Twelve Apostles are members of the thirteen-member BYU Board of Trustees, the church hierarchy insures that the university professors and students comply with church doctrine.

* Few foreign citizens are aware that the Mormon Church is not predominantly “The American Church,” but only a minority church. It is not a mainstream American church, nor does the Mormon “American church uphold the American democratic ideals that many foreigners admire. Instead of American democratic ideals, the Mormon Church is governed by a monarchical style of administration, in which the head of the church, the “President,” assisted by apostles and other General Authorities, makes all appointments and decisions of the church. The President of the church is not elected by church members, but assumes power strictly by seniority as the oldest apostle (in seniority as an apostle).

* The Mormon Church authorities have no right to allege to citizens of foreign countries that the Mormon Church is an American church which typifies American culture and beliefs.

* Mormon women are taught that men, through the power of the priesthood, also provide the path for them to communicate with God. Men, who are the priesthood holders, according to doctrine, have mystical powers (not given to women) to heal the sick and to remove evil spirits from them. Men have the authority in the home and generally lead all prayer there, lead all church services and others such as funerals, weddings, etc.

*Spirits waiting to enter mortal existence was another one of Joseph Smith’s creations arising from his remarkable imagination. The idea, no doubt, had the ulterior motive of increasing membership in his church by encouraging members to have large families. Smith’s desire to expand the membership of his church has resulted in great burdens being place upon young married women, who need this time to gain an education or training for a vocation that would improve their economic positions in life. Instead, they are tied down to bearing and raising more children.
* By creating the priesthood, Joseph Smith was able to provide a framework from which the church would grow and also prevent defectors. Within this organization is a system that provides constant vigilance upon members to pressure them to remain in the church. It is not unlike the Communist spying system which held the Russian and surrounding smaller nations’ peoples under the Communist dictatorship of the Proletariat for almost a century, only to be broken when Mikhail Gorbachev destroyed the spying system in his attempt to democratize the Communist Party.

* Because of long indoctrination, frequent social interaction in the church, and overseeing by the priesthood, former members find leaving the Mormon Church accompanied by trauma, psychological problems and social disorganization. This is especially so if a member of the church has been born into a family that is active in the church, and has grown to adulthood while a member. To understand why it is so difficult to leave the church, even if one has a strong desire to do so, it is important to know about the intense propagandizing, reinforcement, social controls and the priesthood “watch” that insure members “toe the line” regarding church regulations and doctrine.

*Probably the most embarrassing church member for the Mormon hierarchy was Mark Hofmann, a forger-bomber. This is because the current President of the Mormon Church, 91 year old Gordon B. Hinckley, was directly involved in the Mormon document forgeries. Hinckley served as a second counselor of the church’s First Presidency when he made arrangements through intermediaries to purchase historical documents from Hofmann. Unbeknownst to Hinckley was the fact that the documents he purchased for the church were forged by Hofmann. Hofmann, who had lost faith in the church and had a deep resentment toward it, developed a clever scheme to destroy the church that he hated as well as to become rich through it. His scheme was first to forge faith-promoting documents and thus gain the confidence of the church hierarchy. Then he followed up by forging documents that, if they became public, would destroy the faith of many. He became skilled at developing paper through the use of chemicals that gave his documents the appearance of old writings. Some of these that he forged appeared to be in Joseph Smith’s own handwriting.

*Mormonism---“is like a cancer that has invaded my body, even my very soul. When I left the church, I removed a large lump, only to find that the cancer had spread. But day by day and bit by bit I am removing that which would prevent my body and soul from living free.”


Could Mormons be part of the NWO?? It seems very possible to me. Where I live, 75 percent of the people are Mormon. They own Utah and most of Idaho.




posted on Mar, 14 2004 @ 01:32 PM
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They had a portion on this on one of the News Shows on TV. 60 minutes or 20/20. The research is interesting.
Isn't the Mormon Church run by the elusive prophet Warren Jeffs?



posted on Mar, 14 2004 @ 01:41 PM
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Originally posted by cheshire cat
They had a portion on this on one of the News Shows on TV. 60 minutes or 20/20. The research is interesting.
Isn't the Mormon Church run by the elusive prophet Warren Jeffs?


No, the current President of the church is Gordon B. Hinkley.



posted on Mar, 14 2004 @ 01:50 PM
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I don't think its just the Mormon Church that is part of the conspiracy. Look at all churches. They are embedded in the NWO.



posted on Mar, 14 2004 @ 04:05 PM
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I live in Utah and come from a large Mormon family (father's side only). I studied the Mormon books for about a year straight, and I am very suspicious of them for many reasons.

Here's what I know and what I think about this topic.

First, the Mormons operate on three books:

The Pearl of Great Price. This is Joseph Smith's supposed re-translation of the Torah, or the first 5 books of the Old Testament from the legendary golden plates.

The Book of Mormon. Mormon's believe that Joe Smith was given the location of golden plates by the Angel Moroni and Jesus himself in upstate New York. The plates tell a story of the 2 lost tribes of Israel, who, by divine intervention made their way to the American continent. It also tells of Jesus actually visiting the American continent (south/central America) and spreading his word.

They also have a very interesting concept of heaven generally explained in one of my previous posts here

The Doctrine and Covenants. This one is self explanatory, but to read it with scrutiny and skepticism, you can really tell how it was formulated to emphasize wealth, land ownership, and the importance of membership.




It is estimated that the assets of the Mormon Church have increased from about $15 billion in 1983 to over 50 billion in 2000.


Of course, since they're a religion they are not reqired to report financial standing by law. But my uncle, who has worked at the Church Office Building (the largest in SLC) as a records keeper, tells me that total church worth is at about $40 billion right now. This is not accurate because total church worth doesn't include business holdings, which I will get into later.


Over sixty thousand fully-trained, adequately financed and prepared Mormon missionaries are serving in all parts of the United States and in over 124 countries around the world.


That number might be overstated, because the Missionary Training Center, affectionately reffered to as the MTC by those of the fold turns out about 250 fully trained missionaries every six month cycle. However, if the unconventional missionaries (older, more established in home and hearth) who serve local missions ranging from education to drug and alcohol rehabilitation were counted, this number would easlily be accurate.


Because young Mormon men have served in and studied the languages of foreign countries throughout the world, large numbers of them have been hired by the federal Central Intelligence Agency and therefore are in control of a significant amount of CIA activities.

Many Mormon men have been hired by the FBI, a preponderance when considering their proportion to the percentage of the population.


True. Lingquistic abilities of returned missionaries are valued by these agencies. They have learned the languages in the countries of origin, and have knowledge of current dialects and colloquialisms. Real world language education.

It is also true that there are a lot of Mormons in these agencies, but there are good reasons. Mormons are valued for their honesty and trustworthiness, which is highly stressed in their doctrine, as well as their extrememly clean living.

Another note: Ezra Taft Benson, a recent president of the Church served as Eisenhower's Secretary of Agriculture and was a strong opponent of corporate farming. I draw a connection between Utah and the construction of Mt. Weather (FEMA stronghold) that was built during the Eisenhower administration, since Utah is a very highly mined state. The Utah open-pit copper mine is one of the few man-made landmarks that can be seen from space. Utah is also known for it's high concentration of uranium at Moab and Alta/Park City.


The church utilizes radio and television stations throughout the United States...

These radio and television commercials are professionally produced and designed to enhance the public image of the church.


Bonneville Communications, the Mormon owned media outlet is one of the largest in the country. It owns KSL (Utah television and radio, the latter nationally syndicated) and both Salt Lake papers, the Deseret News and the Salt Lake Tribune. This is where Mormon commercials and prostheletizing materials are professionally produced.

On a side note, a good friend of mine, Bob Lanoue, frequently appears in LDS commercials. He is a frequent THC and psylocybine abuser, and last year made his independent film debut at the Sundance Film Festival as the lead in "The Man in the Box".

The church also owns Beneficial Life Insurance company, who offers life insurance to members at no profit, and flat, unchanging premiums. Beneficial life was recently implicated in a California insurance gouging scandal, and as a result simply ceased all dealings in that state.

Dole Pineapple is owned by the church, and has a spiritual retreat for young Mormons in Hawaii, where for eight hours a day, they pick pineapple from the ground. The church leases quite a bit of land on Hawaii (only native born Hawaiians can legally own the land) for agriculture and cattle farming.

Brigham Young University also has a large campus in Hawaii.


In states with a high concentration of Mormon Churches, non-Mormon boys who want to participate in Boy Scout activities often must join the Mormon Church...

...it connects Scouts with a religion, and thus Scout programs become also an important proselytizing and indoctrination tool for the church.


My mom actually took me out of the Webelos when I was 12 because church members often insisted that I be baptized.


...the recommend becomes a powerful tool that the Authorities use in obtaining compliance with the laws and rules of the church, including the required ten percent tithing. This explains why Church Authorities have been building temples at a record pace in recent years.


Actually, the business profits explain the rapid spread of temples. A very, very small percentage of church members actually pay the full 10% tithing, however there is another form of tithing called a 'fast offering' that is gathered every first friday of each month.

Not Surprisingly, consistency in tithing payments bear great impact on one's progression in church hierarchy, much as does voting history in secular American politics.


Just as the United States Army has its military academy, and the United States Air Force has the Air Force academy, the Mormon Church has Brigham Young University for training its future leaders...

...provide for the thousands of leaders for the Mormon Church than to give them a low cost education which... ...provides students with a lifetime comfortable income? And ten percent of this income will be funneled back into the church


Some general inconsistencies in these statements: BYU is not "low cost" by most standards, and few scholarships are conferred. Most attendees pay full price. And again, most Mormons don't pay the full 10% tithing.



...Mormon General Authorities conspire to turn this country into their kingdom...


Utah has an extremely high percentage of federally owned land and is second only to Nevada. We have a quite a few national parks and forests, but it is actually due to the actions of the second president of the LDS church, Brigham Young. Utah fell into great disfavor with the feds when Young expressed his intention to secede from the Union. The US Army promptly erected Fort Douglas and emplaced several battalions of cavalry and infantry. Fort Douglas is now the headquarters of the UofU ROTC battalion.


Joseph Smith taught that a man who took ten wives with him to heaven had ten times as much chance of becoming God of his own planet than a man who took only one wife.


Yes, Mormons believe that this life is 'God training' and that families that are sealed in the temple are sealed forever in the celestial kingdom. The Mormon books also refer subtly, but often, to a 'Heavenly Mother'. Which is probably good.


The Mormon Church authorities have no right to allege to citizens of foreign countries that the Mormon Church is an American church which typifies American culture and beliefs.


Of the church's 11 million members, almost 4 million of them are in south and central America.


Spirits waiting to enter mortal existence was another one of Joseph Smith’s creations arising from his remarkable imagination.


In fact, Mormons believe that these spirits are currently engaged in the war between good and evil, which takes place on the fabled Elysian fields.


Within this organization is a system that provides constant vigilance upon members to pressure them to remain in the church. It is not unlike the Communist spying system...


This is just my opinion based on what I have observed, but Mormons are especially nosy and prying. In Utah, everyone knows everyone elses business.

Reporting of infidelities on the part of fellow members to church authorities is actually condoned, for the purposes of intervention and purification.


Because of long indoctrination, frequent social interaction in the church, and overseeing by the priesthood, former members find leaving the Mormon Church accompanied by trauma, psychological problems and social disorganization.


Utah has an unproportionately high rate of prescription anti-depressant drug use. This I believe is due more to the unnatainably high standards of conduct required by the church doctrine.


Anyway, there's some more info. I don't know if it lends to or detracts from the argument, but it is the truth as I am aware of it.

I hope this helps.

DeltaChaos

[Edited on 14-3-2004 by DeltaChaos]



posted on Mar, 14 2004 @ 06:40 PM
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Sorry, messed up double post.


[Edited on 14-3-2004 by JustAnIllusion]



posted on Mar, 14 2004 @ 06:51 PM
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If you count the Old and New Testaments.

They all carry this one huge book with the Testament, the Gospels, The POGP, and the BOM with doctrine and coventants. They call it the 'Quad'.

Another interesting thing you might want to look into is the new mulit-million dollar Conference Center in downtown SLC. My friends and I like to call it the Death Star, because it's a literal battle station. The design is straight out of Roman fortification architecture.

It has tiers on all sides (such as archer tiers on ancient fortifications), a water system independent of the city's water and running water on every level of the tiered structure. It has a clear line of sight to every avenue of approach. The roof is actually a prairie of indigeonous foliage, as well as the tiers on all sides, effectively camouflaging it from every angle save the facade.

They actually bought a part of downtown main street for it's massive underground parking structure. No doubt you've heard of the constitutional conflict regarding the procurement of this 'public' place.

Anyway, that's some stuff I wanted to include, but forgot.

DC



posted on Mar, 14 2004 @ 06:59 PM
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The church utilizes radio and television stations throughout the United States to broadcast “Home Front Series” offering to send listeners free copies of the KJV of the Bible or the “Book of Mormon and family-value videos. They are given toll-free phone numbers to call for these. When they arrive, they come with two Mormon missionaries “attached,” wanting an appointment to talk to families. These radio and television commercials are professionally produced and designed to enhance the public image of the church. (For anyone who orders these free materials from the Home Front, the Mormon Church has a professionally organized follow-up program. In addition, after the missionary visits, the mission president’s office of the district follows up these proselytizing calls).

This alone makes the post worthwhile. I often wondered how they could give you something for free. I've seen that ad often in print ads. Maybe even television.
Yikes, the Jehovah Witnesses going through your neighborhood is bad enough, but here you are inviting these guys in...ooops.
BTW, I think both of these religions have strong NWO ties!

Justan Illusion~~great post
Delta Chaos~~:up
n your additional input



posted on Mar, 14 2004 @ 07:05 PM
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Bonneville Communications, the Mormon owned media outlet is one of the largest in the country. It owns KSL (Utah television and radio, the latter nationally syndicated) and both Salt Lake papers, the Deseret News and the Salt Lake Tribune. This is where Mormon commercials and prostheletizing materials are professionally produced.


So they basically control the media all over Utah, which means they can easily influence people to join their religion.

Also, I didnt know they operated on 3 books, I'll read up on it.




The Doctrine and Covenants. This one is self explanatory, but to read it with scrutiny and scepticism, you can really tell how it was formulated to emphasize wealth, land ownership, and the importance of membership.


They emphasize these 3 factors because they want to have all the wealth, land, and people, basically world domination. They are in our authorities, giving them access to everything about our government.




It is also true that there are a lot of Mormons in these agencies, but there are good reasons. Mormons are valued for their honesty and trustworthiness, which is highly stressed in their doctrine, as well as their extrememly clean living.


So our CIA and FBI are hiring them because of their doctrine's emphasisms on honesty and trustworthiness? So, if you were Mormon, you would be more likely to be hired by one of these intellegence agencies?


I think Charles L. Wood, along with DeltaC bring up a lot of valid points. I think Mormons do have a hand in the NWO, along with some other religions. I also discovered that people who study Mormon and Masonic beliefs found a lot of similarities. Smith, Rigdon, Young, and many others were Masons.



posted on Mar, 14 2004 @ 07:06 PM
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Originally posted by DontTreadOnMe
BTW, I think both of these religions have strong NWO ties!


Well, most religions, by proxy are in fact NWO proponents, as most of them believe that everyone should behave and think in the same way.

DTOM-You should be added to the team soon. Where do you live in Michigan? I went to high school at Brighton and Milford Highs...

DC



posted on Mar, 14 2004 @ 07:13 PM
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My cousin is a Mormon. Both his sister and him were abandoned by his mom (my no-good aunt) when he was a teen. The Mormon church took him in and helped them both out a great deal. He went into the Army, but when he came out he became a missionary for the L.D.S.* They sent him to Russia for several years. He wrote me about how hard it was living there. This was during the early 90's, and Russia was going through huge political and social changes. Anyway, he did learn the Russian language fluently while he was there. When he returned back to the states, he chose to work at B.Y.U. as a translator. He visited me and my wife a few years ago and spoke to me about the religion. He never fully explained the tenets of his faith, he just kept asking me to read the Book of Mormon. First off, I am a deist. This really bugged him. He wanted a conversion, and I felt that I was being pressed into something. I have not spoken to my cousin in almost 5 years. I think the church told him to avoid me, because I was a non-believer.

* Anytime I said Mormon around my cousin, he would correct me and say L.D.S. (Latter Day Saints) Is this a name thing? Do they not want to be know as Mormon?
Like the Amway people switching to Quixtar?



posted on Mar, 14 2004 @ 07:18 PM
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Originally posted by JustAnIllusion
They emphasize these 3 factors because they want to have all the wealth, land, and people, basically world domination. They are in our authorities, giving them access to everything about our government.


Absolutely. If I'm not mistaken, I believe the Mo's are second in actual land ownership only to the Catholics. If not, they are way up there.


So, if you were Mormon, you would be more likely to be hired by one of these intellegence agencies?


Well, if they were to hire me, it would most likely be due to the fact that I'm a badass.


I also discovered that people who study Mormon and Masonic beliefs found a lot of similarities. Smith, Rigdon, Young, and many others were Masons.


This is also true. Very, very true. In fact, the Mormons are very keen on symbology. Strange symbols are reported to be all over the inside of the Temple, but I've never been inside. I have seen the very expensive versions of their 'garments' (the undergarments that they are commanded to wear as a barrier between the godliness inside them and the natural world) that have many strange symbols on the hems.

Wow, I guess I know a lot about these guys. Maybe I should write an article for the contest. No, too busy now. Gotta write about Rumsfeld and Rice first.

DeltaChaos Out



posted on Mar, 14 2004 @ 07:25 PM
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Originally posted by darklanser
Anytime I said Mormon around my cousin, he would correct me and say L.D.S. (Latter Day Saints) Is this a name thing? Do they not want to be know as Mormon?
Like the Amway people switching to Quixtar?


The Church of Cheese and Rice and Rattly Snakes [sic] is the 'title' of the church, while Mormon is the name of the central figure in the BOM who 'documented' it's basic scripture.

I like that Amway/Quixtar thing. That's a good analogy. Now there's a conspiracy!

DC



posted on Mar, 14 2004 @ 07:53 PM
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I'm friends with a number of Mormons, and I think its interesting that many of that faith believe that the catholic church is actually the aparatus of satan,, and some even go as far to say that the Pope is the anti-christ.


Good post



posted on Mar, 14 2004 @ 08:13 PM
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In my experience, aside from the usual soul solicitations from the more fervent members, Mormons are some of the most kind and thoughtful people I've met.

The people in the religion for the most part are genuine about living the teachings of Christ and all that stuff, but the religion itself?... Probably JACKED!!!

Then there's always:

Like some smart guy once said, "The only thing wrong with Christianity are all the Christians..." -S. Clemens?

DeltaChaos



posted on Mar, 14 2004 @ 08:19 PM
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Originally posted by DeltaChaos
In my experience, aside from the usual soul solicitations from the more fervent members, Mormons are some of the most kind and thoughtful people I've met.

The people in the religion for the most part are genuine about living the teachings of Christ and all that stuff, but the religion itself?... Probably JACKED!!!

Then there's always:

Like some smart guy once said, "The only thing wrong with Christianity are all the Christians..." -S. Clemens?

DeltaChaos


I know alot of Mormons, and overall they are very nice people. I also think there are definetly conspiracies in other religions. I was just speculating on the Mormon religion in this thread, and I will probably delve into other religions in seperate threads.

Btw, S. Clemens? AKA Mark Twain


He has some awesome quotes.



posted on Mar, 14 2004 @ 08:32 PM
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Originally posted by groovyguru
I'm friends with a number of Mormons, and I think its interesting that many of that faith believe that the catholic church is actually the aparatus of satan,, and some even go as far to say that the Pope is the anti-christ.


I notice a rivalry between Mormonism and Catholicism where Im from.

Well, the Mormons, seem to be convinced that the Pope is actually the anti-christ. Apparently, they put it up on bill-boards and stuff and give you a number to call so that they can explain their reasoning. I personally haven't called the number.

The anti-christ will be a religious leader under whom the throngs, not willing to admit that Christ came again, will unite.

The bible Prophesy tells that the antichrist will rise out of Europe and bring together the nations.

Anyway, this is most likely some of the reasoning behind this theory. I myself do not agree or disagree. I'm just kinda tryin to figure out my own theories.

I dont think that the current Pope is the anti-christ, but it could be a future pope.

Anyway, its all speculation in vain, since we already know who the antichrist is-- Hillary Clinton, of course!




Good post



Thanx



posted on Mar, 14 2004 @ 09:11 PM
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Very enlightening thread, I have enjoyed it.

Thank You,

Polar Bear



posted on Mar, 14 2004 @ 10:42 PM
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Originally posted by groovyguru
I'm friends with a number of Mormons, and I think its interesting that many of that faith believe that the catholic church is actually the aparatus of satan,, and some even go as far to say that the Pope is the anti-christ.


Yeah, apparently a lot of people believe that. The Catholics; however, believe it will be someone different. I've found though, that the easiest way to get rid of the mormons (where I live they are VERY persistant on my conversion) is to tell them that I'm Catholic.
Go figure....



posted on Mar, 14 2004 @ 11:17 PM
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I was raised Mormon, it is one of the most insidious religions that exist. I'm not Mormon any longer. I excommunicated myself years ago, but in my opinion, Mr. Wood is right in his analysis, and I commend him for stepping forward with this knowledge.



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