'Please kill me,' pleads man accused in beheading murder, page 6
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reply posted on 6-8-2008 @ 10:05 AM by Solarskye
reply to post by VitriolAndAngst



It's always insanity or the devil made me do it, or GOD, etc... No matter what went on in this mans head he took a life and that's that. I say kill him and then open him up and study the animal. Take his brain and do all you can to figure him out, but to pay tax payers money to study him, feed him and care for him is crazy. There's better ways to spend that money. Even he demands to be killed, that sounds sane to me.



reply posted on 6-8-2008 @ 11:02 AM by bigfatfurrytexan
Here is the problem with this rehashing of a thread: those who knew him personally have claimed that he was mentally ill and refused treatment. The word "Schizophrenic" is used often. In another thread on this subject i linked to an article discussing his mental illness, and gave every reason why i believe him to be mentally ill based on my experience working in a mental hospital for a number of years.

However, that info is not in any thread but one. The rehashing of it in other threads has spread out any information that we may gather on this man into countless different directions, making a gathering of the "whole story" almost impossible.

He was crazy. He isn't an a-hole. He isn't satan. He wasn't under the control of HAARP. He was mentally ill.

I posted this in this thread:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Here is the primary article:

www.winnipegfreepress.com...

Excerpt:


They say Li was clearly battling mental illness, but refused repeated offers to see a doctor and get help.

"I think, in their culture, (the issue of mental illness) is kind of frowned upon," the woman said. She works in the mental health field and said it was obvious Li was struggling.

"He was definitely schizophrenic, probably paranoid schizophrenic," she said. "He needed help but he just wouldn't get it."

There was the constant paranoia, a feeling that he was always being watched and that others might be out to get him.

There were his bizarre, rambling stories that seemed to come out of nowhere.

And there were the unannounced bus trips that would catch his wife by surprise -- such as the time he hopped on a Greyhound headed to The Pas, later explaining that he wanted to look at some land he was thinking about buying.

"I don't think he actually had any money. This was probably just a symptom of his disease," the woman said.


He was crazy, and was prone to taking off on busses without much notice to his loved ones. The violence is part of schizoprenia. I have seen it time and time again, working admissions in a mental hospital with the largest catchment area in the state of Texas.

The "Please kill me" was likley not a lucid statement, either. It likely is another manifestation of his psychosis. Most often when someone has such a severe psychotic break, they have no recollection of their actions. What they remember is a warped, "Alice in Wonderland" version of events that they are hardly attached to on a psychological level.



reply posted on 6-8-2008 @ 11:30 AM by bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by n0tsan3



You did a fine job attacking the poster. Now what about his post?


reply posted on 6-8-2008 @ 12:57 PM by Anonymous ATS
The thing I'm worried about, is not this man and his fate, but the future for others: copy-cats, people who get the wrong idea from this, possible outlet for deperession/rage. There are alot of sick minded people out there... "normal" everyday folk who go home and plan out weird stuff, or even conjure in the mind some strange strange stuff.

For myself, it comes down to the notion that no one is soley a "good person" or a "bad person". Anyone of us could be swayed this way or that. For most, chaos is kept under control by either fear or laziness.

Off topic?

The concern, for me, is that this is just another major blow to the trust we have for one another. We all know now that politicians are untrustworthy as soon as they put on their suit in the morning. No surprise when the president or prime minister pulls another over our eyes. But now, it is another issue of not being able to trust the guy sitting next to you on the bus. Or wondering if the person behind you at the cross walk has had a bad day and whether they are guided by fear or laziness, or if they have the will power and the lack of common concern for fellow man, and might just find some kind of pleasure in slitting the nearest persons throat.

I am not here to propose any solution or even give suggestions. I feel that a deeper question needs to be asked, and therefor, a deeper answer sought. What is this doing to us? What are we doing to ourselves? What are we doing/thinking/saying to/about our neighbors? Does this kind of news make us shutter, yet do we somehow find it strangely entertaining?

Do we all need to look beyond this and examine our own damn lives? Do we as human beings, not feel that perhaps it's time for an effort on our part to advance beyond this kind of thing, and grow mentally, physically, emotionally and spiritually?

Maybe I'm wrong. Who knows?
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