Rebuttal In Defiance Of The GFL, page 5
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reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 01:28 AM by spacebot
Stared and flagged OP.
If the mods continue to look the other way, ATS IMO will deteriorate so much that probably after a year at least the UFO forum will be totally resembling godlikeproductions. LOL!
I am here because some people do great posts, not for the mods, the mods don't mind to have podcasts interviewing renowned scientists like M.Kaku and let words like "sex in the ufos" been heard repeatedly over and over from the interviewers, like there should be a point. What do you really expect?

Well, do I dare to speak like that about mods? What do I know. I don't visit much, I'm just one of those thousands of anonymous hits, every now and then. Only once in a while I actually take the time to post something. The taste I've been having from ATS lately feels weird. Visitors on occasion, like me don't have time to actually get to the board politics or the mods psychology, characters or traits, they just think, that someone is selling out his/her visitors.
Since many, even in a position of moderating on the internet, as everybody else, can be partially anonymous or even with a faked persona. Since no harm is going to get you, if no one knows who you really are, and you can get to be paid to act like you are for real, for some amount of time, its damn easy buck.
I am not saying that this is happening right here on ATS, but you know.. $hit happens and, we the people, either we are buyers, voters, forum visitors, we always end up being the last ones to know.

I have seen this before. There is a systematic destruction of internet hang outs where brilliant people gather and interesting views are being shared and that is going on from the dawn of the internet. Still for any forum or page they destroy, usually another pops up after a while. The problem is, when the old trusted sources acting as hangouts, fall from the credibility list, most people who used to peek here and there a few times, and that is a tremendous number of people, the actual majority of the sites hits to be exact, don't know where to turn to, to weigh and analyze any news they might consider strange and weird.

Old trusted hangouts, act like beacons. If you put out those beacons until new ones light up, people are forced to sail in the dark. Between those dark hours, a lot of things can be covered up..

Originally posted by Setharoo
Is there a way to treat the ATS like a democracy? We can already flag threads that we enjoy; why can't we vote to remove threads that we don't. Each and every person could have a voice and ever vote would count. There could be "Flags" for good threads and "Flops" for bad threads. If a thread receives more "flops" than "flags" in a predefined time period then the thread will be moved to a secondary category.

I really wonder if the term censorship can apply to an individual thread. Try to think of a thread like a small group of people you invite into your home to have a discussion with. Anyone can show up and give their opinions, but it is my right to kick their tush out the door if they cause trouble.

Just a thought. I am fairly new to ATS, but love the heck out of this place. Keep up the great work!




Starred and flagged.

[edit on 7-8-2008 by spacebot]


reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 03:38 AM by Spectre0o0
reply to post by InfaRedMan



this sight almost lost me with the bacon and eggs for breakfast thread. i have posted some things about serious subjects only to get 1 or 2 comments and then it's gone.
the only thing that i can imagine thats happening here is that the average research level of the respondents is diminishing
4 PAGES ON BACON AND EGGS?
write about the economy or the 9-11 cover up and get ignored.
think about it. what seems to be missing? hmmmmmmm



reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 04:22 AM by anti72
Originally posted by Spectre0o0
reply to
post by InfaRedMan


..4 PAGES ON BACON AND EGGS?
write about the economy or the 9-11 cover up and get ignored.
think about it. what seems to be missing? hmmmmmmm



sad sad

what about a self-censoring point system by members..something like a points poll for every thread.´every point counts´, and after,lets say, 100 negative points, the thread is closed.

another side effect of this, of course, would be a massive rise of ´new members´ every day.

( just kiddin, that wont work, the CIA-friendly posters here would just like to have something like that..)

cheers


reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 05:45 AM by Evisscerator
I am among the majority here in not knowing what the think about some threads here, particularly with the GLF. I don't know if the poster about the GLF visit over Alabama is sincere or just another nut looking for someone to pick them up from the vine.

I will say this in concern for everyone posting and reading here. I do not know if aliens in general exist or not. I've read ufo books since I was about 10 yrs old (I'll be 49 on 9/11) and the subject has fascinated me for years.

I will say that it is total arrogance on our part to believe that WE are alone in the universe, particularly since the newest Mars lander discovered ice/water on Mars. Why do you suppose that we have science projects that continue to look for life out there? I think that deep down, each of us suspects that we are not alone and proof would be icing on the cake.

In recent weeks, the US Government has been moving toward disclosure of whatever they have been hiding from us for over 60 years. I don't buy the arguement that they haven't told us because they don't believe we could handle the truth. On the contrary, I believe we will handle the truth.

The GLF stuff, if true, would certainly mean that we have been judging others harshly and that maybe we should re-examine our positions and beliefs a bit.

What bothered me the most about the GLF posting was that they supposedly picked Alabama as a place to park their craft. Why not right over the white house or Cleveland or Dallas or Denver or Salt Lake City or LA or San Francisco? Frankly, they should just park on the white house lawn for all to see, if true, and get disclosure over with. More folks believe in the Bible than believe that life might exist out in the universe.

I appreciate all of you and your posts on the subject. Thank You !

To the MODS and Owner of this site ..... KUDOS to you. A job well done !!!


reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 06:19 AM by ArMaP
reply to post by Setharoo



The "negative flagging" was tried some time ago, but it was used more as a weapon than as a way of classifying threads, virtual groups of people could "negative flag" the thread if it was from someone they did not liked, and if they were faster than those who really like the thread the thread would look as a bad thread without even having been really read.



reply to post by Th8nker


The thread was not deleted or moved, it's still there, with its 16 flags and 15 stars for the opening post.

Apparently, the mods were right in letting it stay as it was, the result was that the thread is starting to be "submerged" by other, more active, threads, like this one.

Survival of the fittest, some people doubt that it really has been proved in Nature, but it works on ATS.



Lets wait until October 14th...


reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 06:33 AM by Europa733
reply to post by InfaRedMan



Hi OP,

Star & flag from me.

This forum is starting to become a big pile of s$it. Too bad because I like it so please Modo's do your job right and don't let cult freaks post here.

Peace ya all.
Europa aka Buckwild


reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 06:53 AM by ArMaP
reply to post by franspeakfree



There's a "Predictions forum", but it's supposed to be
for the discussion of predictions from modern previously-published clairvoyants (with links), ancient prophecies, and not the random posting of member's predictions

There is also the "Skunk Works" forum, but people may not like to create their threads there. Some have been moved to there, a forum that is presented in this way:

This forum is dedicated to the all-important highly speculative topics that may not be substantiated by many, if any facts and span the spectrum of topics discussed on ATS.

There is also the "Gray Area" forum, recently created.

The Gray Area is a discussion forum that provides a dedicated area for members to post their confessions, disclosures, and related extraordinary personal experiences. Like the highly speculative Skunk Works forum, The Gray Area will tolerate topics that may be unusually hypothetical or unproven for the purpose of vetting the stories of thread-starters by the ATS membership at large.



reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 07:07 AM by InfaRedMan
reply to post by ArMaP



Thanks again ArMaP for posting links to the various other boards and giving detailed explanations of their criteria. Hopefully anyone reading this thread that may have inclinations similar to that of the GFL will post there instead!

Best,
IRM



reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 09:00 AM by Spiramirabilis
Originally posted by InfaRedMan
reply to
post by Cuhail



I understand where your coming from Cuhail, and thanks for piping in with your words of wisdom - but how do you discredit, rebut or disprove a negative?


IRM


you don't discredit, rebut or disprove anything by simply eliminating the source

if you actually feel that is your mission

it seems that you want something to just "go away" because it doesn't agree with your particular sensibilities

you think it's about protecting credibility - protecting your particular area of interest

keeping the standards high enough that the subject matter can be researched in a manner you deem as being serious and responsible

but it's actually a form of intellectual laziness

I know this sounds like a personal attack - but it's not - it's going on everywhere -

even "out there" in the real world - politics, science, religion - pick your poison

people don't want to think

people don't want to deal with anything that doesn't fit into their world view

I can't believe this even has to be discussed here at ATS

what you don't seem to see is - if it were up to anybody else - if there were someone out there who had the power - ATS would just go away

because it's absolute nonsense - the entire site

your serious attention to the ufology is a complete waste of brain cells and electricity to many people - and they'd shut you up in a heartbeat - simply because they don't respect you - and you annoy them

get it?

in a relative universe - your opinion means absolutely nothing to a great many people

my entire time here - I haven't read one single word - except what's been referenced in other threads - about the GFL

it affects me not at all

why is that?


reply posted on 7-8-2008 @ 11:39 AM by InfaRedMan
reply to post by Spiramirabilis



I'm sorry but I cannot follow one word of your disjointed gobbledygook! Perhaps you should put some thought into your words before you post!

BTW - Why use so many carriage returns? Seems you feel by using more space, your words will somehow carry more gravity? Or perhaps it's a cry for attention?

Anyhow, to sum up, I don't care how you feel and I don't care for your brand of logic (if that's what you wish to call it).

And if the entire ATS is complete nonsense - why don't you just go away? Stop wasting your precious brain energy!

If you look like a troll, walk like a troll and quack like a troll.... Get It?

You've lost me! Why is that?


IRM
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