Vice Admiral at the Pentagon in 1997 would add up to probably 150 positions not including TDY Vice Admirals.
Vance

Sad to see how you people almost attack eachother for your own beliefs.

So...some believe, some don't. No point to try to convince one another that you are right.

Be sceptics, but not irretionally so, be a beliver....but..again, not irretionally so.

But no matter what you believe or don't believe, BE AWARE.

It's Vice Admiral (J-2) Thomas Wilson

And to all those who are saying how bad the show was, I think you're acting childish.

I tend to believe Edgar over a J-2 Navy Intelligence Admiral at the Pentagon who has probably been trained in disinformation...

All these guys, celebrities or otherwise, who talk a lot and make more heat than light, are not trustworthy.
Don't waste your time on them.

I wasted my time, geez... I typed up a whole host of questions for mitchell... from the studio light crashing to the van allen radiation belts.
and the show was taped.... wouldn't you know it...

This thread is a trainwreck and Mitchell is just another mouth with nothing to back up any claims.

WE. NEED. EVIDENCE.

Everything else has been covered, and honestly is a waste of time.

is there anyway to watch this interview in scotland?

thanks

Originally posted by AntisepticSkeptic

Love and aliens/alien spacecraft are two different things. One is emotion and the other one is physical - at least the 'eyewitnesses' claim that they are, physical.

So, no. 'LOVE' cannot be measured in the physical sense (meters, pounds etc) though you can measure the associated BrainWave patterns related to the emotion of 'love'.



[edit on 7-8-2008 by AntisepticSkeptic]

I think if Tesla didn't invent radio transmitter/receiver you probably wouldn't believe in radio waves too (because you can't see them)

the problem here is that you act like you know everything (just like so many arrogant egoistical scientists and their pseudo sceptical 'debunker' kin)

brainwave patterns of people in love are just an after effects of something you cannot measure: emotion, something that by scientists' (pseudo)logic shouldn't exist (no physical proof)... the same thing is with aliens or UFOs, the fact that you cannot measure them does not mean that they do not exist...

so, in fact, aliens, UFOs and love are not so different after all...

sorry that you cannot (and probably will not ever) understand this simple logic

Originally posted by Schaden

Originally posted by Fulcrum29
Can someone please state as accurately as possible word for word what Edgar Mitchell stated about Clark Mclelland?

Keven brought up how another NASA employee had come forward with information. Then he mentioned Clark and how he claims to have seen an alien inside the shuttle's bay from a video camera inside a NASA facility. He asked Edgar Mitchell if he was familiar with the story etc... Mitchell said he's seen Clark's website. Kevin asked him what he thought. Mitchell said he "didn't put much credence into McClellan's claim". Kevin asked him why and Mitchell said he'd rather not go into it. And that was the end of it.

hahahaha wow. I knew that guy was bogus but the biggest surprise for me is the fact that I was wondering whether Mclelland is even a real Nasa ex-employee or not because it's funny how he has this huge categorical history of testimonies about his person from some of the most imminent names in the field from Walter Cronkite, Sally Ride, Werner von Braun (LOL) etc and yet a cursory google search does not bring up a single reference to Mclelland in any capacity as pertaining to Nasa OTHER than the hokey website that he's published with his outlandish claims. Literally not a SINGLE hit result to show that he has at any time had ANYTHING to do with NASA.
So the surprising thing to me is that Edgar Mitchell would simply say that he's looked at his site and doesn't put much credence to his information so that would APPEAR to me initially to mean that Mitchell is at least acknowledging that Clark Mclelland is in fact a real NASA employee and possibly that Mitchell has been in contact with him and knows of him etc because one would assume that for obvious reasons were Mclelland to be a complete phony then Mitchell would respond differently with something along these lines, "Yes I've seen this "Mclelland's" website and I have no idea who he is or why he's pretending to be a nasa space controller because I've never seen nor heard of him during my tenure at Nasa", ETC.
So that's just really interesting to me however I'm glad that Mitchell has shot down Mclelland's preposterous claims because that guy is really like a black eye for more serious Ufology and such given the tacky and sensationlist manner in which he presents his information. A mid 90's hippy/celestial/postmodernist/newage website graphics with a hysteric/sensationlist profuse use of exclamation points after every single sentence (i.e.: "I have seen the ALIENS!", etc), it's just tacky and would turn off any serious minded person that is new and wants to learn more about all this by way of Dr. Mitchell's more serious and respected allegations/disclosures.

I beleive both Mithchel and McLelland, unfortunatley mcLelland's claim is too outlandish in the sense that it makes Nasa and the goverment complicit and the gov probably does not want that. So you can say that you beleive in UFO's and Aliens but you cannot say it as it really is. To all the skeptics out there, I think you are brain dead mainly because if you do your research probably you will notice that too many people have come out with very similar claims and many of those people are gov/nasa/military, not to mention the actual photo's and video's. The chances of that are non existant, it's the same as the claim of mass psychosis...mass what? Now if many people see UFO's or aliens it's mass psychosis and debunkers feel that it is more appropriate to label many witnesses as ill rather than admit that it IS real...nuf said.

edit - I appear to be a day late. Just ignore my stupidity.

[edit on 8/7/2008 by Curious_Agnostic]