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Regular nuclear weapons tests were undertaken by the USA from 1945 to 1992, and by the Soviets from 1949 to 1990.
Does that mean they continue today?
No, it doesn't. All it means is that those things happened at the time.
I'm not saying that our governments don't stoop to some pretty low stuff - because I am fully aware that they do - but at the same time, as said earlier, we're talking about a supposed massive, ongoing, worldwide coordinated "spraying" program. Its not feasible.
Originally posted by Swingarm
Whats so hard to accept ( aside from the frightening aspect ) about the method?
Do we really have to go through all of that, again? I've already said, as have many others, what is hard to accept about the methods, but lets pick the most straightforward one.
No one, and I really do mean no one has the resources to undertake such a clandestine global operation as is claimed here. Its really that simple.
Originally posted by Swingarm
This thread proves that point. You can disregard the information and call a contrail a contrail. I and growing number of people in this world know better. I'm done with this thread.
Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by Zepherian
Zeph, sorry dude, but you're really stretching there, to include the 'mothball' airplanes!!
Look...airplanes put into the desert.....are there, airframe intact....but all of the good stuff is taken out.
They are basically stripped of all usable parts....as need be. Of course, some parts just cannot be re-used.....because of time limits, or better technology.
I would invite all to examine many, many of the photos taken from orbital cameras, and THEN try to support your claim of 'chemtrails'.
Would it not be safe to assume that a 'view from above' is a far better perspective than the anonymous guy on the ground???
So, 'chemtrail' enthusiasts....please show us examples of HOW this alleged 'spraying' can be seen from orbit.
Thanks.
Originally posted by mantic
Originally posted by mantic
Originally posted by OzWeatherman
reply to post by Clearskies
Yes it is normal. All that is happening is that the air traffic in the USA is extremely heavy, so naturally you will have planes that criss cross each others paths and planes that sit in holding patterns at high altitude, waiting for their time to descend. I posted a link in the original post that shows the density of air travel in one hour, its a phenomenal amount
Could it be reasonable to assume that some of this traffic density is being created by these chem planes?
Yes it is very reasonable. However, if indeed the sky "loosing it's blueness" due to increased traffic, taking "chemtrails" out of the equation. Then would it be safe to assume that we are in deeper doo doo? What is the outcome, what is being done to reverse such trend?
Here are some interesting pictures of the phenomena from the site weatherwars. The proprietor has some interesting theory.
The arrowed location is at the intersection of three contrail lines. It just happens to be the point at which one of the contrails rolls over in an area of strong lateral shear artificially introduced into the sky. We would have never known about it without the chemtrails. With a grid like this you can tell they are hunting scalar activity.
A nice true color image from NASA looking at the back edge of a storm that is just clearing the western Great Lakes states. This is a very dry atmospheric environment in that the passing storm has cleared the area of available moisture for clouds formation plus the inherent stabilization, post storm, leads to very clear skies. So we have many thick contrails that are lasting in an environment that shouldn’t support their visible existence. Hence we have evidence of the contrail markers versus natural contrails. Abundant rippling over Michigan tells us that we have EM energies stimulating the atmosphere and thus the weather makers need to fly the contrails to measure this action and decide whether to employ counter measures as needed. A couple of arrows have been added to point out the thick spreading contrails laid down just along the back edge of this storm, and the interesting dissipation over central Lake Superior marked earlier by the fading three north/south contrails.
In need of more data… a second plane is flown in the vicinity to see if the scalar/gravatonic energy remains present to deform the second contrail.
I just know that something is going on, and I do not believe it is due to increased passenger and freight air traffic
[edit on 7-8-2008 by mantic]
[edit on 7-8-2008 by mantic]