An Attempt to Debunk Chemtrails For Good

Hello People,

I'm not here to argue a point, browbeat, sling names, wax adversarial.
Life is just too short for that, as there are only so many life energy units to spend/expend, and all shots must count.
Diminishing returns must be avoided.
So, a quick single post.

A chemtrail alert system, from Ontario Weather Service, by...

A Meteorologist:

owsweather.com...


My web site on the subject:

neworleanswakeupclub.com...

Take care, all.

Originally posted by neworleanswakeupclub
Hello People,

I'm not here to argue a point, browbeat, sling names, wax adversarial.
Life is just too short for that, as there are only so many life energy units to spend/expend, and all shots must count.
Diminishing returns must be avoided.
So, a quick single post.

A chemtrail alert system, from Ontario Weather Service, by...

A Meteorologist:

owsweather.com...


My web site on the subject:

neworleanswakeupclub.com...

Take care, all.

Thank you for your post and your attitude, it's true what you say

[edit on 28-8-2008 by Swingarm]

reply to post by neworleanswakeupclub


WHO, exactly, is "Kevin Martin"???

See....this is the exact sort of 'pseudoscience' than someone else complained about....!!!

Yet, you accept it, without fail!

What a shame......

reply to post by weedwhacker

WHO, exactly, is "Kevin Martin"???

He's a meteorologist ? You take the credentials of others here without a second thought. This fellow is a fraud ? Seems to me he's making himself known with a first and last name as opposed to a catchy handle with a cool avatar.

reply to post by Swingarm


Yeah....well, you see??? That's my point!

This guy, who has no credibility, except to claim 'chemtrails', so therefore, you jump on him as 'credible'???

Please......

reply to post by weedwhacker

This guy, who has no credibility, except to claim 'chemtrails', so therefore,

You mean then he has credibility to claim chemtrails, right?

Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by Swingarm

 

Yeah....well, you see??? That's my point!

This guy, who has no credibility, except to claim 'chemtrails', so therefore, you jump on him as 'credible'???

Please......

This quote is for Swingarm....because I decline to have any of my posts taken out of context.

Thank you very much!!

Originally posted by Swingarm
reply to post by weedwhacker

 

This guy, who has no credibility, except to claim 'chemtrails', so therefore,

You mean then he has credibility to claim chemtrails, right?

AGAIN.....will try again.....something went wrong the first time.....

reply to post by weedwhacker


Huh ? out of context ? there was nothing significant I left out ? I didn't get an answer to clarify your admission ?

reply to post by Swingarm


Swing, if I'm reading you correctly....and since I'm on 'ignore' with some of your friends, please send them a U2U to clarify....

I have stated, many many times, that the concept of a 'chemtrail' may exist. I just wished to espouse MY OPINION, due to my knowledge and experience, that it was impossible for commercial jets to do this thing.

THAT is the extent of my contribution, to these sorts of threads, because they tend to influence people, who know nothing about commercial jets, in a way that I find offensive to general knowledge, in that they may cause people to THINK that commercial airliners are somehow contributing....

That was my whole point.....we are limited, in a written forum, by the necessity to write, and we lose the nuances of facial expressions, and hand gestures.

reply to post by weedwhacker

Swing, if I'm reading you correctly....and since I'm on 'ignore' with some of your friends, please send them a U2U to clarify....

??

That was my whole point.....we are limited, in a written forum, by the necessity to write, and we lose the nuances of facial expressions, and hand gestures.

I disagree, It sounds like your saying you can normally intimidate people who disagree with you, no ? There is every opportunity to articulate your point at your leisure with no heated face to face debates (thought I'd add a hand gesture too.)




[edit on 28-8-2008 by Swingarm]

I am a bit suspicious about this site after checking Kevin Smiths biography on the site. It says he has a meteorology BS, but it doesnt say where it was obtained nor does it go further into his credentials. However, the strange thing is, it goes into his grade school and high school education.

He has never been a proffesional forecaster which means he is not a meteorologist. Meteorologists here are required to go through a years extra training, whether they have a degree in meteorology or not, due to the specialisation of the area. So in my opinion he is only a meteorologist in his own eyes. Plus as he states below, the reports are from second party information, they are described as cloud seeding (which is known to occur and occurs at a lot lower altitudes) and he says, he is probably the only "meteorologist" to believe in this.

Just some things to take into account with this guy

The reports are gathered through second party air force information, and also the knowledge I've gathered being a meteorologist in patterns they spray in and around.
I, Kevin Martin, am probably the ONLY meteorologist that believes the trails exist.

reply to post by OzWeatherman


Oz, I know you wouldn't / shouldn't prove your own credentials for privacy reasons. However we really don't know how qualified you are either. I'm not saying your not, but I think you get the point.

[edit on 28-8-2008 by Swingarm]

Originally posted by Swingarm
reply to post by OzWeatherman

 

Oz, I know you wouldn't / shouldn't prove your own credentials for privacy reasons. However we really don't know how qualified you are either. I'm not saying your not, but I think you get the point.

[edit on 28-8-2008 by Swingarm]

I know, but I have repeatedly offered to U2U my work email, I provide my facebook address on my profile and have offered people in my own country my direct work phone number, but nobody will take me up on the offer.

These are the only things I can provide to prove my credentials, and its also an attempt to show that I have nothing to hide

reply to post by OzWeatherman


I took the liberty of alerting Kevin to this thread and invited him to respond. Lets hope he will.

Originally posted by Swingarm
reply to post by OzWeatherman

 

I took the liberty of alerting Kevin to this thread and invited him to respond. Lets hope he will.

Good idea Swingarm

Maybe he will become a regular on the website. He sounds like a pretty smart guy

I have a weather website and forum. I issue weather forecasts. But no-one listens to me .......

reply to post by Swingarm


Swingarm, I'd also like to participate....but I don't wish to reveal my identity....

I would think that much of what I've contributed to various threads would be enough.

I had an idea, expressed to the Three Amigos...but it was on another thread, had to do with 9/11

Mostly, it involved a re-creation, in a Simulator....but it would be expensive, I just thought it would be fun...

The concept involves being able to hit one of the WTC Towers.

I just realized this is off-topic....for this thread.

But to Swing back....I could, perhaps, show my aviaton creds if I could fly a Simulator.....and kill two birds at once.

reply to post by weedwhacker


I don't question your creds, But as I've said before, Within the scope of chemtrails your not much more credible than any other person here. Besides, Many pilots know chemtrails are real, so once again it's back and forth anyway.

reply to post by Essan


Essan, your credibility would increase allot if you didn't paint yourself as someone who belittles so much. Just look at your sig, see what I mean? Your responses often have the same tone to them. Anyway the point is there are meteorologist who believe chemtrails exist. Kevin sounds like he has the ability to think for himself.