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reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 07:21 AM by vance
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Vice Admiral at the Pentagon in 1997 would add up to probably 150 positions not including TDY Vice Admirals.
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reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 07:27 AM by Akezzon
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Sad to see how you people almost attack eachother for your own beliefs.
So...some believe, some don't. No point to try to convince one another that you are right.
Be sceptics, but not irretionally so, be a beliver....but..again, not irretionally so.
But no matter what you believe or don't believe, BE AWARE.
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reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 07:47 AM by ufo reality
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It's Vice Admiral (J-2) Thomas Wilson
And to all those who are saying how bad the show was, I think you're acting childish.
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reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 07:50 AM by ufo reality
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I tend to believe Edgar over a J-2 Navy Intelligence Admiral at the Pentagon who has probably been trained in disinformation...
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reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 08:00 AM by dariousg
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Originally posted by ufo reality
I tend to believe Edgar over a J-2 Navy Intelligence Admiral at the Pentagon who has probably been trained in disinformation...
Correct. It looks like he admits Mitchell's request but then denies ever actually making it. Hmmmm, political sidestepping? Why then would he tell
Mitchell that it is 'true' but he has no 'need to know' access? (Edit: Actually, it turns out he didn't tell Mitchell anything, Mitchell learned
via the grapevine.) I too believe Mitchell over this guy who is used to 'bending the truth' in order to achieve his goals.
Here is a link to an article where he denies ever asking.
Admiral: Never looked for UFO
data
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reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 09:05 AM by cadric
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This is the talk with Edgar Mitchell in mp3.
Intro, music and calls to the show have been cut out.
Its been packed in a rar file
Edgar_Mitchell-Kevin_Smith_Show.rar
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reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 10:38 AM by rocksolidbrain
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All these guys, celebrities or otherwise, who talk a lot and make more heat than light, are not trustworthy.
Don't waste your time on them.
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reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 10:58 AM by LordThumbs
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I know it would be closed minded of me to assume that all younger generation people these days dont really respect the older more accomplished
generations.
your lack of empathy towards someone who walked on the moon for 9 hours is a dead give away that your more interested in listening to youself
talk/write than actually applying yourself to the reality thats outside your doorstep. your not alone though, and im sure at some point youll calm
down and sort of just "think" about what your saying.
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reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 12:45 PM by yeti101
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did you know mitchell also believes a remote crystal healer prevented him getting kidney cancer and he's also into ESP.
i know mitchell doesnt know anything becuase he believes an alien spaceship crashed at roswell. Those old timers he's spoken to, probably the likes
of frank kaufman have been feeding him bunk.
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reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 12:49 PM by BornPatriot
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I wasted my time, geez... I typed up a whole host of questions for mitchell... from the studio light crashing to the van allen radiation belts.
and the show was taped.... wouldn't you know it...
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reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 01:31 PM by KaiBosh
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This thread is a trainwreck and Mitchell is just another mouth with nothing to back up any claims.
WE. NEED. EVIDENCE.
Everything else has been covered, and honestly is a waste of time.
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reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 02:09 PM by Damezthe2nd
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is there anyway to watch this interview in scotland?
thanks
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reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 02:12 PM by Ferengi
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reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 03:49 PM by donhuangenaro
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Originally posted by AntisepticSkeptic
Love and aliens/alien spacecraft are two different things. One is emotion and the other one is physical - at least the 'eyewitnesses' claim that
they are, physical.
So, no. 'LOVE' cannot be measured in the physical sense (meters, pounds etc) though you can measure the associated BrainWave patterns related to the
emotion of 'love'.
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I think if Tesla didn't invent radio transmitter/receiver you probably wouldn't believe in radio waves too (because you can't see them)
the problem here is that you act like you know everything (just like so many arrogant egoistical scientists and their pseudo sceptical 'debunker'
kin)
brainwave patterns of people in love are just an after effects of something you cannot measure: emotion, something that by scientists' (pseudo)logic
shouldn't exist (no physical proof)... the same thing is with aliens or UFOs, the fact that you cannot measure them does not mean that they do not
exist...
so, in fact, aliens, UFOs and love are not so different after all...
sorry that you cannot (and probably will not ever) understand this simple logic
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reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 04:20 PM by Fulcrum29
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Originally posted by Schaden
Originally posted by Fulcrum29
Can someone please state as accurately as possible word for word what Edgar Mitchell stated about Clark Mclelland?
Keven brought up how another NASA employee had come forward with information. Then he mentioned Clark and how he claims to have seen an alien inside
the shuttle's bay from a video camera inside a NASA facility. He asked Edgar Mitchell if he was familiar with the story etc... Mitchell said he's
seen Clark's website. Kevin asked him what he thought. Mitchell said he "didn't put much credence into McClellan's claim". Kevin asked him why
and Mitchell said he'd rather not go into it. And that was the end of it.
hahahaha wow. I knew that guy was bogus but the biggest surprise for me is the fact that I was wondering whether Mclelland is even a real Nasa
ex-employee or not because it's funny how he has this huge categorical history of testimonies about his person from some of the most imminent names
in the field from Walter Cronkite, Sally Ride, Werner von Braun (LOL) etc and yet a cursory google search does not bring up a single reference to
Mclelland in any capacity as pertaining to Nasa OTHER than the hokey website that he's published with his outlandish claims. Literally not a SINGLE
hit result to show that he has at any time had ANYTHING to do with NASA.
So the surprising thing to me is that Edgar Mitchell would simply say that he's looked at his site and doesn't put much credence to his information
so that would APPEAR to me initially to mean that Mitchell is at least acknowledging that Clark Mclelland is in fact a real NASA employee and possibly
that Mitchell has been in contact with him and knows of him etc because one would assume that for obvious reasons were Mclelland to be a complete
phony then Mitchell would respond differently with something along these lines, "Yes I've seen this "Mclelland's" website and I have no idea who
he is or why he's pretending to be a nasa space controller because I've never seen nor heard of him during my tenure at Nasa", ETC.
So that's just really interesting to me however I'm glad that Mitchell has shot down Mclelland's preposterous claims because that guy is really
like a black eye for more serious Ufology and such given the tacky and sensationlist manner in which he presents his information. A mid 90's
hippy/celestial/postmodernist/newage website graphics with a hysteric/sensationlist profuse use of exclamation points after every single sentence
(i.e.: "I have seen the ALIENS!", etc), it's just tacky and would turn off any serious minded person that is new and wants to learn more about all
this by way of Dr. Mitchell's more serious and respected allegations/disclosures.
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reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 04:48 PM by bubbles75
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I beleive both Mithchel and McLelland, unfortunatley mcLelland's claim is too outlandish in the sense that it makes Nasa and the goverment complicit
and the gov probably does not want that. So you can say that you beleive in UFO's and Aliens but you cannot say it as it really is. To all the
skeptics out there, I think you are brain dead mainly because if you do your research probably you will notice that too many people have come out with
very similar claims and many of those people are gov/nasa/military, not to mention the actual photo's and video's. The chances of that are non
existant, it's the same as the claim of mass psychosis...mass what? Now if many people see UFO's or aliens it's mass psychosis and debunkers feel
that it is more appropriate to label many witnesses as ill rather than admit that it IS real...nuf said.
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reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 09:01 PM by Curious_Agnostic
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edit - I appear to be a day late. Just ignore my stupidity.
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